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Good on VZW trying to screw over customers yet again, this coming from a longtime VZW customer that is *STILL* throttling (pun intended) legacy UL data plans under contract!

Pretty much a smart business move on their part IMO, lock in customers now before this fall and customers get wise to the soon-to-be-new T-Mobile (no, not with Sprint attached). T-Mo already has dialed in Band 12's 700MHz and some of Band 4/66 around the US that's been part of their interop agreement with ATTWS and USCC, and they're starting to deploy 600MHz here and there - I'm already seeing T-Mo working in rural area in the PNW where only VZW was king, and there's already a few MHS units (including my Nighthawk MHS) and Android phones out there. At a job site in fairly rural - as in there are zero cities within a 25-mile radius of hilly, rough terrain - I can now tap into 3 antenna arrays with a T-Mo Android handset but only one fairly weak antenna array with VZW.

I'll be interested to see how VZW ups their service once they shut down 1XRTT and their lame CDMA network early next year, when I'll be out of contract with them - I will be ordering a T-Mo "Test Drive" handset later this year. I sincerely hope that Apple steps up with carrier aggregation and 600MHz compatibility with their next chipset...
 
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There is nothing at all complicated about T-Mobile's plan. Stop grouping them with Verizon and AT&T in that regard.

So glad I left Verizon for T-Mobile a few years ago. Would never even consider going back.
 
This does not happen only in US. In some countries you getting throttled while other countries have fair usage policies. For example

Plusnet (UK) https://www.plus.net/help/legal/mobile-fair-usage-policy/
Vodafone (AU) https://www.vodafone.com.au/about/legal/standard-form-of-agreement
Swisscom (CH) https://www.swisscom.ch/en/business/sme/help/loesung/fair-use-policies.html
Warehouse Mobile (NZ) https://www.warehousemobile.co.nz/terms/fair-use-policy/
Naked Mobile (Arizona, USA) https://nakedmobile.com/policies-terms-conditions/fair-use-policy/

Most of them call their Internet "unlimited" even if they have a clause which protects other customers from a few data suckers which could throttle a cell tower significantly.
I think in many countries (Switzerland included) most of the customers know they have unlimited Internet but keep in mind that if you would use the hotspot feature of your iPhone as a router for the entire family all of the time, it's possible that your mobile provider will contact you to query why your internet usage suddenly increased from May to June by (let's say) 120 percent.
Swisscom (biggest mobile provider in Switzerland with over 6.5 million customers) say they are only a couple of dozen customers wich don't respect the fair use clause so they have to throttle or merge there mobile contract. And I heard that you have to use around 80GB of cellular data per month to get in trouble.
 
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Unlimited....
“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”
 
None of these plans are unlimited, but instead marketing nonsense. If they are going to offer a truly unlimited plan then do so and quit dancing around it. If there were two unlimited one would be US only and another that was world wide which is the only place where higher costs kick in.
 
*they're
/yeah, about that stupid

How stupid do these companies think their customers are?

Wow, Anglophile - "their" is correct. You went straight to stupid without reading the full sentence! The cellular companies' customers are referred as "their" in the question, bonehead. "They're" expands to "they are" genius; fit that into my sentence and sound it out ten times, maybe you will get it. It is not latin; you will not get that reference either.

Notice nobody else jumped in foolishly to "correct" or mock the sentence form? Neither did anyone like your "smart" correction!
 
Like All You Can Eat buffets, actually mean portion control through plate size and portion control of expensive items like beef and lobster. All marketing BS. Reality, “the devil is in the details”, period. Read the fine print before agreeing. ;)
 
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That was kind of the point of what I posted... How stupid are the customers? Stupid enough to make that kind of correction, which is why I put "/yeah, about that stupid" at the bottom. RIIIGHT over your head. KPandian1 at least got the joke.

"How stupid do these companies think their customers are?" and "How stupid are the customers?" are sentences with different meaning.

No, I didn't get the joke and did not see the insult earlier because this was a busy thread at the time.

The customers are being taken for a ride by the cellular companies - I won't call them stupid.
 
This article is misleading. Those are REAL data caps. Those are the amounts that you can use irregardless of network congestion. After that, IF there is network congestion, then you may be slowed down some. I'm on the Beyond unlimited plan, and I've used over 45GB one month just to see how it would work, and I wasn't slowed down once. So, I'm not complaining. They have the network with the capacity to keep going. Just because you get slowed down if there's network congestion doesn't mean it's not unlimited. That's absurd. You aren't charged overages, and you can keep using it. When the network becomes less congested, then you are back up to speed. Kind of like a highway that gets faster as rush hour starts to end....
 
I think its wrong to mark something as "Unlimited" if you still have a cap, weather users reach it, or not, is not an issue. Its just getting round the assumption. But we all do it today even ISP's

Since we cannot have truly unlimited, "grab-all-you can-eat" mobile carriers would no one can actually download 75-200Gig a month...

You could have "unlimited" as in truly unlimited, but you will run out of things to download... everyone will so why have it if (a. it will cost an $$$ to keep, and (b no one will ever use it.

so why not put a more generous cap that hopefully people *would* be able to get to

Besides, wouldn't you go for something that advertised as "Unlimited" rather than "a cap"
 
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un·lim·it·ed
adjective
  1. not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
Why are you guys conflating speed with amount? It is unlimited data, I’m at 160 GB on my beyond unlimited with 12 days left. I get depolarization and slower speeds in congested areas, but in non congested areas it’s full speed. Please continue...
 
so why not put a more generous cap that hopefully people *would* be able to get to

Besides, wouldn't you go for something that advertised as "Unlimited" rather than "a cap"

I think you lay your finger on the wound! :)
Let's say you have a unlimited plan for 12 months and you are using between 12GB and 16GB a month. Even if you have used more than average (let's say 22GB) in one month over all you should be fine with a 18GB or 20GB plan. But "20GB" seems less than "unlimited." But for a person who never uses the included data, this limited plan feels like unlimited.
 
There is nothing at all complicated about T-Mobile's plan. Stop grouping them with Verizon and AT&T in that regard.

So glad I left Verizon for T-Mobile a few years ago. Would never even consider going back.
Your legacy plan is a good deal no doubt. Someone signing up today not so much.
 
"How stupid do these companies think their customers are?" and "How stupid are the customers?" are sentences with different meaning.

No, I didn't get the joke and did not see the insult earlier because this was a busy thread at the time.

The customers are being taken for a ride by the cellular companies - I won't call them stupid.

I wasn’t insulting you. I was saying the cell companies think their customers are that stupid, not that they are. Ahh forget it.
 
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