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In my opinion, having a single port that prevents one from charging the Mac while making use of the port for transfer purposes (outside of purchasing an adapter) is a big mistake.

yeah I think they should've done at least two ports or enabled the dongle to have two ports and enable pass through charging... how do you connect this thing to a big monitor? Don't get me wrong I still want this machine. but yeah...
 
The only thing I don't understand about this new product is the name. Why call it a Macbook if it's thinner and lighter than the MacBook Air? Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of the Air line? Maybe this mean we will see and even lighter and smaller Air or maybe they'll phase it out completely.
 
The only thing I don't understand about this new product is the name. Why call it a Macbook if it's thinner and lighter than the MacBook Air? Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of the Air line? Maybe this mean we will see and even lighter and smaller Air or maybe they'll phase it out completely.

The 'Air' branding was never meant to stick, it was more of a sub-name while Apple transitioned products over a few years. 'Air' will eventually drop altogether.

MacBook Air --> MacBook
iPad Air --> iPad

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yeah I think they should've done at least two ports or enabled the dongle to have two ports and enable pass through charging... how do you connect this thing to a big monitor? Don't get me wrong I still want this machine. but yeah...

Why two ports? The average target user for this product will not have a separate monitor, will not have an external USB drive (time capsule instead), will not plug their iphone in (sync over wifi instead), and so on...

Apple is continuing to push their 'cut-the-cable' initiative by making only one port, which most people (sooner or later) will only really use for charging.

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So how do I connect a peripheral and charge at the same time? Even with the dongle I don't see how this will work.

Think about what you're asking and what happened in the past.

When the macbook air first came out, did you ask "So how am I going to watch my DVDs?"

Apple is thinking about their 'now', which is a lot of user's 'Future'
 
Thunderbolt is not Apple's, but Intel's tech. Apple helped develop it. The Lightning connector is Apple's.

Apple is the reason it ever came to market.

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The HDMI, USB3.1, USB-C adapter only supports 1080p. It should be HDMI 1.4 so we can at least get 1440p or higher out of the unit. If not, then put a display port instead of HDMI on that breakout cable. This makes docking the unit at home annoying.

Are you positive? they should have one with display port, this would fix the problem.
 
Please stop defending Apple. Apple is playing their customers for a fool. The iSight camera from the macbook air is 1.3mp. I wouldn't be surprise if it's the same camera as on the iPhone and iPad. The new MacBooks video card is pushing 2304x1440 to the screen.

I think it's more than they couldn't fit a higher quality camera in the bezel which is incredibly thin.

Not defending, but it seems more like a design trade off.

I don't think 720p vs 480p is going to sway buyers anyway.
 
Do we know anything about the charger that the new MacBook comes with? On Apple's website, it says "power adapter with cable management system" - could that mean the charger may have at least a built in USB port or something?

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On Apple's website, it says "power adapter with cable management system" - could that mean the charger may have at least a built in USB port or something?

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I think it probably just means the little plastic 'ears' that pop out to let you wrap up the cable when not in use. :confused:

Although I think the USB-C lead may be detachable (like the iPad charger).
 
Apple takes a major step back in the elimination of MagSafe.

I don't think they are eliminating magsafe completely. I believe they will simply move the magnetic coupling away from the USB-C connector. It could be either on the outlet unit, in the middle of the cable or just a few millimetres (embrace metric!) away from the USB connector.

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Apple is thinking about their 'now', which is a lot of user's 'Future'
I'd rather not live in this so called Future. I honestly think that 480p cameras will suck big time. Can I stay in the present with 1080p webcams?
 
Let’s take the existing maxed out 11” Air and improve it a-la Jony style.

-Replace the 11.6 inch with 12 inch retina display.
-Replace the 2.2 GHz Dual-Core intel I7 with 1.3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core M processor.
-Since the existing fan hardly comes on and mostly inaudible, eliminate the fan.
-Get rid of 2 USB3 and 1 Thunderbolt port replace it with a single USB-C port.
-Replace the existing keyboard keys with shorter travel keys.
-Get rid of the mechanical switch and replace it with a buzzing feedback on the trackpad.
-Keep all dimensions practically the same.
-Preserve the existing battery life.
-Drop the weight by a "whopping" 16 grams (0.35 pounds).
-Render it impossible to connect to a Thunderbolt Cinema Display or any other Thunderbolt device.
-Make carrying a dongle necessary to connect to nearly every existing USB-A peripheral and charge extra for the dongle.
-Price it so that the Maxed out 11” Air is $1,649 and the new maxed out Macbook is 1,599. (without the dongle!)
-Make it look gorgeous and colourful and present it with a hoopla at the Keynote for people to applaud and cheer for it and call this a progress.

Excuse me but for the weight and size I am not seeing any benefit, if portability is the main issue here. Yet I lost the connection to my existing Cinema Display, lost the Magsafe adapter, lost serious CPU power, gained a dongle to carry around and all for a measly 16 grams in weight, Gold colour and retina display?

Somehow I’m not convinced. I’ll wait for the next generation.

this is how the first gen macbook air looked , 1 usb , 1 headphone jack.

they dident sell much until the second revision.
 
One day, Apple will design a laptop with no screen, all in the name of making it thin. So you'll have a super thin keyboard, with dongles to attach a screen, if you ever have need for a screen.
 
What a waste of time and money MagSafe 2 turned out to be - fitted to laptops that never needed the extra thinness and now dumped in favour of USB-C.
 
One day, Apple will design a laptop with no screen, all in the name of making it thin. So you'll have a super thin keyboard, with dongles to attach a screen, if you ever have need for a screen.

ROTFLMAO and there will be always some stating that this is the future and the rest don't understand the market as well as the real needs.
 
Why two ports? The average target user for this product will not have a separate monitor, will not have an external USB drive (time capsule instead), will not plug their iphone in (sync over wifi instead), and so on...

Apple is continuing to push their 'cut-the-cable' initiative by making only one port, which most people (sooner or later) will only really use for charging.

Why not two ports? Seriously...

The only reason I can see is to prioritize headphone jack over a second port. I, for one, would rather have a second USB-C port.

It's amusing to see some people try and justify the design compromises based on the idea that Apple has a 'target' user for this product. But, let's be honest here. Within 12-18 months, the MacBook Air will probably be dropped and the (new) MacBook will be priced in it's slot. Thus, the Apple notebook offerings will be MacBook or MacBook Pro, as it was in the past. This MacBook will be a bummer for a lot of consumers who need physical connectivity. Adding a second USB-C port would at least make the product more usable.

Interestingly, for a presentation that touted wireless headsets, they sure made the effort to keep a headphone jack on there, in lieu of providing more options for their customers.
 
The HDMI, USB3.1, USB-C adapter only supports 1080p. It should be HDMI 1.4 so we can at least get 1440p or higher out of the unit. If not, then put a display port instead of HDMI on that breakout cable. This makes docking the unit at home annoying.

Hmm. You're right. How does that square with the tech spec "Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 3840 by 2160 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors"

To me this means we are waiting for another thunderbolt display or another dongle. A 4K display + hub that is not ready for prime time.
 
My 2011 13-inch unibody Macbook Pro has Thunderbolt, Firewire and 2 x USB ports, not to mention 1Gb wired ethernet, optical drive, and SD card reader.


Yes, its a MacBook Pro.
None of the unibody MacBooks (2008 MacBook, and later polycarbonate model) had it, nor did air have it...

Thunderbolt is overkill for 99% of user, an average laptop user never connects anything, and apple is obviously one by one killing of wires and physical media.
I don't know why is everyone acting so surprised, they were always the first to drop VGA, DVI, etc etc from their laptops, even Pro-moniker machines.

Ethernet? Please. :)

Average MacRumors user is not an average computer user, average computer user is my sister who never visited a computer related forum in her life and rarely connects anything except charger to it (since most of the usb dongles have been obsolete by cloud-based sharing), average computer user is my mother, who connects speakers, keyboard, and mouse (because she still has the old wired keyboard), etc, and most of those are fine with just one port, or in worst case, having to buy that 79$ dongle (which imo should be included for free with the laptop).

Average computer user likes to throw their laptop in a sleeve and purse/briefcase and don't bother if they forget the charger.

It's a MacBook. It's not even AIR, let alone Pro.

before we all go up in arms, lets see what they do with the Pro line.
 
This computer HAS TO HAVE a proper docking station made by apple or some really good 3rd part.... if not I think this computer is DOA!
 
Why not two ports? Seriously...

The only reason I can see is to prioritize headphone jack over a second port. I, for one, would rather have a second USB-C port.

It's amusing to see some people try and justify the design compromises based on the idea that Apple has a 'target' user for this product. But, let's be honest here. Within 12-18 months, the MacBook Air will probably be dropped and the (new) MacBook will be priced in it's slot. Thus, the Apple notebook offerings will be MacBook or MacBook Pro, as it was in the past. This MacBook will be a bummer for a lot of consumers who need physical connectivity. Adding a second USB-C port would at least make the product more usable.

Interestingly, for a presentation that touted wireless headsets, they sure made the effort to keep a headphone jack on there, in lieu of providing more options for their customers.

Apple still ships devices exclusively with wired headphones, and if you look around at coffee shops and airports, libraries, etc. almost everyone has their headphones plugged in, and nothing else. This was the right call.

This computer HAS TO HAVE a proper docking station made by apple or some really good 3rd part.... if not I think this computer is DOA!

The good news is that being usb-c the door is wide open for anyone to make a dock. I expect we will see a lot of them in short order. Docking has never been a priority for Apple, so I wouldn't hold my breath for them to make one.
 
Yes, its a MacBook Pro.
None of the unibody MacBooks (2008 MacBook, and later polycarbonate model) had it, nor did air have it...

Thunderbolt is overkill for 99% of user, an average laptop user never connects anything, and apple is obviously one by one killing of wires and physical media.
I don't know why is everyone acting so surprised, they were always the first to drop VGA, DVI, etc etc from their laptops, even Pro-moniker machines.

Ethernet? Please. :)

Average MacRumors user is not an average computer user, average computer user is my sister who never visited a computer related forum in her life and rarely connects anything except charger to it (since most of the usb dongles have been obsolete by cloud-based sharing), average computer user is my mother, who connects speakers, keyboard, and mouse (because she still has the old wired keyboard), etc, and most of those are fine with just one port, or in worst case, having to buy that 79$ dongle (which imo should be included for free with the laptop).

Average computer user likes to throw their laptop in a sleeve and purse/briefcase and don't bother if they forget the charger.

It's a MacBook. It's not even AIR, let alone Pro.

before we all go up in arms, lets see what they do with the Pro line.

all good and all but its awfully expensive for the very minimal needs of the "average" computer user.

under the new definition i expect my mom is considered a power user. wired keyboard and external cd drive to rip music.
 
That looks nice, except a second port can't fit there. Remember that all of the MacBooks so far have had space to the left and right of the keyboards. This machine, with its edge to edge keyboard only has space at the top, above the keyboard, between the keyboard and back of the case.

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Oh dear, then you'd have to place the second typeC in front of keyboard. How ugly! Even in golden!
 
Apple still ships devices exclusively with wired headphones, and if you look around at coffee shops and airports, libraries, etc. almost everyone has their headphones plugged in, and nothing else. This was the right call.

I understand the point and Apple's reasoning. They could just as easily put usb-c on the right hand side and included a usb-to-3.5mm adapter.

The good news is that being usb-c the door is wide open for anyone to make a dock. I expect we will see a lot of them in short order. Docking has never been a priority for Apple, so I wouldn't hold my breath for them to make one.

Yes, that's definitely going to be necessary for people who would like to use this in an environment with external monitor, wired connection for file shares, etc.

I like the overall design of the new MacBook, I just want a tad bit more functionality for the average user.
 
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