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Glad I picked up a Macbook Air 13" during the BlackFriday deals. This new series of Macbooks "Pro's" are a complete joke and scam. I would never pay that amount of money for a machine that it's overpriced, under powered and now with this critical issues. Besides all of this, don't forget that the SSD is now soldered in to the board, so if anything goes wrong be prepared to visit an Apple Store with a big and fat wallet. I believe this Air I bought will be my last laptop from Apple
 
My mid 2010 MBP model was known to have graphics issues (Nivida GeForce). I think it was mostly on the 15"

Yep, practically every dGPU MBP since 2008 had a comparatively higher failure rate against iGPU, or a repair program issued. :(

Of course these problems will exist just as much on other dGPU non-Apple laptops, if not more, depending on how poorly the cooling system is designed and other factors (HP, I'm looking at you). It's the nature of the beast. Frustrating but it'll be resolved if you're affected.
 
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Too thin for a powerful GPU, form over function, Apple of 2016. Which is why I switched to Windows 10 a while back.

Yeah I'd be willing to bet my left nut that this is a thermal management issue... the GPU or the logic board getting too hot and something is failing under the temperature...

I just don't know what was wrong with the thickness of the previous design? It was already the thinnest, or at least one of the few thinnest 15" laptops with dedicated graphics... They could have redesigned it to the new style, kept some extra flippin' legacy ports, put some DDR4 memory, you know, for "Pro Performance", had better cooling and just as good or better battery life because the battery could be bigger...
 
Glad I went with the 13". Never really liked dedicated GPUs in laptops. Not only does it drain the battery and generates too much heat and you have issues like this.

Is this something a software update can fix or is it a flaw in hardware design?

Even when rendering a 4K video on Final Cut that's 20+ minutes long my 2015 rMBP with AMD doesn't overheat. Gets a little warm but that's it.
 
Yep, practically every dGPU MBP since 2008 had a comparatively higher failure rate against iGPU, or a repair program issued. :(

Of course these problems will exist just as much on other dGPU non-Apple laptops, if not more, depending on how poorly the cooling system is designed and other factors (HP, I'm looking at you). It's the nature of the beast. Frustrating but it'll be resolved if you're affected.


I had a late 2008 dGPU and never had one issue with that laptop. Sold it when I replaced it with my current 2015 15" dGPU. Last one got two hard drive upgrades and 3 RAM upgrades in the time I had it and was rock solid.
 
Nope.
1 1/4" and 6 pounds.
Nice try Tim.
Is there an emoji for gross exaggeration?

And about 1 1/4 to 6 minutes of battery life.

I understand the desire and even need for a more powerful graphics card, but you can't realistically put more than a 1050 or 1060 in at the very most without completely annihilating battery life. My M370X is plenty bad enough on battery. If you want a fancy graphics card, get a desktop. It just isn't practical in laptop form.
 
I'm not an Apple hater. I've been an Apple fanatic for 30+ years, preaching the Apple gospel to anyone that would listen.

That is, until the last year or so. The luster has faded from that once-shiny piece of fruit. Apple has lost its way. Apple is chasing the easy dollars at the expense of its dedicated fan base. Apple used to be about always doing the RIGHT thing. Not just socially and in business, but in the way it treated ALL of its customers, pros and beginners alike.

Apple is now just another electronics manufacturer. It's on its way to being another Sony. True innovation has given way to stagnation and the manufacture of appliances.

And that makes me very very sad.

Mark
 
This almost certainly affects a tiny, tiny minority of people. Probably less than 0.01% of all purchases. Let's not blow things out of proportion, and we all know Apple will make things right for the unlucky few.
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AHHHHHH HAAAAA HAAAAAAA! Do all you Tim Cook defenders still think he's the best?

A few defective MacBook Pros doesn't change a single thing.
 
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