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So from February until now... Verizon's so-called "unlimited" would let you use 23GB of data before it throttled. That honestly wouldn't have bothered me. I only have an 8GB plan now... so 23GB would be a bonus.

But now... this new so-called "unlimited" won't let me watch full HD video AT ALL on my phone. It's not even an option. Every video will be restricted in this way.

Yikes!
 
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That's like when insurance companies raise their deductible with a release saying, "We're doing this to encourage our members to be healthier." Really? How altruistic!
Ridiculous. Their network is just fine, they're just raising the prices for the heck of it.
 
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I guess I'm keeping my 16gb + 4gb for life + rollover, at least I know I have HD streaming and tethering within my GB allotment. I can't deal with the poor reception on Tmobile, but I'm tempted to switch back to ATT, at least they give somewhat of a crap and released their protection against spam calls. My god, but Verizon is DEAD last in actually caring about their customers.
 
That's $40 more than my T-Mobile unlimited plan... That's crazy, they're in a totally different world lol...

For those of us that travel across the 48 states, Verizon is the ONLY carrier that has service coast to coast. But at the beginning of my next cycle I'll switch to the unlimited plan and drop my 50 dollar a month century link. That's the best I can do until I stop driving across the country.
 
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Verizon: The Un-Unlimited Carrier.
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I’d switch to unlimited immediately if Verizon applied my 23% corporate discount to the unlimited plan.
What's interesting is they still show the corporate discount percentage on my account page, but it isn't applied to this plan.
 
Forget the part about gimmicky versions of "unlimited" data, what the ********* is this limit to 480p??? It's 2017 not 2001.

This is coming from one of the companies who received billions to rollout a fibre network that wouldn't struggle in the slightest ****ing bit to make 4K possible at great data transfer rates.

And the head of the FCC wants to help their lobbyists protect them by shafting net neutrality?

This isn't outright insulting. It's hostile.
 
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I don't understands why everyone is complaining. No one is forcing you to move to these plans. If you have the Unlimted plan released in February, you are grandfathered in. There are still people in the original Email & Data plan (original unlimted, before data was in demand) so I don't know why people are panicking. This would only affect new customers so I don't understand how this will make people switch carriers. If you find another carrier that better suites your need, switch and stop complaining about Verizon. I like my services to work when I need them, so I don't care if I have to pay more than other carriers. It costs to build and maintain a network. Keep in mind that your needs don't represent the needs of everyone else.
 
To get the same service as Verizon "beyond unlimited" on t-mobile you would have to pay the extra $10 a month per line putting at the same price as Verizon. Not saying I like the new plans on any carrier they are all nickel and diming us!!! Really just something to think about.

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Which is I am switching to T-Mobile. One carrier that is on track with their services offered, affordable and straight forward with their pricing with vastly improving coverage.
 
WHAT? I had to check twice to make sure that I read it correctly. Is that really what kind of mobile network speeds you get in Finland?
Depending on your location, 50-200Mbps. I get around 70-80Mbps at our cabin and near max speed at our home.

It's not perfect but I was amazed at how bad the pricing was for cellular services in the US. After all you have extremely high density in larger cities compared to us and as such the cost of having a cellular network there should be considerably lower than here.

As for the guy who said "But your country is tiny", comparatively our distances here are about the same if you take into account the population and the size of the country - we even have similar commuter distances (I personally drive around 40-50,000km each year just to work and back)
 
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I don't understands why everyone is complaining. No one is forcing you to move to these plans. If you have the Unlimted plan released in February, you are grandfathered in. There are still people in the original Email & Data plan (original unlimted, before data was in demand) so I don't know why people are panicking. This would only affect new customers so I don't understand how this will make people switch carriers. If you find another carrier that better suites your need, switch and stop complaining about Verizon. I like my services to work when I need them, so I don't care if I have to pay more than other carriers. It costs to build and maintain a network. Keep in mind that your needs don't represent the needs of everyone else.

Because the article says that the video resolution restriction will affect EVERYONE, even people who joined prior.

They bait and switched us. PERIOD. I was explicitly told this would not happen, and it hasn't even been a year and they are already screwing customers over.

I am gone when they do this. Even if I don't notice any difference in video quality. I won't stand for corporate nonsense like this.

Verizon: this is why you have to hire so many lawyers to deal with so much regulation: you fools bring it upon yourselves.
 
Thats not hard to do when your entire home country of Finland is about the size of California and only has a population of 5.5 million. Verizon covers the entire US and has 146 million SUBSCRIBERS. That's right, they have 26x the amount of subscribers as your country has people. I don't even like Verizon (I was with them for 10 years and now am on T-mobile) but your comparison is ridiculous.

The comparison doesn't seem ridiculous to me. The average population density of Finland is around 40 people/sq mi. In the US, that number is about 100 people/ sq mi (2.5x higher). By your argument, service should be cheaper in the US.
 
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Now let's see how bad AT&T can screw over its mobile customers when they launch their "me too" response!

AT&T typically doesn't follow suit when other carriers do dumb **** like this. (When T-mobile throttled video quality, AT&T's big thing was saying how they let you use your data how you'd like.)

But if AT&T pulls some BS like this, I'll be at the T-mobile store the next day.
 
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If T-Mobile coverage is decent-good in your area and the majority of your time is spent where you live I’d suggest giving a serious look at T-Mobile’s offerings.

The difference in pricing is significant.
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Glad I left them years ago! T-Mobile is great!
I hopped on a few months ago.

Got all of my iPhones upgraded to the 7’s and after all the promos and discounts I get 3 lines of unlimited everything including tethering for $80 flat.

Coverage in my area seems even a little better than att was for me.
 
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I don't understands why everyone is complaining. No one is forcing you to move to these plans. If you have the Unlimted plan released in February, you are grandfathered in. There are still people in the original Email & Data plan (original unlimted, before data was in demand) so I don't know why people are panicking. This would only affect new customers so I don't understand how this will make people switch carriers. If you find another carrier that better suites your need, switch and stop complaining about Verizon. I like my services to work when I need them, so I don't care if I have to pay more than other carriers. It costs to build and maintain a network. Keep in mind that your needs don't represent the needs of everyone else.

Seriously, its like you don't even read.

Everyone means EVERYONE, gUDP, nUDP EVERYONE! how much more clearer is that?! lol.
And dont start with that capitalist 'it costs money, blah blah' rhetoric, you clearly didn't even understand the concept. You should probably invest your capital in education bud LMAO!
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AT&T typically doesn't follow suit when other carriers do dumb **** like this. (When T-mobile throttled video quality, AT&T's big thing was saying how they let you use your data how you'd like.)

But if AT&T pulls some BS like this, I'll be at the T-mobile store the next day.
you can almost guarantee they will, they take their cues from Verizon like clockwork haha.
 
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Yesterday I drove from Carbondale IL to Chicago and had no service or calls only service with T-Mobile about 80% of the time. My friend with Verizon had full LTE coverage the entire way. There's more to compare than just the unlimited data package.
I drove through the mountains of northeast and north Georgia on Monday to see the solar eclipse. My previous experience with AT&T in the mountains was bad. I switched to T-Mobile from AT&T in February 2017 due to AT&T wishing to rip me off while I was about to travel to Canada.

I love T-Mobile. While in Canada, on two occasions now (both are 10-day long) I had amazing coverage with LTE and full speed tethering everywhere. First time I was in Toronto and second time in Quebec's most remote areas. Never one time was I without signal.

I suspected that T-Mobile would be bad in mountains of Georgia and got a prepaid Verizon SIM for $40 with a 30-day coverage and 3 GB data just in case. During the eclipse, I had a similar coverage between Verizon and T-Mobile. (I had two iPhones so I could compare in real time.). On the way back I got in so much traffic that we sat for hours barely moving. Both carriers showed strong signal but data was unusable on both carriers. Verizon phone couldn't make calls either - all circuits are busy message. T-Mobile was able to make calls with good quality. Then, I got out of traffic by turning west and drove through high-elevation mountain roads. I spent 2.5 hours going through the mountains. At times both phones lost signal completely. Most of the time, both phones had signal. There were a few times when Verizon had signal but T-Mobile didn't - maybe a mile or two of the road. However, when that happened, Verizon's signal didn't work with data.

So, here are my conclusions from this unscientific and empirical test. Verizon still has better coverage than T-Mobile in rugged US areas but just barely. Where T-Mobile has coverage, the LTE data speeds are significantly better than those of Verizon - sometimes by an order of multitude. Verizon doesn't seem to have as much density in their capacity as T-Mobile does. When thousands of devices end up communicating with the same tower, Verizon's ability to connect calls melts down way before the same happens with T-Mobile.

I've already traveled with my T-Mobile phones through rural Alabama, rural Panhandle Florida and stayed on Santa Rosa Island (Pensacila Beach). T-Mobile works all the way there even off the beaten path in rural Alabama and Florida. T-Mobile works everywhere in Atlanta metro.

So far I am extremely happy with T-Mobile. I am still a little leery going to the mountains in the US with T-Mobile, but everywhere else (including Canada), T-Mobile is phenomenal. And did I say that the coverage in Canada is amazing and costs absolutely nothing additional on top of my regular monthly service? I'm paying $100 including all fees and taxes for 3 lines. Each line has 31 GB of unthrottled data. How cool is this? T-Mobile is the only carrier that's doing things right in the US.
 
So I just had a look at the new plans, which are live. For the new plans, they have done away with the account access fee and line access fee. It's now $40 or $50 per line to add a line (beyond 4 lines) depending on the plan. It used to be you could add a line for the $20 line access fee. This is crazy...I'm glad they grandfathered in the old plans.
 
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What does this look like for a family of four? Is it just $75x4?

Currently with TMO, and generally happy, though my wife has had some reception issues at work which might require her to either get an additional work line (that work pays for but she doesnt want to lose her number OR carry two phones) or deal with it.

We currently pay $120 plus taxes with TMO, but the way iot is looking that would go up to around $160, taxes included, if we wanted to get the new iPhones without paying up front for all of them due to it looking like they require the ONE plan for their "free" deals.

EDIT: Looks like $40 a line for four lines. Wondering if a Best Buy discount is a possibility. This could actually be tempting...
 
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