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I had a dream last night that I met Steve Jobs. He was running iOS 6 on his phone, and he said "they destroyed the iPhone with iOS 7". I disagreed, but shared a laugh with him over the Safari icon.

Remember, this is a dream.

Also, he was running it on a 5s, so I asked him how that worked, and he admitted to jailbreaking.

Then I woke up and made breakfast. The end. (I'm being serious)
 
I had a dream last night that I met Steve Jobs. He was running iOS 6 on his phone, and he said "they destroyed the iPhone with iOS 7". I disagreed, but shared a laugh with him over the Safari icon.

Remember, this is a dream.

Also, he was running it on a 5s, so I asked him how that worked, and he admitted to jailbreaking.

Then I woke up and made breakfast. The end. (I'm being serious)

Maybe it's time for you to go see someone :)
 
iOS 7 is SO clean and modern that the pertinent information is lost on the screen. So much of iOS 7 is like that. There is so much room for improvement on what was introduced in iOS 7 that that Apple probably already has a roadmap for what the next 5 version of iOS will look like.

"There's so much room for improvement things can only get better". :confused:

That's why I use the Yahoo weather app over the stock weather app. iOS7 style with photos and better legibility.
 

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That's why I use the Yahoo weather app over the stock weather app. iOS7 style with photos and better legibility.

I hope Yahoo doesn't begin to charge for their waether app. It's that good. I have it installed on all my android and iOS devices.
 
I've been a fan of iOS 7 ever since I installed it after WWDC. That being said, on older devices, iOS 6 does run faster. My iPhone 4S (before I sold it) didn't much care for the new OS, but the iPhone 5 runs it OK. My 5s is an absolute stud when it comes to performance though, so I'm a bit spoiled. :cool: I always feel like I'm taking a step back when I use anything older. And using iOS 6 (or older) is mighty painful too.
 
Apple should have just improved and 'cleaned' iOS 6 opposed to let a play school loose on designing iOS 7
 
Apple should have just improved and 'cleaned' iOS 6 opposed to let a play school loose on designing iOS 7
In a sense weren't they already doing that for about 6 versions when it came to iOS 6?
 
In a sense weren't they already doing that for about 6 versions when it came to iOS 6?


True.
A lot of companies try to refresh things for the sake of sales and hype and it's for the wrong reason if it's purely to look likely they are innovating. It looks like Apple tried the same with ios 7, similar to Microsoft realising the tiled interface and the putting back the start button in later updates.

IOS 7 looks like Starfox from the Nintendo super famicom; but buzz but a bunch of lifeless flat polygons :)
 
Apple should have just improved and 'cleaned' iOS 6 opposed to let a play school loose on designing iOS 7

In a sense weren't they already doing that for about 6 versions when it came to iOS 6?

Some people hate change. It's gonna take a couple of new versions before people see the potential behind iOS7. I think Apple was pretty much done with just how innovative they could be with iOS6 in terms of design and interactions.There's only so much "cleaning" up you can do after a while. iOS 7 opened the door to new things and I think (hope) Apple continues that trend with iOS8.
 
Lol at these threads and the countless posts complaining about iOS 7.

It's better in almost every way. And in the ways it's not better (than iOS 6), those will be addressed in 7.1.

I would NEVER go back to iOS 6.

OP - I just want to point out something, which I think gets at the heart of why this thread fails so much.....you're upset about control center because when you swipe up, you also accidentally turn a page in iBooks?

So - Apple is wrong for adding what ever iOS 7 haters admit as a necessary feature because YOU can't seem to swipe straight up and this issue causes you to accidentally turn A page?

Oh....no.....:rolleyes:
 
Lol at these threads and the countless posts complaining about iOS 7.

It's better in almost every way. And in the ways it's not better (than iOS 6), those will be addressed in 7.1.

I would NEVER go back to iOS 6.
Better performance than iOS 6?
Better stability?
Better visibility?

Unless you are a member of the iOS system development team you really don't know if those things will be addressed in 7.1. You might wish, you might think, you might hope, but you really don't know.
 
Some people hate change. It's gonna take a couple of new versions before people see the potential behind iOS7. I think Apple was pretty much done with just how innovative they could be with iOS6 in terms of design and interactions.There's only so much "cleaning" up you can do after a while. iOS 7 opened the door to new things and I think (hope) Apple continues that trend with iOS8.

I don't think it's entirely fair to say that people just hate change. There are a ton of very valid, logical, well-grounded criticisms of things in ios 7. I won't list them, as they're all over the place, but it's really not just that it isn't the same. I think people on a rumors forum in particular are likely more excited about the changes than the average population... But we are quick to notice the details that have changed for the worse. ;)

I was as excited as anyone for iOS 7... But the sluggish feel of navigating the OS, the Music.app, and a variety of smaller issues kind of ruined it for me. At least the feel should be restored by 7.1, but half a year on 7.0.x is a bit of a buzz kill.

It would all be entirely forgivable, IMHO, if Apple allowed people to revert back until the 7.1 update becomes available.
 
Better performance than iOS 6?
Better stability?
Better visibility?

Unless you are a member of the iOS system development team you really don't know if those things will be addressed in 7.1. You might wish, you might think, you might hope, but you really don't know.

Performance is great, smooth and fluid no stutters on my 5S. Stability leaves a bit to be desired, but its a big update and there were bound to be some bugs. Visibility is fine - I must have eagle eyes because I have no problem looking/reading ANYTHING on iOS 7 on my "tiny" 4" screen.

I may not have 7.1 but there are dozens of threads on it by people who are currently using it - up to b5, and the consensus is the bugs are ironed out and the experience is great.

Honestly though, iOS 7 was a huge departure from iOS 6. So much more than just a "coat of paint" - there were bound to be bugs and I'm not going to go all batsh17 crazy because of them.

In a way, iOS 7 is iOS 1.....obviously much farther along, but the START of something new (which I think comes straight from their marketing ha). Apple is always quick to patch bugs and fix things. I have no problem letting them do their thing - and no problem waiting a little longer than a year to get what 7.0 was likely meant to be.
 
I was in same ios 7 complainer camp but I used ios 6 over weekend on iPhone and it's too cramped and outdated for my taste. Clean flat interface provides more space.
 
Lol at these threads and the countless posts complaining about iOS 7.

It's better in almost every way. And in the ways it's not better (than iOS 6), those will be addressed in 7.1.

I would NEVER go back to iOS 6.

OP - I just want to point out something, which I think gets at the heart of why this thread fails so much.....you're upset about control center because when you swipe up, you also accidentally turn a page in iBooks?

So - Apple is wrong for adding what ever iOS 7 haters admit as a necessary feature because YOU can't seem to swipe straight up and this issue causes you to accidentally turn A page?

Oh....no.....:rolleyes:

I can see you really took the time to read my post.

My point was that ergonomics were thrown out the window. Things don't work as smoothly as they did before, and it's not a function of speed, or aesthetic design, it's a function of the way the features were actually laid into the OS.

Swiping up for control center shouldn't lead to me losing my place on a page, or scrolling through a feed. It's a problem associated with full screen apps, the problem doesn't exist with iBooks.

When I open an app, I shouldn't see a screenshot of it from a couple hours ago before I can click on anything.

*these are all fundamental design issues in the OS that have not been addressed by 7.1*

The list goes on and on.

This is a company that's made a business out of being perfect, and better than everyone else. They've faltered with iOS 7, and people say we need to give them a chance, they'll get it right, they need time... but these type of issues are problems that we've never seen come out of Apple before. They show a lack of refinement that's totally unlike the company, and I don't like it.
 
This is a little off topic but only a little bit. I've have no major issues with iOS7. I think Apple is definitely on the right track with it. I have my iPad original running iOS 5 and besides multitasking which I think has gotten so much better, I don't hate iOS 5 (or 6).

That being said, I don't understand why people on this forum expect their iPhone 4 to run anything as well as their friend's or wife's or who ever's iPhone 5s. :confused::confused::confused:
 
I was in same ios 7 complainer camp but I used ios 6 over weekend on iPhone and it's too cramped and outdated for my taste. Clean flat interface provides more space.

Yeah, that’s how I feel about iOS 7. Yes, iOS 6 is faster, but the UI had been horribly outdated. Couldn’t go back to iOS 6 at all.
 
I can see you really took the time to read my post.

My point was that ergonomics were thrown out the window. Things don't work as smoothly as they did before, and it's not a function of speed, or aesthetic design, it's a function of the way the features were actually laid into the OS.

Swiping up for control center shouldn't lead to me losing my place on a page, or scrolling through a feed. It's a problem associated with full screen apps, the problem doesn't exist with iBooks.

When I open an app, I shouldn't see a screenshot of it from a couple hours ago before I can click on anything.

*these are all fundamental design issues in the OS that have not been addressed by 7.1*

The list goes on and on.

This is a company that's made a business out of being perfect, and better than everyone else. They've faltered with iOS 7, and people say we need to give them a chance, they'll get it right, they need time... but these type of issues are problems that we've never seen come out of Apple before. They show a lack of refinement that's totally unlike the company, and I don't like it.

It is brand new, not refined, that should come later on.
 
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In a way, iOS 7 is iOS 1.....obviously much farther along, but the START of something new (which I think comes straight from their marketing ha). Apple is always quick to patch bugs and fix things. I have no problem letting them do their thing - and no problem waiting a little longer than a year to get what 7.0 was likely meant to be.

I know it's reworked, but it isn't so drastically different that it should suffer many of the issues that it does. It shouldn't take half a year to fix it up the way it was supposed to be when it was released... they'll be halfway to iOS 8 by the time 7 is running properly.
 
I can see you really took the time to read my post.

My point was that ergonomics were thrown out the window. Things don't work as smoothly as they did before, and it's not a function of speed, or aesthetic design, it's a function of the way the features were actually laid into the OS.

Swiping up for control center shouldn't lead to me losing my place on a page, or scrolling through a feed. It's a problem associated with full screen apps, the problem doesn't exist with iBooks.

When I open an app, I shouldn't see a screenshot of it from a couple hours ago before I can click on anything.

*these are all fundamental design issues in the OS that have not been addressed by 7.1*

The list goes on and on.

This is a company that's made a business out of being perfect, and better than everyone else. They've faltered with iOS 7, and people say we need to give them a chance, they'll get it right, they need time... but these type of issues are problems that we've never seen come out of Apple before. They show a lack of refinement that's totally unlike the company, and I don't like it.

No it's a function of "you haven't been using it for the last 6 years so there might a little to get used to".....

I don't have any problem losing my place when swiping control center up....and I for one am glad the multitasking tray doesn't keep all my apps going while I'm not using them.....

So you'd rather have the icon in a little dock than the card view? Personally, I don't find the new way technically better, but it sure as hell looks a lot nicer.

Oh and some of those apps do update in the background - iOS 7 intelligent multitasking. It learns when you open regularly used apps and updates them just before you'd normally open them so the content is fresh when you get there.

Again - you seem to simply have aesthetic problems with iOS 7. Which is fine....but you're crazy.

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I know it's reworked, but it isn't so drastically different that it should suffer many of the issues that it does. It shouldn't take half a year to fix it up the way it was supposed to be when it was released... they'll be halfway to iOS 8 by the time 7 is running properly.

Ahh the consumer underestimating the engineering and work that goes into an OS.

Because I'm not an Apple engineer, and they've put out some pretty good stuff in the past, I'll go ahead and say - if iOS 7 was what they could get done in a year, fine. I'm sure they would much rather have released 7.1 as 7 - but they simply didn't have time. Whatever the reason is....doesn't really matter.

The point is - why would Apple PURPOSEFULLY release something that wasn't as good as something they could easily have released in its place?

The answer to that is of course, iOS 7 was the best they could do in the time allowed. Keep in mind there were some management changes and the whole 64-bit thing probably was a tad challenging. I'm sure there's also extra code for future features they needed to lay the ground work for.

Point is - quit your whining or move to something else. 7.1 here we come!
 
Unless you are a member of the iOS system development team you really don't know if those things will be addressed in 7.1. You might wish, you might think, you might hope, but you really don't know.
Quite a lot of us are running 7.1 betas and none of us are on the iOS system development team. :rolleyes:
 
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