Uh no. Other LTE phones = single chip = SVDO
Check Evo 4G LTE. Single chip phone, and does SVDO. Multi chip phones are fairly old news already.
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Verizon 4G = Data + Voice at once?
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Uh no. Other LTE phones = single chip = SVDO
Check Evo 4G LTE. Single chip phone, and does SVDO. Multi chip phones are fairly old news already.
Nope, all on same SoC. Snapdragon S4 MSM8960. Very similar to Cortex A15 (a pipeline depth difference and that's about it)
iPhone is multiantenna as well. They just want them both to be redudant since otherwise the death grip would exhibit itself
From what I understand - it's still using two radios to transmit voice and data at the same time. Two radios - more battery drain. It's also why with AT&T you drop to HSPA+ when using voice and data - so that way your only using one radio.
My bad. I found it, I stand corrected.
It looks like SVDO is a recent SOC capability for Qualcomm. Came out
In their Snapdragon S4 in the 2nd half of this year.
SVLTE being in the Evo LTE and serving the same purpose over LTE and came out 3Q 2012.
Look guys, the capability is there absolutely. Other phones have been doing it for years. The chips are there, the space is there, etc.
Apple decided we can't have simultaneous voice and data.
Want to know why? Because Apple is obsessed with making the phones smaller each time instead of improving their capabilities. You may notice that the battery is for all intents and purposes not increased since introduction of iPhone 4.
1,420 mAh - iPhone 4
1,430 mAh - iPhone 4S
1,440 mAh - iPhone 5
Wow! What a whopping increase in battery capacity each time! Under 1%!
That, my friends, is why we can't have talk + surf. It would use up too much battery, and since the current iPhone is "too thick" and we want to make it smaller, we can't have a larger battery by adding, say, 30% battery capacity by using the newly freed up space to increase the size of the battery.
Apple loves to do their little battery presentation in the keynote. It's a bunch of crap. It's not even that great of a battery **and** they are not allowing us features precisely because of their battery claims/concerns.
This is ridiculous. The iPhone used to be a cutting edge product. Now it's a "we will give you whatever we feel like giving you because we can" product. The 4S and now the 5 are products that are way behind and *not* more advanced than the competitor phones.
Apple decided we can't have simultaneous voice and data.
Want to know why? Because Apple is obsessed with making the phones smaller each time instead of improving their capabilities. You may notice that the battery is for all intents and purposes not increased since introduction of iPhone 4.
1,420 mAh - iPhone 4
1,430 mAh - iPhone 4S
1,440 mAh - iPhone 5
Wow! What a whopping increase in battery capacity each time! Under 1%!
That, my friends, is why we can't have talk + surf. It would use up too much battery, and since the current iPhone is "too thick" and we want to make it smaller, we can't have a larger battery by adding, say, 30% battery capacity by using the newly freed up space to increase the size of the battery.
Apple loves to do their little battery presentation in the keynote. It's a bunch of crap. It's not even that great of a battery **and** they are not allowing us features precisely because of their battery claims/concerns.
This is ridiculous. The iPhone used to be a cutting edge product. Now it's a "we will give you whatever we feel like giving you because we can" product. The 4S and now the 5 are products that are way behind and *not* more advanced than the competitor phones.
Certainly Apple made choices that impact users on Verizon and Sprint. They could have gone a different way but that isn't the way Apple works. The way the product looks is often more important than features. We all have choices and we can choose to stay with Apple and not have simultaneous voice and data on Verizon/Sprint, we can go with Android and have phones on those networks that have it, we can switch to AT&T and have it, or we can come here and complain as if anyone at Apple is reading these boards. I went with choice 1 but I have a LTE iPad 3 that I can use for things like navigation. If I didn't, I probably would be with AT&T.
I slept on it.
I'm still astonished. I was leaning towards going back to an iPhone. I'm significantly less inclined to do so now. I'm not trolling here. I simply didn't see this coming.
I'm still astonished. I was leaning towards going back to an iPhone. I'm significantly less inclined to do so now. I'm not trolling here. I simply didn't see this coming.
I went ahead and placed an order cause I think that it will be able to do data and voice at least on 4G despite what we are hearing. How could it be the only LTE that doesn't ? It just doesn't make sense
Good luck.
We really want know the truth till next week . Or am I wishing for something that has no chance ?
I went ahead and placed an order cause I think that it will be able to do data and voice at least on 4G despite what we are hearing. How could it be the only LTE that doesn't ? It just doesn't make sense
Sure, go for it
It's just as much as fail on Verizon and Sprint. They chose a proprietary network with their CDMA implemtation, and now it's biting them in the ass.
AT&T and tMobile chose a standard that is worldwide and they knew was future-proof.
Apple chose one less antenna because it didn't work with their design, and probably what it would take to "fix" cost more than not doing it. Apple doesn't lose either way.
Exactly.
They should have put a lid on it and killed of CDMA a very long time ago so now they expect manufacturers to still support their dinosaur tech?
What is it like 2 CDMA carriers out of over 100+ different networks the iphone is sold to that cannot do data and voice?
Pretty insignificant IMO, its a business decision and what made sense to Apple when there is almost all of them GSM based besides a few.