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Hmmm..

Well I'm confused... if iPhone does come to Verizon should I stick with AT&T or go on to Verizon?
I have heard good and bad rumors about Verizon and sometimes I lose coverage with AT&T.
What do you iPhone techy people think?
Thanks!
 
1) Verizon is notorious for it's proprietary applications on its network. Crappy one's too.

It would be a huge coup if Apple said, "Sure, but you have to open up the network to work and allow all of the iPhone functionality (and possibly other functionality in v4.0), like visual Voice Mail and Safari and Maps and etc.

Which I doubt Verizon will ever do.

Old info.

Since they've started carrying Android phones, ain't so no mo.;)
 
I'm guessing that's CEO speak for 'TOld Apple to give it to us for $99 ea' and 'you get no revenue sharing like you do with AT&T' along with 'we get to sell apps through our store' and apple told them to go stuff themselves
 
Old info.

Since they've started carrying Android phones, ain't so no mo.;)

agreed...why do people keep posting this and preaching it like gospel? take a look at the droid and the pre and the blackberries. People who say verizon locks things down clearly do not know verizon at all
 
Well I'm confused... if iPhone does come to Verizon should I stick with AT&T or go on to Verizon?
I have heard good and bad rumors about Verizon and sometimes I lose coverage with AT&T.
What do you iPhone techy people think?
Thanks!

My opinion, I don't have an iphone, find out what your priority is. Find the best service in your area, find the phone you like. If both on the same ... then great. If not, decide what is more important, the service or the phone. Then just get it.
 
FINALLY an iPhone for the rest of us

Since much of the middle of the country STILL can't get an iPhone because AT&T does not provide service, this is welcome news indeed.

And the 3G coverage by Verizon is so much better. I'd rather have a little slower 3G than none at all.
 
agreed...why do people keep posting this and preaching it like gospel? take a look at the droid and the pre and the blackberries. People who say verizon locks things down clearly do not know verizon at all

They used to big time. A big reason Verizon wasn't the carrier for iPhone in the first place.

iPhone has opened their eyes.
 
The bigger issue for Apple is Android. The past is the past, Verizon messed up but it would be a mistake now for Apple to not finally release an iPhone on Verizon.
 
Im sure, and they can go get a phone on a network that works for them or keep dreaming about a Verizon iPhone while complaining about service. Simple solution.

Unless you are locked into a contract and can't switch yet. My coverage was great until I moved. Unless AT&T improves the coverage here in the next few months I will be switching to another carrier. I love my iPhone, but would rather have a phone that actually gave me good coverage. I would like to have both - I'm sorry if that annoys you...
 
They used to big time. A big reason Verizon wasn't the carrier for iPhone in the first place.

iPhone has opened their eyes.

Errr, if there's ONE example of things being locked down it's the iPhone and its store. I doubt Apple was an inspiration to loosen up control. Android, on the other hand...
 
Yeah, the big question is can they do voice and data on their network, and will they give us all the visual voicemail and other features or try to restrict it. I don't see Apple doing it unless they get all of it.
 
1) Verizon is notorious for it's proprietary applications on its network. Crappy one's too.

It would be a huge coup if Apple said, "Sure, but you have to open up the network to work and allow all of the iPhone functionality (and possibly other functionality in v4.0), like visual Voice Mail and Safari and Maps and etc.

Which I doubt Verizon will ever do.

at&t is FAR worse with loading up smartphones with crapware at this point. For example: the Motorola Backflip.
 
The network can, the handset can't.

Whose network and who's handset? It's my understanding that the quote you were referring to was talking about the iPhone NOT being able to use simultaneous voice and data on Verizon's network. I think you've got this backwards.

The network (Verizon) can't. This is a product of HSDPA/UMTS technology.

From AT&T's site:

"The AT&T 3G network uses HSDPA/UMTS technology (High Speed Downlink Packet Access/Universal Mobile Telephone System), which makes it possible to enjoy a variety of feature-rich wireless services. It also gives AT&T the advantage of offering simultaneous voice and data services. That means you can talk and use the Internet at the same time."

The handset (iPhone) can. Many of us do this all the time.
 
could this also be why there previewing 4.0 early i could see some hint or specail surprise about the iPhone Verizon moment to get apps ready to make sure that they can be compatible with a CDMA version of a iPhone which would be released at WWDC ?
 
I really hope it happens. iPhone with more carriers means less people coming to AT&T and finally the AT&T network getting a break. A lot of people don't understand what an unlimited data plan on an iphone does to a network. In the apple world things are made so easy that we expect the internet to always work, and we want multiplayer games, and stream content over 3G, etc. These things weren't so easily accessible before the iphone. My verizon smartphone days were never about how much data I could pull, watching youtube on a motorola q was a chore to say the least and playing games weren't online wasn't even a thought.

Now you open the doors and let everyone carry the iphone and spread usage more evenly and performance at AT&T will increase.

I still have to do some research on this but is CDMA out the door when LTE comes out? I mean obviously CDMA technology and the CDMA network will be around for many years for those who haven't made the switch to an LTE device, but is CDMA dying or is LTE built on CDMA?
 
Yeah, the big question is can they do voice and data on their network, and will they give us all the visual voicemail and other features or try to restrict it. I don't see Apple doing it unless they get all of it.

a) No, CDMA phones (not running Ev-DV) cannot do voice/data simultaneously.

b) Visual voicemail would be included as its Apple's own software. Verizon charges for its own Visual Voicemail software. No hardware suppliers aside from Apple are packaging their own VisVM software.
 
Errr, if there's ONE example of things being locked down it's the iPhone and its store. I doubt Apple was an inspiration to loosen up control. Android, on the other hand...

Verizon allowed Android after seeing their Get It Now BS was just that compared to the iPhone choices.

Even though iPhone is technically locked down, Apple allows other app.'s and content, something Verizon never did.

I'm loving my Droid with removable battery & I got Android 2.1 O.S. today, at no charge!!

Google's voice app. is unbelievably accurate.
 
People who say verizon locks things down clearly do not know verizon at all

People who think Verizon didn't lock things down and rule the software (and hardware functionality) on their devices with an iron fist before the iPhone on AT&T forced them to change their ways clearly do not know Verizon at all.
 
I still have to do some research on this but is CDMA out the door when LTE comes out? I mean obviously CDMA technology and the CDMA network will be around for many years for those who haven't made the switch to an LTE device, but is CDMA dying or is LTE built on CDMA?

No, CDMA will be around for at least 20 years, at least in some capacity. An LTE device would most likely have to be backwards compatible for at least most of that.
 
I doubt apple would let their phone be subject to a network that can't do voice and data at the same time. Just look at the iPhone commercials always demonstrating it.

What if iPhone OS 4 allows multi tasking, then it should'nt matter what network (GSM vs CDMA) it is on? Or would you still not be able to take a call, and use the Internet at the same time? I thought the lack of 3rd party multi tasking was the reason it could not due both on the CDMA network, and not the chip?
 
I doubt apple would let their phone be subject to a network that can't do voice and data at the same time. Just look at the iPhone commercials always demonstrating it.

The original iPhone can't talk and surf at the same time. Apple had no issues releasing that phone. They would do the same for verizon.
 
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