"should be" doing a lot of heavy lifting there, and the history that has got us to this point rather demonstrates it hasn't worked so far so I am rather intrigued by how you think you can make it work in the future.
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Utah Passes Child Safety Law Requiring Apple to Verify User Age
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"should be" doing a lot of heavy lifting there, and the history that has got us to this point rather demonstrates it hasn't worked so far so I am rather intrigued by how you think you can make it work in the future.
The same can be said of any age restricted product really. How does Gamestop know I'll let my teenage kids play the next Assassin's Creed?
This entire debacle actually presents a strong use case for blockchain technology. An ID, minted by the state as an NFT alongside physical papers can be used for zero-knowledge proof without the actual exchange of personal data. Such a thing would have all sorts of practical uses across the web in actually enforcing age-gating to content
I got great parenting.
It upsets me that [some] people these days can be such lousy parents, and expect strangers to police their children's actions.
Do many kids have their own Apple account ?
I'm not sure how this would work if the kids are using the parents credentials (i.e. how do you really know who is using the app).
I'm not sure how this would work if the kids are using the parents credentials (i.e. how do you really know who is using the app).
You don't look at the credentials, you just look to see if the account logged onto the device is set to child in a family group. That would be a single API call that returned a boolean answer.
Which is like, idk 70% of them at the very least? Also safari would need to be banned as well since it “can be used to access adult information”.
Apple's digital ID system allows for apps & reader devices like at airports, to ask for select data, not only everything on an ID card.
In this case, Apple's app store could ask only the question "Are you 18+ years old?" So not even someone's specific birthday, and their digital ID would only release after you confirm, the answer of yes or no based on calculating from your birthday whether you're 18+.
In this case, Apple's app store could ask only the question "Are you 18+ years old?" So not even someone's specific birthday, and their digital ID would only release after you confirm, the answer of yes or no based on calculating from your birthday whether you're 18+.
That's so ironic (and hypocritical). The only state that looks the other way at illegal polygamy and child brides being forced to marry "elders", protecting children from what, Apple Inc.? That makes me want to scream into a pillow and eat a whole cake!
The law is to prevent children to be on adult websites, download bad games (aggressive) and more... why are you against this???? You wan't you children to play with bad stuff?
That's how I think it should work.
But if governments are going to start requiring that ages be confirmed via looking at documents that prove age, I'd much rather Apple be the party reviewing my proof of age than random app developers.
Parents should set the account up as a child account and be responsible for what the kids are allowed to access. The government or Apple shouldn't have to be involved at all.
Especially when it means giving Apple access to every single customer's private information. I don't want yet another company having access to my private information like driver's license/passport/social security number.
You’re clearly not familiar with Utah’s history. Having lived there, l unfortunately am 🥲
So, basically this just means anyone creating an account will just say they are over 13 (or from another state). What a waste of time, but what else should you expect when the government is involved.
I agree it would not be funny to give info to apple but they should find a way without giving information. For example you will go to the App Store and you will need to set up your device right there ONLY… you cannot remove your device from your Apple ID without going to App Store ! And Touch ID and Face ID will be always required unless you enable safe mode which allows you to use your iPad with the code but we disable everything +18…
For security reasons Face ID or Touch ID and the code will be required when you restart your device for example or when you haven’t use your device for 48h (like when your device says : use your code to unlock Face ID/touch id)
Apple is tricky… the camera will always look at you to make sure it’s you that are using the device… if you leave… safe mode is activated… if you comeback then it’s disabled… (theses permanent usage of camera doesn’t needs WiFi though… they are also not shared to apple)
So yeah that’s how it would work… crazy but effective!
Too much parents are letting their children doing everything they want… and this is the only solution to fix this parents problem
Well, they can do age verification the same way adults sites do age verification: the honor system.😁😇
I [a kid] lie with the website and it with me,
And in our faults by lies we flattered be.
Website: Are you over 18? Yes or No.
Underage kids: Yes.
Website: Welcome in.
I'm not against it, all for it, in fact. I just find Utah hypocritical when they tacitly endorse forced marriages of girl children to LDS elders. Guess you don't know too much about the Church of the Latter Day Saints.
Child Marriage in Utah - Unchained At Last
helping women leave arranged/forced marriages
www.unchainedatlast.org
What's the right balance to strike? I think kids should be protected from the very-well-known harms of social media and unfettered online access. In the same vein though, privacy should be respected. How do you do age verification in a way that preserves privacy? If you simply ask, kids will lie. If you verify using known ways, it has data mining potential.
Until the US implements a public-key private-key type of identification system (maybe as part of id.me), I cannot think of a way to verify age without handing over private information.
Doesn't Australia have similar laws? How do they do it?
So is Apple responsible for your child's online activity? Funny I thought it was you, the parent, who should be in charge!
The only one of those that's unavoidable is banks.
I definitely did NOT give ID to a cell carrier, nor would I. No need for that.
The only government entity that I know of that has my drivers license is the one that issued it.
I file taxes by mail. No ID needed.
Never needed it to buy a car. All I needed for that was cash.
I got my first passport before I had a drivers license.
Fixes almost everything. Apps without a physical presence in Utah can just ignore the law.
And that is just the beginning. I fully expect all social media to require photo id in the near future.