I'm curious to how much will be used with LTE. so I think for 3 months I may try out the 4gb...still not sure if I will even upgrade.
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Verizon: Full Price or Metered Data
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I'm curious to how much will be used with LTE. so I think for 3 months I may try out the 4gb...still not sure if I will even upgrade.
The only thing these shared plans do is force you to pay more to not use your phone for data... I mean. A single smart phone on Verizon with 2 GB of data is going to be $100 to start. That's not counting taxes and fees. What was it with unlimited data back in the day? $70, $80. Still a lot less for more. I don't see how any of these plans are advantageous. I'm hoping prepaid has some better deals by then.
If they're all so content to meter data usage just do it like texts are when you don't have a texting plan. Say $10 per GB. It comes out to $10 per GB once you buy 10 GB for $100 but you have to buy that huge pool to make it that economical.
If they're all so content to meter data usage just do it like texts are when you don't have a texting plan. Say $10 per GB. It comes out to $10 per GB once you buy 10 GB for $100 but you have to buy that huge pool to make it that economical.
Makes sense rather have plenty of cap room than get hit with those crazy overages. My area doesn't quite have 4g LTE yet so that sucks but also makes me not worry about the 2gb cap either.
I will pay full price, no question. Will not let them win at their own game. I feel in automobiles in the very near future that telematics will play a huge roll piggybacking off of the iPhone and this will cause exponential use of data. If they do force me to tiered data, I will resort to a Blackberry or v710 Motorola. And yes, I have carefully thought this through.
The kicker is, they already have won. There is nothing forcing them to keep honoring your unlimited plan month after month, year after year; once you are out of contract, they are not bound by said contract either. Sooner or later unlimited will really truly be gone. Without subsidizing the cost of your next phone you have just eliminated all risk for Verizon.
To an extent, yes. But I am not going to purchase the hardware from them to allow them to get the margin from it either.
Once I get a car that uses data for navigation and radio, this will be useful, and I hope to get one in the not so distant future.
If they do force a plan change, I have zero problems of dropping them for another carrier that certainly will not be at&t.
i bet you have a family plan to and send a lot of money to Verizon every month
i'm planning on doing something like this if i like the new Galaxy note
In reading your posts, it sounds like "it blows" for YOUR SITUATION. While I'm sorry that you are in the situation you are in (what with your sister using up data like it's going out of style) that really isn't Verizon's fault. It sounds like someone either needs to set your sister up so that she connects to free wifi whenever possible, teach her that data costs money and needs to be regulated, or simply switch her to a phone that does not use data.
For a lot of other people, the tiered data plan will actaully SAVE money. When I look back at our (my wife and I) data usage since october of 2010, I find that our average is .6 GB COMBINED and we peaked at no more than 1.5 GB COMBINED at most.
So while I can be mad at the prospect of losing my unlimited data... I have to ask myself "Who's more at fault in this situation?" Is it Verizon for "pulling the rug out from under people" and switching up the plans, forcing tiered plans or is it ME just being dumb and paying nearly $60/month for the last two years for something that I've NEVER used and always had "just in case"?
I'm starting to think I'm the dummy here...
No what blows is Verizon keeps changing their "stuff".
At first, unlimited data, yay!
Then, no unlimited anymore but you can keep it if you already had it.
Now, no unlimited and if you want to keep it, pay full price for your devices.
Later, no unlimited at all, sorry about that.
When I was told by a rep over a year ago I would be able to keep it forever AND use subsidized upgrades then I should be able to.
if a bunch of crazies didn't use up ridiculous amounts of data compared to everyone else then it might still be here
I understand your point.
However if you think about it... Verizon *is* a business and they *do* try to keep up with changes in technology/marketplace/government regulations. If you think back, you used to have to PAY for a BLOCK OF TEXT messages and if (or I should say when) you went over, it was some asinine amount of money per text.
Now, we look back at that and laugh cause they've basically done away with limits on text messages and those that are still on a tiered text plan have quite a large limit so it's now a non-issue.
My point is, if Verizon stayed stagnant with their plans (or"stuff"), everyone would lose.
On the surface, it stinks. It really does. Who wants to go from "I can have as much as I want, whenever I want it" to "I can only have x amount"? Nobody. But to better understand the reason for the changes you have to look at the big picture AND you have to look at the changes as it will impact all customers.
The big picture is that there is give and take. Verizon as a company incurs different costs. As technology evolves, it costs them LESS to provide certain services (i.e. voice communication/talking) than it used to. It also costs them MORE to provide services built on newer technology (i.e. 4G). The changes that are made in the plans are the direct result of this.
Additionally, you have to consider that Verizon is not dumb. They wouldn't make this change if it were going to adversely impact the majority of it's users. Most people are probably like me... dummys that have been paying for unlimited data month after month but have NEVER used it and could have been on a 2 GB plan for the last 2 years and been just fine...
(disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Verizon.)
Leonard1818 said:
Yep, I agree with this. I use the crap out of my iphone, so does my wife. We were both on the old unlimited plan, and we would netflix on occasion, pandora whenever we wanted, browse for hours a day, and gave no effort of caring whether we were in wifi or not.
I wanted to switch to the new plan so that I had unlimited voice and free tethering. Before I did, I had them check our data. He said that we were at around 1.5gigs per month combined. I even had him go back to last December's bill, as we watched netflix and played pandora for 20 hours each way on our way to Miami and back, on top of our normal monthly usage, and we were still only at 2.5 gigs that month.
I got 4 gigs, because I figured $10 to double my limit was a fine deal. I don't anticipate ever touching it.
As much as you want for a decent amount of money to ungodly tiny limits for an asinine amount of money.
Verizon isn't adjusting to technology/market/government, they're being greedy.
I'm guessing that's the story for MOST people.
My wife and I both use and use and use without care and we STILL have never exceeded 2GB (as mentioned, max = 1.5 which happened probably twice and average is still .6).
I have wifi at home but I don't have it at my office per the security requirements of the company that I work for. Even still, I can listen to comedy specials on netflix, stream pandora (one) in the car on our 4 hour roundtrips home, do TONS of browsing and watch all the Break/CNN videos I want... I still come in low EVERY month. I can't anticipate a 4G iPhone drastically changing my data consumption habits but even if it did... let's say my part DOUBLED (so if I was using 300MB/month and my wife was using 300MB/month and my part doubled due to a 4G iPhone = 900MB/month) I would be well within the 2GB data plan that I'm intending to buy.
I figure I'll ask them if I can upgrade the data plan at any time (they've usually let people change their plans mid-cycle so long as they're INCREASING something) and assuming they will let me, I'll do the 2GB plan. I think the "overage" charge is an automatic $10 for 1GB. So even if we go over 2GB a month or two, no problems. If we do it consistantly, I'll call and have it bumped to 4GB for the both of us.
If I go with the 2GB shared plan and make it work, it's going to save me probably $10-15 per month over what I currently pay. It may not sound like a lot but it is to me! Heck, that's the difference between cloth and leather seats in a new car (considering a 5 year loan).
Well, I suppose I'm not going to win here...
Either way, I think if they were simply being greedy there are many other ways to jack up prices for the same service (read: Time Warner Cable).
The FACT is that the market is changing. with X amount of Verizon customers being iPhone users and the new iPhone incorporating 4G technology (yeah yeah, it's not out yet but we know what's up), they are simply changing their pricing structure to better fit the market as they see it.
I liken it to places that offer an "all you can eat" buffet. They know that 99% of the people who come in are NOT going to consume more food than the flat fee they are paying to eat. Sure there's going to be that 1% that will cause them a loss. But the other 99% more than make up for it. Now imagine if that 1% grew... let's say something changes and now many more people are able to consume much greater amounts of food. Well, the owner of the joint isn't going to just sit there and let that 1% of people that they took a small loss on grow to 5%...10%...20%.... they're going to start regulating.
Perhaps they put in place a rule that says for X dollars, you can make Y number of trips up to the buffet (I've actaully been to places like this... It was more of the honor system but you get the drift)... this is going to regulate the losses they are taking on those that would be able to consume a greater amount of food than what their flat fee would cover.
I would personally prefer this "limited number of trips up to the buffet" option versus an overall price increase. Why punish the 80%, 90%, 95% of the people who DON'T consume more just to minimize the loss taken for the growing number of people who DO consume more.
Maybe my analogy sucks. They usually do
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.co...oductDetails.action?productName=usagecontrols
It's not free, but it sounds like part of the options your family needs to consider. I believe it can be set per phone, and adjusted when you want. I know ATT's version of this can, I've watched a friend play with the app.
I honestly don't believe they are making any more (or less) whether you buy it (speaking iPhone here) directly from them or not. If they are, it is a ridiculously negligible mount I would guess. Anyway, they make their money on monthly plans, not iPhone hardware sales. If you really want to stick it to them, leave their services. Otherwise they are laughing all the way to the bank.
I like how you just implied that anyone who would need more than 5 gigs of data must have something wrong with them, or not have full grasp of their faculties otherwise such a thing wouldn't happen.
Then you need to stop blatantly wasting vast amounts of data. If you give up your subsidy, you are effectively paying around $50/mo for unlimited data, vs. $30 for 2GB.
It's about $450 or ~$20/mo depending on whether you're looking at the New iPhone or an SGS III. You should try math sometime.
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They could be fully aware and just blatantly wasting and abusing the data. That's the only other possibility. This is the reason we can't have unlimited. People slurping so much.
Why is it that you seem to think that using something that you are paying to use, that is called "unlimited" is slurping so much?
And no mater how much I use, how do you know that it is "Wasted"?
But what else is one to do? You are probably right - there probably is little margin in the hardware but when they have the best service in the area it will take a good nudge to cause me to change. Tiered data will be that nudge. AT&T would be the last carrier I would go to, so Sprint or T-Mobile would be the other two options, unless US Cellular gets the device. I am not an Apple fanboy, but I do think the iPhone is one of the best designed handsets on the market in regards to support and reliability, so I would want to stick with it if I did move.
I have an unlimited Aircard with them too which I am sure they have made a great deal of revenue on, but so have I with my work so it's a wash I suppose.