Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Verizon iPhone to Launch in January 2011?

Just a bit more fire to the fuel.....

A January launch could actually make sense. AT&T will have a bunch of folks who are due for upgrades in January, but those same folks, while eligible for early upgrade with AT&T (18 to 21 months in) will not have their 2-year contracts completed and would still be subject to early-term fees for switching carriers.

Most who would be due for their contract to be up were given a chance to re-up that contract in 2010 with iPhone-4 and will be locked in with new higher early-term fees for two more years.

Once March rolls around an AT&T users who contract have expired will be anxious to see what iPhone-5 looks like on AT&T and would probably hold off switching to Verizon.

AT&T's actions certainly support a January Verizon launch. Surely they have offered early upgrades every year, but this year's seems the most extensive and is coupled with new higher early-term fees.

If AT&T has played their cards correctly they will limit a Verizon iPhone launch to Verizon customers who have been waiting for the iPhone and will have kept the number of AT&T defectors/escapees to a minimum.

NOTE: I figure AT&T views them as "defectors" while the user views himself as an "escapee".
 
macnchiefs said:
VoRA does not exist. Voice doesn't traverse the CDMA network using EVDO. It uses 1xRTT. The solution to get voice and data running simultaneously has nothing to do with EVDO Rev-A, it only includes 1xRTT as voice will still traverse the 1x portion of the network and not EVDO. Thats why it doesn't exist.

If for some reason Qualcomm decided to build another solution on top of their 1X advanced solution just for Verizon(would be absolutely crazy to do this…) then you would be right but in all likelihood it's not going to happen. Until then VoRA does NOT exist.

So yes, regardless of what its called it is possible to do. Just so you know now that it's not called VoRA and has nothing to do with the Rev A network stop calling it that. When I drive somewhere I don't saying I'm walking even though I may get to the same location... big difference. Just call it SVDO and you'll make Qualcomm happier

http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/1XAdvanced_Four-Fold_Increase_050409.pdf
Click to expand...

Read what I typed again. I know that CURRENTLY voice uses the 1x voice path. VZW's solution is VoRA. VoRA is being TESTED. Voice is being packetized at the handset (VoIP) and being sent via the EvDO RAN network to the IMS packet core. This is VoRA. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with 1x. The difference between this and say something like Skype is that it's being done natively by the handset and not by a 3rd party application.

The plan is to deploy it as part of the eHRPD packet network that will give VZW the transition path to LTE data and VoLTE.


http://www.qualcomm.es/common/documents/articles/VoIP_over_EV-DO_RevA.pdf
 
macintologist said:
So Apple is gonna make a whole different CDMA phone just for Verizon? Good luck with the resale value on that black sheep crappy iPhone that won't work anywhere else in the world except on Verizon.

Unlike the GSM iPhones we have now that can be unlocked and used anywhere in the world, CDMA doesn't use SIM cards so it will be locked to Verizon permanently. Have fun trying to sell those crappy phones people, have fun.
Click to expand...

You can unlock an AT&T iPhone without voiding the warranty?
 
I sometimes wonder if apple is doing the rumors. After 3 years, they have to figure the people that could switch have (a year after the first 2year cycle) and the rest have to stay with other cell companies for other reasons (coverage, work ... etc). Why not float the rumor to kill some driod sales for fun. He's not happy about google so why not start a rumor that the iphone is coming without outright lying. Maybe some will wait a while on that driod purchase.

Kinda funny if you think about it.
 
You people are retarded

Lol! this is the most fun i have had reading on this site since yesterdays announcement of the iphone on Verizon in late fall.
 
Getting tired of these Verizon rumors? You people are trying to put words like it's coming up on a daily basis.

There hasn't been a rumor EVERYDAY. Don't like it? Then shut the **** up and go somewhere else...trolls...

Verizon better coverage.
ATT joke.
Verizon already has more people than ATT and nothing will go wrong with more people converting.

ATT people shouldnt get their hopes up about letting people go to verizon so their service will be better. It already sucks.

Whoever said that Verizon's christmas commercials was bashing the iPhone is wrong. It ACTUALLY complimented the iPhone and bashed ATT.

"Merry Christmas and a happy 4th of July...you filthy animals."
 
bergmef said:
I sometimes wonder if apple is doing the rumors. After 3 years, they have to figure the people that could switch have (a year after the first 2year cycle) and the rest have to stay with other cell companies for other reasons (coverage, work ... etc). Why not float the rumor to kill some driod sales for fun. He's not happy about google so why not start a rumor that the iphone is coming without outright lying. Maybe some will wait a while on that driod purchase.

Kinda funny if you think about it.
Click to expand...

I think it is more tenable to think verizon is spreading the rumors to keep those iPhone ogling verizon customers from switching. This is obviously not a new rumor, it has been there for more than two years, long before Verizon was immaculately conceived with DROID.
 
So you wont believe it until Apple confirms? When was the last time Apple confirmed anything that was 7 weeks out, let alone 7 months out??

Apple sold 1.7mil iPhones in first week on ATT. It'll be 2.5 on VZW in the first week. Wait and see.
 
It will be interesting to see if this happens. I can imagine Version being the first company to include Face-Time over it's 3g service. That alone would bring people away from AT&T.
 
VoodooDaddy said:
So you wont believe it until Apple confirms? When was the last time Apple confirmed anything that was 7 weeks out, let alone 7 months out??

Apple sold 1.7mil iPhones in first week on ATT. It'll be 2.5 on VZW in the first week. Wait and see.
Click to expand...

The iphone actually. Announced at macworld in Jan and released in June. That's about 6 months-ish

I still won't believe it till I can pre-order.
 
VoodooDaddy said:
So you wont believe it until Apple confirms? When was the last time Apple confirmed anything that was 7 weeks out, let alone 7 months out??
Click to expand...

I won't believe iphone is coming to Verizon until Apple announces it. This particular rumor has been around with specific dates suggested for years. It's a running joke now really.

Have you ever hear the story of the boy who cried wolf? I know I've been burnt a couple times now having read a rumor here or elsewhere that iphone is coming to Verizon in a certain month or quarter of the calendar year. I've then told my friends the news only to see no iphone come.

Why would I ever pass one of these rumors along again? Why would anyone hearing me repeat one of these rumors to them again believe me? They would just laugh like I do when I read it here.

Until Apple announces it, I don't believe it. And if that means I don't get to know about it 7 months ahead of time, then so be it.

It seems to me "iphone" rumors are not as reliable as "mac" rumors.
 
longball11 said:
Getting tired of these Verizon rumors? You people are trying to put words like it's coming up on a daily basis.

There hasn't been a rumor EVERYDAY. Don't like it? Then shut the **** up and go somewhere else...trolls...

"
Click to expand...

I'm so tired of these lame Verizon iphone rumors.
 
Taevt said:
That would be nifty, would still use AT&T though. Oddly enough, I get MUCH better coverage with AT&T where I am.

Would still be cool if they had it on Verizon though. If only for the fact it would be interesting to see Android vs iPhone sales figures if they're both on the same carrier.
Click to expand...

As popular as iPhones are today if Apple had spent the time to support CDMA and the production capacity to add the other GSM carriers in the US, most of the other smartphones would die a rather quick death. RIMs stranglehold on business users would stay but I bet many of the other devices would see significantly lower sales.

Cheers,
 
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...sted_cdma_iphone_but_no_verizon_deal_yet.html

Apple has already built a Verizon-compatible CDMA iPhone that is being "perfected all the time," but it's not likely that a formal deal with Verizon is in place, according to a new rumor.

Responding to this week's report from Bloomberg which claimed that Apple will launch a Verizon iPhone in January of 2011, Jim Dalrymple of The Loop shared some information on the subject Thursday. He likened the CDMA iPhone allegedly being tested and perfected at Apple to the Intel-powered version of Mac OS X that the company kept under wraps for years.

"Apple already has a Verizon compatible iPhone," Dalrymple said. "It's not that they have to rush around Apple HQ and start building the thing for a January launch with Verizon."

But he went on to say that he does not believe that a deal with Verizon has been finalized. He said that it's likely the two companies are in negotiations, and the leak provided to Bloomberg may have been another negotiating tactic.

"I'm sure the negotiations are very tense, and I believe, ongoing," he wrote.

Also this week, John Gruber of Daring Fireball said that a new Verizon-compatible phone would not be a holdup for a potential deal with Apple. He, too, said that the CDMA iPhone is similar to the Intel-compatible version of Mac OS X.

"It's all strategy and negotiations," Gruber said. "I wouldn't have been shocked if they'd gone to Verizon a year ago, and wouldn't be shocked if it doesn't happen for another two or three years. But whenever the time comes, hardware won't hold it up."
 
Steve Jobs kind of gave a hint already...

Im pretty sure that this time around its actually going to happen because if you can remember back when Steve Jobs announced the new iPhone 4 and its FaceTime feature, while explaining that its only going to work over wifi at the moment, he said that they are working with carriers so that people can use it without wifi. Well why would they have to work with "carriers" if right now theyre only on ATT? hmm
read between the lines people
ohh and btw of course neither Apple nor Verizon will confirm this because Apple wants more people to buy the iPhone on ATT right now and Verizon wants more people to buy Android Powered Phones
ohh and a few months back there was already like a 1% iPhone activity on the Verizon network, so people, get ready but its going to happen
 
ikadeem said:
Im pretty sure that this time around its actually going to happen because if you can remember back when Steve Jobs announced the new iPhone 4 and its FaceTime feature, while explaining that its only going to work over wifi at the moment, he said that they are working with carriers so that people can use it without wifi. Well why would they have to work with "carriers" if right now theyre only on ATT? hmm
read between the lines people
ohh and btw of course neither Apple nor Verizon will confirm this because Apple wants more people to buy the iPhone on ATT right now and Verizon wants more people to buy Android Powered Phones
ohh and a few months back there was already like a 1% iPhone activity on the Verizon network, so people, get ready but its going to happen
Click to expand...

because att is not the only carrier with the phone!
 
STC1709 said:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...sted_cdma_iphone_but_no_verizon_deal_yet.html

Apple has already built a Verizon-compatible CDMA iPhone that is being "perfected all the time," but it's not likely that a formal deal with Verizon is in place, according to a new rumor.

Responding to this week's report from Bloomberg which claimed that Apple will launch a Verizon iPhone in January of 2011, Jim Dalrymple of The Loop shared some information on the subject Thursday. He likened the CDMA iPhone allegedly being tested and perfected at Apple to the Intel-powered version of Mac OS X that the company kept under wraps for years.

"Apple already has a Verizon compatible iPhone," Dalrymple said. "It's not that they have to rush around Apple HQ and start building the thing for a January launch with Verizon."

But he went on to say that he does not believe that a deal with Verizon has been finalized. He said that it's likely the two companies are in negotiations, and the leak provided to Bloomberg may have been another negotiating tactic.

"I'm sure the negotiations are very tense, and I believe, ongoing," he wrote.

Also this week, John Gruber of Daring Fireball said that a new Verizon-compatible phone would not be a holdup for a potential deal with Apple. He, too, said that the CDMA iPhone is similar to the Intel-compatible version of Mac OS X.

"It's all strategy and negotiations," Gruber said. "I wouldn't have been shocked if they'd gone to Verizon a year ago, and wouldn't be shocked if it doesn't happen for another two or three years. But whenever the time comes, hardware won't hold it up."
Click to expand...

now Apple just has to get verizon to buy it at a price they want. Verizon has the upper hand here
 
Ummm, surely the iPhone will come to Verizon because all this freaks wanted so bad, I'm with the ones that are already tired of people complaining about AT&T's network coverage, just bring the damn phone so that these lunatics can stop talking about ATT. I'm anxiously waiting for the network problems (let's be realistic, Verizon is not God)

Lastly, I hate Verizon employees (not Verizon itself), with this BS about Android. And I'm pretty convinced that the iPhone will change Verizon in many ways.
 
iPhone will not come to verizon in 2011. Apple and At&t have a contract until end of 2011. Apple will not break the contract, otherwise they'll get sued hard. But guess what, 2012 is definitely happening. You can tell that apple didn't sign additional exclusivicity contract as At&t killed the unlimited iPad data plan and put a 2gb limit on iPhone data plan. I believe AT&T did this to hurt apple, but in the long run this may hurt AT&T. They should have learned not to go against apple, look what happened to adobe and flash.

However, I think the iPad could come the Verizon this year, as that is not part of the contract with AT&t. That's why we have been hearing all these verizon rumors. Another suprising thing apple could do is to enable cell phone capability on the iPad when it comes to verizon. This could really hurt AT&T.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back