Are you running Gods & Kings or Vanilla? The expansion is SLOW.
"I hope it adds Achievements to Photoshop."
/thread. I really stopped reading.
There are some really ignorant posts in this thread.![]()
Direct3D is not crappy, it is industry leading. Man, I still can't believe some of the stuff I read on this board.
Well, I think that Steam has nothing to do against Mac AppStore but it's a good solution for Windows systems.
Multi-platform support - Windows, OS X and soon Ubuntu Linux. That alone is something you would NEVER get from Apple.
I welcome competition, but I worry about fragmentation.
I don't want to check several app stores to find the app I want. I don't want to install several app stores to re-install and update all my apps.
But then again, Amazon already has Mac app downloads, too. And nobody seems to have noticed.
But the Steam FAQ says this:
That doesn't really sound more developer friendly than the Mac App Store. Apparently developers aren't allowed to talk about their split, either.
I think this is a good idea, although Steam isn't without its faults. Anyone else had to sit there falling asleep while the message sits on your screen saying: Verifying Game Cache then pauses at 100% for 20 mins?
Assuming they can overcome such technical issues, it could be a good thing. I for one prefer Steam to the App store - although it might not be fair to compare them at this stage as they are both very different.
10Mb Fiber optic connection and a 60Gb SSD dedicated to Steam apps (50% full). Must be more to it than that!
The fact that Valve managed to increase a 12% improvement on L4D2 just by switching from Direct3D to OpenGL is enough to warent moving to the platform completely. It makes perfect business sense if they want their products to work cross platform.
Not sure if you're aware but TF2 is one of the most resource intensive games. It will not work on a 2008 MBP, thats for sure. Put it this way. It struggles on my 09 Mac Pro.Ive got a 2008 C2D 2GB Macbook Pro and Steam is a mess on it. Tried installing TF2 on it, locked up my whole macbook then TF2 failed to properly uninstall.
Cleaned the whole hard drive to get rid of it, wont be going back to it.
Before people say 2008 Mac? Get a new one! My C2D windows running pc runs Steam and about 30 games on it fine. Apples and Steam don't mix well imo.
Yes, Counter Strike Source works like a dream on a mac! (sarcasm)
the only reason they are doing this is to try to fight off win 8...
Steam: Where to go if you don't want Apple holding your hand or giving your password to hackers.
Call of Duty 4: $39.99 Mac App Store, $19.99 Steam
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: $14.99 Mac App Store, $9.99 Steam
Bioshock 2: $24.99 Mac App Store, $19.99 Steam
That's just 3 very quick examples, there's plenty more if you look for yourself.
I hope it adds Achievements to Photoshop.
The expansion of Steam to other software categories could pose signification competition for other digital marketplaces such as Apple's Mac App Store.
Looking forward to the next Steam Sale event. Who knows? Microsoft Office for $9.99?
CPU time devoted to hack out checksums and a Steam server that is unhappy.
A wizard did it or cosmic rays.
This is nice, but, Steam on my 2011 MBP barely runs. Locks my whole laptop up and uses up about 50% of my i7 just idling.
you're forced to use plastic to pay for games.
Steam is the only reason I run a native windows installation (purely for gaming), and as weird as it sounds, I far prefer the OS X port. On the same computer, the windows version will occasionally sit there not responding for 20 seconds as it does whatever its doing on start up, or when starting a game download.
Steam isnt perfect, but I am in love with it, and absolutely addicted to steam sales. The entire system just suits me better in every way than the current Mac App Store implementation. Infact I bought a few games I already owned on MAS during the recent steam sale, just for the convenience.
If they start selling apps, and can offer something a little more flexible than the "I can only run it on one computer at a time" limitation, I think they'd do quite well.
Steam is a pain sometimes. Just earlier I noticed it was utilising 1GB of RAM sitting there on the store front page!
$ ps -p 416 -o rss,vsz,command
RSS VSZ COMMAND
230584 1086360 /Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/osx32/steam -psn_0_28269
Everyone panic it is the Microsoft Store! Next up Ubuntu Software Center is competing against Steam!
No ire from Gatekeeper and the App Store but the end of the world is here otherwise. Talk about getting laughed out of the room for being one of the 5 Steam users on OS X...
First, are you reading the virtual size of the process or the resident set size ?
Code:$ ps -p 416 -o rss,vsz,command RSS VSZ COMMAND 230584 1086360 /Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/osx32/steam -psn_0_28269
Notice here, Steam is using 230584 KB of memory, as reported by the Resident Set Size (RSS) but 1086360 KB for the Virtual Set Size (VSZ). The virtual set is more than just the memory usage though, it's everything the application has opened, including any mmap'ed files in the cache, etc.. The actual memory used by the application is the RSS. So Steam is using about 230 MB of memory.
That's still alot. Second thing to understand is that Steam is basically a Cocoa application wrapped around a WebView. Yes, it's just a big old Safari browser essentially, as far as the storefront is concerned and probably quite a few other parts that access your Steam account.
Web browsers these days tend to be quite the memory hogs unfortunately so that might explain it.
Third... ugh... Steam uses Flash. Notice how sometimes opening Steam prompts you to update your system's Flash to a new version ? Maybe not if you use Safari and keep it up to date through there, but I use Chrome, so the system's version of Flash never gets updated, except when I open Steam.
I don't like Steam. The concept of it is good, but it's far too buggy, and you're forced to use plastic to pay for games.
Steam will easily wipe the floor with any MS store (again, IMO) due to the fact thats its a lot more widely known and is already on millions of computers. Plus steam do some awesome promotions that cant be beaten elsewhere.