Execs just collecting money instead caring about their products. None of them are perfectionist like Steve Jobs. They just want to put it out and collect money.
Agree, the focus on form over function equals problems.
At the risk of being an Apple apologist, I wonder if this is some weird bug in Sierra that went undetected until now.
I think I remember as similar issues back in Yosemite beta.
If it's software it can only be two things, a framebuffer kernel extension or an AMDdriver kernel extension. Which I guess you could say are drivers that load into the kernel memory space.I've seen the following mentioned in this thread, but have yet to see any answers from users experiencing this problem:
Has anyone who has seen this glitch in OSX seen the graphical glitches while running Windows in Bootcamp?
IMHO that would obviously help determine if this is a hardware or a software(kernel/driver/OS/app) issue.
Cheers
Anyone knows if it's possible to test a MBP for this issue somehow?
If it's software it can only be two things, a framebuffer kernel extension or an AMDdriver kernel extension. Which I guess you could say are drivers that load into the kernel memory space.
But, your underlying assumption is wrong. If this glitch is caused by the kext not accounting for some unique or custom aspect of Apple's hardware implementation of the graphics core, then Apple's engineers may not have accounted for it in the boot camp drivers either. This may cause Windows issues as well if that is the case.
basically. Funny thing is this adobe bug is not even using the graphics section of the card. Its hitting the open cl cores on the card. They just sit there and when told to help the cpu out....process work given to them.
Can anyone get the internal and external displays to malfunction? Could it be bad display panels?
sorry, it wasn't the 2011 models, they were actually 2010 models. I remember because I told them "oh just do the recall program" and they were pissed because their 2010 model wasn't part of the recall program.Not true. Apple did have a free repair program for broken 2011 GPUs/mainboards until February 2016 for that. (it was pretty late, though ... and only after many customers created big pressure)
Sure, lets put a 180w chip in a 76-watt-hour capacity machine designed to last a full work day with battery to spare. You couldn't even cool that chip in the first thick Unibody MacBook's enclosure. I wish there was some riddle which had to be solved before posting on MacRumors. I'm tired of seeing comments as dumb as YouTube's on here.
my mistake. they were actually 2010. I edited my post. I remember because I told them there was a recall program and they were pissed because their 2010 models weren't covered.The 2010's had NVIDIA chips, 2011 had AMD. Both years had Quality Programs to replace the logic boards for free. The 2011 program is still active in fact.
my mistake, they were 2010 models. not 2011.2011 MacBook Pros had ATI discrete graphics.
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Since new MacBook Pro models launched last month, an increasing number of early adopters have reported serious graphics issues on Apple's latest notebooks. The glitches and other problems appear to be most prevalent on built-to-order 15-inch models, but standard 13-inch and 15-inch configurations are also affected.
MacRumors reader Jan Becker, for example, said the graphics began to glitch on his new high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro, equipped with built-to-order AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics, while transcoding video with Adobe Media Encoder in Premiere Pro. The notebook subsequently crashed.
Becker claims when he took his MacBook Pro to an Apple retail store to be replaced, an employee said the graphics issues are likely a hardware problem. He later claimed he received a phone call from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, where it allegedly has a team of engineers looking into the issues.The most common symptoms reported by users include brightly colored flickering, full-screen checkerboard patterns, screen tearing, and other visual artifacts. Affected systems may subsequently experience unresponsiveness or a kernel panic, sometimes resulting in the MacBook Pro crashing.
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15-inch MacBook Pro with AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics with full-screen visual artifacts
The high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and built-to-order AMD Radeon Pro 460 graphics appears to be most commonly afflicted, but several users have reported similar issues on 15-inch models equipped with standard AMD Radeon Pro 450 or AMD Radeon Pro 455 GPUs as well.
MacRumors reader Jayselle recorded his 15-inch MacBook Pro with AMD Radeon Pro 455 graphics flickering while connected to two external LG displays.
It is not entirely clear if the issues are a hardware or software problem. The graphics appear to act up most when users are completing intensive tasks, such as transcoding video with Adobe Media Encoder, syncing large photo libraries with Photos, or using other Adobe apps such as Photoshop and Lightroom.
It would initially seem the issue is limited to 15-inch MacBook Pro models with dedicated AMD graphics, but there are a few isolated reports of graphics issues on 13-inch models with integrated Intel Iris 540 and Intel Iris 550 graphics -- including the new 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys.
User complaints extend to the Apple Support Communities and other MacRumors discussion topics, indicating the graphics issues are rather widespread, but not all users are affected. Some speculate the latest macOS Sierra beta may fix the issues, but evidence remains anecdotal.
Separately, a number of users are reporting brief glitches during the boot up process on new MacBook Pro models, particularly along the bottom of the screen. It appears this issue is related to FileVault 2 startup disk encryption, as the glitches go away for many of these users once the feature is disabled.
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As insurance, Apple's extended holiday return policy is currently in effect. MacBook Pros purchased or delivered between November 10 and December 25 are eligible for return until January 8, 2017 in the United States, Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Spain, Germany, and select other countries.
Select 2011-2013 MacBook Pro models have exhibited similar graphics issues in the past, including distorted video, no video, or unexpected system restarts. Apple accordingly launched a Repair Extension Program offering free repairs and refunds, but not before facing a class action lawsuit over the matter.
Apple appears to be aware of and is investigating these latest graphics issues, but it has yet to publicly comment on the matter. Apple been actively exchanging MacBook Pros for affected customers, according to users. Schedule a Genius Bar appointment or contact Apple Support to facilitate this process.
Article Link: Users Find Some New MacBook Pros Suffer From Major Graphics Issues
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except apple technician is very good at micro soldering skills with precision repairing tools, they will repair problematic soldered GPU, if not should apple replace whole unit / new logic board entirely?
By the way: if you compare responsiveness of the user interface between Mac OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 you will find out that Windows 10 is as snappy as OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard was. Times are changing... as good as Apple once was - they let it slip away in a big way...
The insult is at Apple for making products somewhere other than the US.
These issues aren't exclusive to the 2016 models.
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Finally, on the 4th or 5th occurence when my AppleCare expired, Apple gave me a brand new mid 2015 replacement of equivalent specs. Now that is great customer service right there but guess what? The same GPU issue is still happening on my 2015 mbp.
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No one knows for sure why this keeps recurring, was told by different Apple Geniuses that it seems more prevalent in machines with discrete GPUs (like mine) and the reasons range from software glitches to melted solder (Apple use a environmentally friendly solder which would melt at a lower operating temp) that requires 're-balling' or logic board replacements. To think a high tech company haven't figured out the root cause to this issue yet after 4 years...ugh!!
I was wanting to upgrade to a newer, larger model but the price is pretty steep to get that new parlor trick, uh, I mean magical touch bar.
But the haters here are a laugh. Most don't have the machine. They WANT it to be bad, feeding off a small issue (that isn't even a big problem) as if it indicates Apple is about to go out of business.
I have a friend at Apple, there is something wrong but plenty of people are aware of it and are trying to turn it around. The big issue is getting talented people to come and work at Apple.
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Apple has some older staff who are stuck in their ways and that is preventing progress and improvement.
I think there is something really wrong on filevault with graphics card, even on older models. ... Phone support advised me to turn off filevault.
Glad I went with the 13". Never really liked dedicated GPUs in laptops. Not only does it drain the battery and generates too much heat and you have issues like this.
I'm torn on the touch bar, but can do w/o it. Some seem to like it. It seems like it would be a distraction to have to look down to pick things from it, but I can see uses. The function key row has been pretty useless though, so I'm not sad to see it replaced. I'm just probably not going to pay $100s extra for it, and since the base model is the only one with replaceable SSD, that probably seals my decision.
Apple/Nvidia/AMD have had video problems for quite some time.
Models that had recalls:
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
- MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011)
- MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2012)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013)
You do realize the "pro" line is supposed to be used for "pro" work and the integrated crap can't really handle any even slightly more GPU intensive stuff well enough? That's why there are Macbook Airs and Macbook Pros. Well, sorry. That's why there used to be those two lines. Now you can just pick differently priced toybooks.
I would've appreciated the most adding touch bar on top of the current keyboard instead of trying to replace something with it when the touchbar can't do it half as well.