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RIM has long had Blackberries syncing with iTunes via Apple's more official method (the XML database) for supporting 3rd-party access to your music library.

Palm can do the same. Instead they cut corners and made their customers be the guinea pigs in a (technologically clever) experiment they knew from the start was likely to fail.

All of which is fairly harmless in the end especially if you're not a Palm user. But it's a very weird choice for them to have made.

Testing the waters against Apple has become a popular pastime among technnological underachievers. If you can't beat 'em, mess with their IP.
 
I side with Apple, doesn't anyone respect proprietary software anymore. They spent the money to acquire iTunes, develop it, and deal with the record companies to get the music.
 
Apple doesn't play well with others. :cool:

Oh well.

Actually the decision went they OTHER way: Palm is the one who didn't play by the USB standards.

Palm can access iTunes, just as RIM does. Palm went about the wrong way, when a RIGHT way always existed (known as "iTunes Music Library.xml").
 
Actually the decision went they OTHER way: Palm is the one who didn't play by the USB standards.

Palm can access iTunes, just as RIM does. Palm went about the wrong way, when a RIGHT way always existed (known as "iTunes Music Library.xml").

This.

WTG USB-IF, smack Palm like a bad kid. :)
 
Testing the waters against Apple has become a popular pastime among technnological underachievers. If you can't beat 'em, mess with their IP.

or in most cases, just buy out the IP, and yes apple is just as guilty read:ipod
 
And less interoperability for consumers. That blows.

I like the idea of being able to sync iTunes with whatever device I own.

no no no... les interoperability for palm users because they bought a device that yada yada yada... and palm yada yada... got it?

since you want to sync with iTunes with any device, hack away... your devices, your computers, your time, your money, your freedom to do so.
 
why didn't they just use isync like everyone else? Thats what its there for!
 
While "legally" technically correct, it's disappointing that the USB-IF didn't take this opportunity to scold Apple for not behaving in the spirit of why the USB spec was created in the first place.

This may just be the first round where USB device makers lock out their devices to $$$$ from the highest bidder. Big hint to Microsoft, if they ever want to knock Apple out of the computer industry.
 
Can't believe Palm had the audacity to complain about Apple when they were hacking Apple's stuff. FAIL. It's obvious not many people want or care about Pre which is why Palm is so insecure about making their own software. :rolleyes: They need a brand name with proven technology to ponder off that crap of a phone.
 
While "legally" technically correct, it's disappointing that the USB-IF didn't take this opportunity to scold Apple for not behaving in the spirit of why the USB spec was created in the first place.

This may just be the first round where USB device makers lock out their devices to $$$$ from the highest bidder. Big hint to Microsoft, if they ever want to knock Apple out of the computer industry.

Uh, they do let anyone they want have access the itunes , via isync. Theres no reason they have to allow direct access to itunes.
 
Palm Wins Again!

Folks, this is yet another feeble attempt by Palm to keep the Pre from fading into obscurity by keeping the buzz about their product alive in the tech blog world.

Palm has probably had their own sync client in the lab the whole time. But of course if they release it, it would take about a week for the world to forget that the Pre exists. Creating controversy keeps people talking about them and the Pre.

Remember:

Good News => Good News
Bad news => Good News
No News => Bad News

I think Palm has met its goal once again.
 
Sets Dangerous Precedent

I'm sympathetic to Apple to keep iTunes closed, but blocking someone from emulating vendor IDs really sets a dangerous precedent.

PCI devices also use Vendor IDs (in fact this is where they started). Applications like VMware and Parallels *have* to emulate Vendor IDs for PCI devices they emulate (like north/south bridges). Many other applications and devices work by emulating existing devices for backward compatibility.

Blocking this kind of emulation seems to me a very dubious action. Good for Apple perhaps but very bad for users.
 
I'm sympathetic to Apple to keep iTunes closed, but blocking someone from emulating vendor IDs really sets a dangerous precedent.

PCI devices also use Vendor IDs (in fact this is where they started). Applications like VMware and Parallels *have* to emulate Vendor IDs for PCI devices they emulate (like north/south bridges). Many other applications and devices work by emulating existing devices for backward compatibility.

Blocking this kind of emulation seems to me a very dubious action. Good for Apple perhaps but very bad for users.

Do they do it with permission.....
 
I'm really sad about this. I've been a loyal Palm user since 2001 to 2008, when I gave up when I clearly saw that their amazing OS and PDA line were dying in agony. I could not stand that. Maybe someone remember the Foleo announcement, in the summer 2007. That was, according to Palm, the next step of portability, the Treo companion, etc. About a month later, right before the supposed launch, the project was canceled. That was the last nail in the coffin. Actually, it wasn't: I think the Palm Pre, and the incapacity to create a software to sync with, is definitively the last nail.
Palm is now a sort of zombie, trying to steal the last breath of oxygen from itunes.
 
Maybe someone remember the Foleo announcement, in the summer 2007. That was, according to Palm, the next step of portability, the Treo companion, etc. About a month later, right before the supposed launch, the project was canceled.
To be fair they weren't actually too far off with the Foleo. Although it was critically slapped down it wasn't long after that netbooks took off. There certainly was a market there that many (including palm in the end) didn't appreciate.
 
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