Nice example that fits your narrative. Here's another -- a 17 year old with a job buys a used iphone or Android and gets a free email account and sets up their phone so they don't need their helicopter parents approval. Then what?
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Utah Passes Child Safety Law Requiring Apple to Verify User Age
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So how would they prove they verified the person's age. Yep by storing all the information.
so, how does this work for someone who resides in say Florida? just because Utah passed that law they will have to verify their age too? honest question, don't see that addressed in the article.
I’d rather not have any verification because if you think law enforcement agencies often charged with state identification will not be using source IP and ID number correlations in their logs for potentially dubious to outright unconstitutional (but undetected) means then you haven’t been paying attention.
If the US government wants to enforce age verification, it should create a compulsory ID card designed to replace the fragile social security number. Unverified accounts would be assumed to be minors. Platform developers like Apple and Google could then tap into the government verification system and offer an API that developers can use.
There's user privacy implication with such system, and politicians pushing it as a voter ID.
There's user privacy implication with such system, and politicians pushing it as a voter ID.
Apple could give everyone a
I hear those are popular. I mean, some people are paying $8/month for one.
If Apple can anonymize your credit card info for Apple Pay, then they can do the same for age verification
Apple Pay security and privacy overview - Apple Support
See how your Apple Pay personal and payment information and transaction data is protected.
When you add a credit, debit, prepaid, or transit card (where available) to Apple Pay, information that you enter on your device is encrypted and sent to Apple servers. If you use the camera to enter the card information, the information is never saved on your device or photo library.
Apple decrypts the data, determines your card’s payment network, and re-encrypts the data with a key that only your payment network (or any providers authorized by your card issuer for provisioning and token services) can unlock.
If someone resides in Florida, then why would the law apply to that person?
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How does Apple determine that someone is not only a resident of Utah but also physically in Utah when doing the age verification thing? asking the question: are you a resident of Utah first?
Of course they do. Otherwise, Meta would have to do the work.
Apple doesn’t allow porn or gore. What are these lawmakers protecting children from? Social media… maybe these regulation happy legislators should regulate social media itself instead of using it as an excuse for more police state like invasiveness that doesn’t actually address the harms of social media on children (and adults). I bet that’s not what Facebook brib…uh… lobbied them for.
Gotta love the Nanny states. Leave government out of parenting.
The same way Apple can determine that someone is not only a resident of the EU but also physically in (or outside of) the EU?
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Won’t fix anything as it’s a state law.
Hmmm, I think I would be uncomfortable providing Apple with my driver's license number, passport number or social security number. These are all very key numbers that could lead to identity theft if leaked. I do like the idea of protecting children but I don't see how to do that without other risks.
The same way Apple can determine that someone is not only a resident of the EU but also physically in (or outside of) the EU?
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Something that a VPN can take care of?
Exactly, even if federal law. Just use a VPN. Florida requires age verification for adult sites, easily bypassed with a vpn.
Does Walmart have to sell porn because they check IDs for beer?
From what I understand Utah's law is more akin to retailers having to verify the age of anyone visiting the store regardless of what they might intend to buy.
While it definitely makes sense to verify the age of buyers of age-restricted items, it is pretty questionable to have to preemptively verify everyone's age.
Do you really trust Google to delete all the id information aside from age? I don’t.
And even just the age can be used for targeted advertising or selling of user data. There’s no way to only say “I’m over 18” without handing over your exact age.
Edit: with id-based identification. This doesn’t seem to be what Apple is using (yet).
Apple has already done plenty. Now if the parent or parents are too lazy to use them, that's on them.
Get your child a flip phone with simple calling and nothing else if you can't be bothered to learn how to use the parental controls.
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Get your child a flip phone with simple calling and nothing else if you can't be bothered to learn how to use the parental controls.
Use parental controls on your child's iPhone or iPad - Apple Support
With Screen Time, you can turn on Content & Privacy Restrictions to manage content, apps, and settings on your child's device. You can also restrict explicit content, purchases and downloads, and changes to privacy settings.
Funny how you went straight to porn but okay. Plenty of other things that’s have been blocked due to “the children”. If I have to validate my age I should be able to consume anything anyone wants to publish.