I've had my phone stolen before so it's possible. Although I would asses the situation because making a decision.
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Well sure it’s possible, but it’s pretty unlikely. I’m not about to go buy a drone to take pictures because of that.
Really? They'd have to be pretty quick to break and run AND get away - and I can't count the number of times a complete stranger has handed me their phone to snap a photo ... and I didn't steal it
Was checking what Swedish law said about shooting drones....hmm.
Seems like, we are supposed to report it to the police, or follow the drone back to the owner and talk to them
We don’t have a 2nd amendment, so getting a gun here is a long story. I probably won’t have a reason to be allowed one. Air gun however, is a possibility. I shot some air riffle, long time ago. Might work to at least damage the da** thing.
Garden hose?
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I literally do that to ALL situations. It’s got me in trouble a few times, but I roll with the punches.
I never said to buy a drone because someone could steal your phone.
That's because you're a better person than a thief. And my phone wasn't stolen when someone was taking a picture.Really? They'd have to be pretty quick to break and run AND get away - and I can't count the number of times a complete stranger has handed me their phone to snap a photo ... and I didn't steal it
I never thought about a garden hose!
Same here! I'm a fan of Colonel Boyd's OODA Loop. Observe, orient, decide & act.
Same here! I'm a fan of Colonel Boyd's OODA Loop. Observe, orient, decide & act.
I usually observe and jump straight to over-react.
You implied it (or something similar because of not trusting a stranger to take a picture of you) in the context of the conversation. Sorry if that was misrepresented.
Nah, more thinking of buying some pebbles and small stones in a garden shop and fill up a jar with it standing on the balcony where the drone showed up.
Easily available, just grab a hand a throw it. Bang.
Also looked at Air Guns, not too expensive, no license needed. Love to play a bit cowgirl
But maybe start with the stones, don't think that could be a crime. Shooting might look a bit worse.
Not sure exactly what we can shoot with those things. Will read up on it.
As a kid my brother had an Air Rifle. Maybe too many birds were hurt in our surroundings.
That was not me. Would never hurt animals.
But maybe I was guilty of increasing failed streetlamps in the neighborhood
I have passed some time this afternoon happily perusing videos where eagles (or other large raptors) attacked (and destroyed) drones. Very funny to see such action from the perspective of the drone's camera.
That's a good plan.Nah, more thinking of buying some pebbles and small stones in a garden shop and fill up a jar with it standing on the balcony where the drone showed up.
Easily available, just grab a hand a throw it. Bang.
Also looked at Air Guns, not too expensive, no license needed. Love to play a bit cowgirl
But maybe start with the stones, don't think that could be a crime. Shooting might look a bit worse.
Not sure exactly what we can shoot with those things. Will read up on it.
As a kid my brother had an Air Rifle. Maybe too many birds were hurt in our surroundings.
That was not me. Would never hurt animals.
But maybe I was guilty of increasing failed streetlamps in the neighborhood
I've seen a few and they are funny.
But maybe I was guilty of increasing failed streetlamps in the neighborhood
Scofflaw!! Jotting down your name.
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I did too. Haha.
Hm.
Perhaps, the strongest argument yet I have come across in favour of the Second Amendment.
If your drone spots an outdoor wedding in progress, get it out of there... far, far away, and fast!
If you don't see the wedding, that doesn't mean there isn't one nearby that your drone is disturbing.
If you don't see the wedding, that doesn't mean there isn't one nearby that your drone is disturbing.
Here's a couple of options!
Drones are anti social in general. When I get out somewhere nice and quiet, the last thing I want to hear is the buzz of a drone!
I travel on vacation with my Mavic Pro and have yet to have a problem. It hasn't been shot. I haven't been yelled at. Blah blah. It's not as loud as most drones, in fact from any reasonable distance you can't hear it. I tend to take distant arial shots. Sometimes a dog will be aware. I have yet to have people stop and stare (remotely). I do find that people near me are curious and come up and ask friendly questions. Had a guy offer me a drink if I took a picture of him and his wife on the beach lol. Certainly not the nonsense people are posting.
On location, I DO ask permission if there is an obvious person to ask, and I offer to share pictures. This works great for small lodge types of places, not so great with large chain hotels. Do be prepared to be told no. I once had a situation in Grand Cayman where I was bordering 1 mile away from a prison. The law clearly says to ask permission of the warden if within a mile. I wrote and got told by the warden he didn't have the authority to grant permission and he sent me to their equivalent of the FAA. I kept being bounced around. I stopped asking and did not fly there.
Do learn the rules of where you can fly (state parks no, cities no, etc.). If I think my drone will make someone uncomfortable I don't fly there. I.e. legal or not, permission or not, I just don't fly near crowded beaches or places where people may be sunbathing.
With flights, you have to carry on the batteries, and they want the contacts covered (electrical tape or there are covers on amazon)
enjoy!
edit: Yes the FAA likes you to register with them, but legally the requirement to do so has been overturned. You still do if you want a commercial license. I recommend to do so however, because it's cheap and it gives me peace of mind to say I have if anyone asks. Registration is for the whole U.S. Do write your phone number on the drone as well. Just in case.
On location, I DO ask permission if there is an obvious person to ask, and I offer to share pictures. This works great for small lodge types of places, not so great with large chain hotels. Do be prepared to be told no. I once had a situation in Grand Cayman where I was bordering 1 mile away from a prison. The law clearly says to ask permission of the warden if within a mile. I wrote and got told by the warden he didn't have the authority to grant permission and he sent me to their equivalent of the FAA. I kept being bounced around. I stopped asking and did not fly there.
Do learn the rules of where you can fly (state parks no, cities no, etc.). If I think my drone will make someone uncomfortable I don't fly there. I.e. legal or not, permission or not, I just don't fly near crowded beaches or places where people may be sunbathing.
With flights, you have to carry on the batteries, and they want the contacts covered (electrical tape or there are covers on amazon)
enjoy!
edit: Yes the FAA likes you to register with them, but legally the requirement to do so has been overturned. You still do if you want a commercial license. I recommend to do so however, because it's cheap and it gives me peace of mind to say I have if anyone asks. Registration is for the whole U.S. Do write your phone number on the drone as well. Just in case.
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The people who are yelling at your drone are too far away from you for you to hear them.
I didn't see the sarcasm symbol... but surely you jest. I don't fly the drone that far out so as to not see anyone that might be effected, and them see me. The mavics are very low impact. At any given location there are numerous other sources of noise / visual pollution that are much more disruptive, people on their phones, cars driving by, etc etc.. I appreciate some just like to hate on drones, but its silly.
Yes, some people do indeed "hate on" drones, but I will say, firstly, your earlier post at least acknowledges that consent ought to be sought and shows some sense of respect for the concerns of others, in marked contrast to the breathtaking sense of bottomless entitlement that emanated from the post of the OP and thread starter.
Your earlier post demonstrates some sense of respect for the concerns and space of others.
And secondly, the use of drones is not quite of the same order of "background noise" as one finds with cars, mobile phones and so on.
This is because of the issue of boundaries and personal space, irrespective of whether one is in the "public" or "private" space; the use of drones allows for users to bypass or override boundaries, and to disregard (or dismiss as "haters" or "bitter") issues to do with consent or signalling respect for the personal space or boundaries of others.
And this is the key concern that many have with drones, an issue, or concern, that many handling or owning or using the drones appear to be heedless of for the most part, or blithely unconcerned.
Permission, consent, a recognition that people have the right to set their own personal space and boundaries - even in public, but especially in private (re-read the post made by @Lioness~) need to be acknowledged by drone users.
Sneering "bitter" and "haters" will do little to convince others that you understand that your right to capture images does not negate their right to personal space, some privacy, and some degree of respect, even in public.
Well, most of your post is respectful so I will reply... but I do not think you can take me to task for the term 'haters' (I didn't say 'bitter') in a thread were people are patting each other on the back for trading ways to shoot drones out of the sky. Its amusing bit of fantasy to be sure, my drone would never get close enough for any of that, but still its a high level of disrespect.
What is it about drones that seem to focus so much concern? Name the technology that can NOT be abused? My neighbor can get much more of an eyeful with a telescope or binoculars than one could ever get with my drone (wide angle lens). Invasion of personal space? Why is it okay for a person to literally sit next to me so that our shoulders are rubbing and talk on his/her cell phone.... but its not okay for me to have a drone 100 meters in the sky so that its invisible to the eye and ear?! Or the person pushing their musical tastes on me at the beach because they want their boom box on their blanket? The person with his/her cell phone taking pictures at public events with me in them, without asking my permission? Or what about recreational motorcycles / snow mobilers running through the woods such that you can hear them literally a mile away?! Why do they get to enjoy their hobby but I don't mine? I am not saying drones can't be abused, of course they can, but so can every other piece of technology.
and.. btw.. "breathtaking sense of bottomless entitlement that emanated from the post of the OP", thats just so wrong. The OP is looking to get involved in a hobby and is taking the first steps in learning, to denigrate him in such a fashion does not make your point at all.
I've seen them used at Ingress events. Didn't really bother me but wow are they loud. Someone in my neighborhood bought one and was flying over peoples houses - you can hear it 3-4 houses down. I caught it even looking at me while I was reading in my back yard - kinda hard relaxing with that thing loudly buzzing for hours on end. Eventually cops were called while a multi-person "fight" ensued down the street when they caught the drone operator(s). Some of the expensive ones aren't super noisy. I honestly can't say I'm a huge fan of them, but some of the footage I've seen is really nice. All I can think, though, is how you'd probably spend more time dealing with people calling 911 on ya than anything.
Snow mobiles don't usually bother large groups of people at once. I too dislike boom boxes at the beach - I imagine as long as the music / drone were quiet enough, it would be fine/tolerated. 100 meters in the sky and not audible - probably wouldn't bother anyone - definitely not me. It's the idiots who hover 30 ft over a crowd and get a ton of attention.
I've actually seen several signs indicating that Drones were not permitted in the place I was at. Not sure if that's a city ordinance thing or a business/personal wish? :/
Snow mobiles don't usually bother large groups of people at once. I too dislike boom boxes at the beach - I imagine as long as the music / drone were quiet enough, it would be fine/tolerated. 100 meters in the sky and not audible - probably wouldn't bother anyone - definitely not me. It's the idiots who hover 30 ft over a crowd and get a ton of attention.
I've actually seen several signs indicating that Drones were not permitted in the place I was at. Not sure if that's a city ordinance thing or a business/personal wish? :/
I would look into a paintball gun if I had issues with drones like you do.Nah, more thinking of buying some pebbles and small stones in a garden shop and fill up a jar with it standing on the balcony where the drone showed up.
Easily available, just grab a hand a throw it. Bang.
Also looked at Air Guns, not too expensive, no license needed. Love to play a bit cowgirl
But maybe start with the stones, don't think that could be a crime. Shooting might look a bit worse.
Not sure exactly what we can shoot with those things. Will read up on it.
As a kid my brother had an Air Rifle. Maybe too many birds were hurt in our surroundings.
That was not me. Would never hurt animals.
But maybe I was guilty of increasing failed streetlamps in the neighborhood
I enjoy my music through QC35's. I don't inflict it on others. I don't think it is fair of people to do that. Especially as people who play loud music so all can hear always have terrible taste in music.
As for spying on you in your garden, yes my next door neighbour could. But I could on them to. But as neither of us want to do that or have that done to us, we don't.
But a drone piloted by who knows who and from where is much more sinister.
Hmm, I have to correct you here. I'm not the one with an issues, the drone driver is.
I get a problem of it because the drone driver don't respect people's integrity. Most likely because he lacks of it himself.