Used iOS 6 yesterday

joejoejoe

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And was amazed at how fast and clean the experience was.

Look, I love iOS 7 and it's philosophy, and I'm not a hater, but it does irk me that an older OS opened and closed apps more quickly, went into multitasking more quickly and efficiently, and all around felt less cumbersome.

Have you ever tried pulling up control center while reading to change brightness? I end up always initiating a page turn when I never meant to.

Opening any app will show me an old screen shot of the app while it takes a minute to refresh, causing confusion and compounding the feeling that this is a slow OS.

And I know there are many others on these threads that have complained about the screen's unresponsiveness while we way for animations to settle after unlocking/opening an app.

I know the major argument is that half a second here and there doesn't make a difference, but going from using a device that seems lethargic to using one that feels instant makes a world of difference in daily use IMO.

Design changes aside (I love the look of iOS 7, more or less)... how did they let the slowing of the OS occur after giving us one that was so instant and solid?
 

Tyler23

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And was amazed at how fast and clean the experience was.

Look, I love iOS 7 and it's philosophy, and I'm not a hater, but it does irk me that an older OS opened and closed apps more quickly, went into multitasking more quickly and efficiently, and all around felt less cumbersome.

Have you ever tried pulling up control center while reading to change brightness? I end up always initiating a page turn when I never meant to.

Opening any app will show me an old screen shot of the app while it takes a minute to refresh, causing confusion and compounding the feeling that this is a slow OS.

And I know there are many others on these threads that have complained about the screen's unresponsiveness while we way for animations to settle after unlocking/opening an app.

I know the major argument is that half a second here and there doesn't make a difference, but going from using a device that seems lethargic to using one that feels instant makes a world of difference in daily use IMO.

Design changes aside (I love the look of iOS 7, more or less)... how did they let the slowing of the OS occur after giving us one that was so instant and solid?
Most reports indicate that the upcoming 7.1 release greatly speeds up the animations and OS as a whole.
 

petvas

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Yes, 7.1 will improve things a lot, but still the folder open animation is badly designed, I believe. The contents of a folder take central stage and move to the center of the screen. This causes an unnatural move of your fingers. Imagine having a folder on the lower left or right corner of the screen. Tapping on it will open the folder and the contents will be animated to the centre of the screen. Your fingers were positioned on the lower left of the screen before tapping, and suddenly you need to move them towards the centre. This is tiresome and doesn't make any sense, even if it is a nice animation. In iOS 6 opening folders is fast and intuitive, much better.
Apart from that I prefer ios 7 and believe it is a step in the right direction, even if it is a very unstable OS. At least 7.1 solves the crashing...
 

dannyyankou

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.







And there's room for improvement, but I'm sure many more visual changes will come with iOS 8, so it's not the end of the world.
 

Armen

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And was amazed at how fast and clean the experience was.

Look, I love iOS 7 and it's philosophy, and I'm not a hater, but it does irk me that an older OS opened and closed apps more quickly, went into multitasking more quickly and efficiently, and all around felt less cumbersome.

Have you ever tried pulling up control center while reading to change brightness? I end up always initiating a page turn when I never meant to.

Opening any app will show me an old screen shot of the app while it takes a minute to refresh, causing confusion and compounding the feeling that this is a slow OS.

And I know there are many others on these threads that have complained about the screen's unresponsiveness while we way for animations to settle after unlocking/opening an app.

I know the major argument is that half a second here and there doesn't make a difference, but going from using a device that seems lethargic to using one that feels instant makes a world of difference in daily use IMO.

Design changes aside (I love the look of iOS 7, more or less)... how did they let the slowing of the OS occur after giving us one that was so instant and solid?
iOS7 isn't slow because the operating system is clunky. It's slow because Apple set the animation speeds that way. I'm running 7.0.4 and with 1 jailbreak tweak every animation (including folders) is 2X as fast.
 

SomeGuyDude

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Most reports indicate that the upcoming 7.1 release greatly speeds up the animations and OS as a whole.
That's actually the funny thing. Apple slowed down the animations a tad and everyone acts like the OS itself is unresponsive. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

QuarterSwede

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Does iOS 6 have shortcuts to, arguably, the most used system settings like in Control Center? Or more powerful API's (ex. Background Fetch and Remote Notifications)? That's called a fact. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word experience but instead interface/system. That's more what I meant.
 

ionjohn

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.

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And there's room for improvement, but I'm sure many more visual changes will come with iOS 8, so it's not the end of the world.
iOS 7 is beautiful but some things really are ugly, like the dock, I mean, what the hell? It's a step back to ios 1 2 3, I hate it, they should've used the mountain lion dock. I'm so eager to see iOS 8 in june.
 

sunking101

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Two camps here, those who prefer performance and those who prefer looks. Performance matters above all else for me and hopefully Apple will address this ASAP.
 

SomeGuyDude

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.

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And there's room for improvement, but I'm sure many more visual changes will come with iOS 8, so it's not the end of the world.
Man. That comparison of the SMS is just mindblowing. I forgot how plasticky and cheap that looked before.
 

sracer

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.



And there's room for improvement, but I'm sure many more visual changes will come with iOS 8, so it's not the end of the world.
iOS 7 is SO clean and modern that the pertinent information is lost on the screen. So much of iOS 7 is like that. There is so much room for improvement on what was introduced in iOS 7 that that Apple probably already has a roadmap for what the next 5 version of iOS will look like.

"There's so much room for improvement things can only get better". :confused:
 

joejoejoe

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Most reports indicate that the upcoming 7.1 release greatly speeds up the animations and OS as a whole.
yes but certain elements like the old screenshots of apps when you're opening them, the unresponsiveness of the screen after unlock, the misinterpretation of swiping when opening control center in a full screen app--all these issues remain. it's not just about animation speeds.

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.

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And there's room for improvement, but I'm sure many more visual changes will come with iOS 8, so it's not the end of the world.
yeah man you may have missed it in my original post, i agree that the design is more modern and beautiful but this thread isn't about the design, it's about usability, performance, power, ergonomics, etc.
 

gaanee

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Until I upgraded to 5s I was fine with ios6. Initially ios7 looked like too much splash of color but after using it for a while now its much more appealing. I still have old 3gs which now serves as an ipod, but the ios6 looks dull especially with all the skeuomorphism with linen cloth. It was much needed change for iphone.
 

dannyyankou

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yes but certain elements like the old screenshots of apps when you're opening them, the unresponsiveness of the screen after unlock, the misinterpretation of swiping when opening control center in a full screen app--all these issues remain. it's not just about animation speeds.

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yeah man you may have missed it in my original post, i agree that the design is more modern and beautiful but this thread isn't about the design, it's about usability, performance, power, ergonomics, etc.
Yes, and I said the performance is being fixed (7.1 is fast) and that there's room for improvement, which will likely happen in iOS 8. I just posted the images so people would get the big picture of where iOS 7 is headed in. With any major OS overhaul, there are problems and they are fixed.
 

0000757

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Using iOS 6 is literally impossible for me at this point.

Not only is it horribly ugly in comparison, all the features I've come to rely on are iOS 7 features!
 

Bawstun

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iOS 7 is SO clean and modern that the pertinent information is lost on the screen. So much of iOS 7 is like that. There is so much room for improvement on what was introduced in iOS 7 that that Apple probably already has a roadmap for what the next 5 version of iOS will look like.

"There's so much room for improvement things can only get better". :confused:
Actually, this is true. They removed so many graphical elements that in certain apps (and the OS in general), your eyes kind of have to 'search' for the information. Whereas before it would pop out at you and stand out, because of the skewmorphism. It's entirely noticeable in the screenshot you quoted, with the weather. On the left, your eyes are drawn to the information you're looking for. On the right, your eyes kind of go all over the place searching for it, for lack of borders, the light font on the light background, etc.
 

MacDevil7334

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They've been improving ios 7 ever since it's release, but once you get past the animations (which are getting fixed), just look at how much more modern and clean iOS 7 is.
Ok, I agree that iOS 7 is "modern" in that flat design is really trendy right now. And I agree that it is "clean" in that it has tons of empty, wasted space. But, these things do not make iOS 7 inherently "better" than what came before. And I have yet to see a single convincing argument to the contrary.

But, since you posted the pictures, let me point out a few ways iOS 7's "awesome" design is a real step backward.

Ok, so in iOS 6 we had a weather widget that showed the current temperature in large, easy to read font and the current conditions were shown with a large icon that allowed you tell the weather at a glance. A single swipe then got you a 6 day forecast. In iOS 7, everything is presented as a paragraph of text in small font that you have to read. Nothing is easy to glean at a glance and there is no long term forecast. My favorite part though is that is DOESN'T EVEN ALWAYS TELL YOU THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. Sometimes it will tell you what the high WAS. Why would I want to know that three hours later? Inconsistent information that is not easily read at a glance seems like a step backward to me.

Also, the calendar has regressed. In iOS 6, your upcoming events were presented in a succinct list. Now? It's shown as a calendar that takes up a TON of space to provide you with not that much information. The worst part is that the space is still taken up even if you have nothing on your calendar. Good call Apple.

Ok, let's start at the top. In iOS 6, the navigation was easily recognizable as, well, a navigation bar. It was a different color than your content. It was a different shape, and buttons looked like freakin' buttons. In iOS 7, the navigation bar is a flat, translucent area that is almost always white (because the background of most content is white). It is separated from the content area by the thinnest of grey lines. The title of the page is now plain black text that is only slightly bolder than the text found in the body of an email. And then there are the new "buttons" in iOS 7. The borders are gone because clearly borders are for sissies who hate change and are stuck in the past. Why on earth would you want to be able to identify tappable elements in the UI at a glance? The best part is that Apple also reduced the size of the tappable areas around buttons, which are now just the size of the text. Anyone remember Steve Jobs's joke about having to whittle down your finger tips to a point? Doesn't seem so funny now.

Next, we have the text bubbles. I'll grant you that removing the gloss was probably a good move. I always thought the effect looked nice, but that's just my opinion and it probably wasn't necessary. But I don't find the thin fonts easier to read. This I think is a personal preference kind of thing though.

Finally, the keyboard. In iOS 6, you had keys that clearly stood out because they were presented on a dark background. The letters on the keys were bolder and easier to read. In iOS 7, you have white keys on an ever-so-slightly darker grey background. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since low contrast seems to be the "in" thing in design these days and is absolutely rampant in iOS 7. But I don't get how a flat, low contrast keyboard is inherently better than a high contrast keyboard with some depth to the keys.

Well we did get rid of the unnecessary black space from iOS 6. But the dynamic backgrounds in iOS 7 lead to another low contrast situation. This is especially problematic when you have a cloudy day, where you get white text on a light grey background. Are you seriously telling me that is an improvement over the static background in iOS 6 that always made the text easy to read? Also, all the apostles of iOS 7 love to rail against how terrible skeuomorphism is. But, I'd just like to point out that the iOS 7 weather app is actually MORE skeuomorphic since the backgrounds are now made to look like real-world weather effects. I thought the whole argument behind iOS 7 is that we didn't need the app to actually look like rain to know it's raining outside. Did I miss something?

Ok well we get a preview of the open app. That's definitely an improvement. But, it comes at the cost of fewer open apps on the screen at a time. Way more scrolling now. It would have been nice if Apple had done something closer to Expose on OS X.

I agree Siri's new look is an improvement. iOS 7 isn't a total step backward!
 

AHDuke99

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I really can't stand iOS 7. It takes me twice as long to do things, and the apps have been gutted of their features for the sake of aesthetics. I wish I could go back to iOS 6 on my iPhone 5 nearly every day.

I hear 7.1 fixes those problems, so I'll wait and see before making final judgment.
 

0000757

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Can you use OS X Mavericks which still has a iOS 6-like UI theme?
Mavericks isn't very iOS 6 like. There's no fake felt/fake leather/fake wood/fake linen etc. (except in Game Center, which I *never* use, and messages which is an eyesore but I power through it or i just go back to messages on my iPhone)

Mac OS has never felt really like iOS to me, at least not since Lion. It seems to be more unique. I mean they took out most of the obnoxious aqua elements and slimmed then down, and by the time we've gotten to Mavericks it more embraces iOS 7 similarity while still keeping the mac familiar face

For example, the "grey suble brushed metal look" that they've had since like 10.7 doesn't remind me of iOS 6. The only thing that does is the icons for stock apps actually.
 
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