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Carrier Verizon lost 95,000 phone customers in the first 3 months of 2014
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I don't care about their high horse, but I do care about getting some savings. The competition has already provided dividends, as it continues to heat up VZW will continue to offer incentives and promotions which will hopefully lower my bill
IMO Verizon and TMo are on opposite sides of this issue. Verizon has the network, but not the plans. TMo has the plans, but not the network. If you give each of them money, which situation is more likely to improve?
That's why I bit the bullet and went TMo.
Why would I want to tmo money if they don't have service where I need it?
They are a good bargain if their coverage aligns with the subscribers service requirements. As I travel all over the country I like to stack the deck in my favor for coverage.
Calling BS on this:
The Verizon site says 160 for access and it is an additional $ for data.
If you want the 10 gigs of data you are being charged an additional $90.
Seems like false advertising to me!
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Looking into that now, but I have some upgrades coming that I will want to use with the new iPhone6 possibly.
The Verizon site says 160 for access and it is an additional $ for data.
If you want the 10 gigs of data you are being charged an additional $90.
Seems like false advertising to me!
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Looking into that now, but I have some upgrades coming that I will want to use with the new iPhone6 possibly.
I understand that. What I'm saying is that for anyone who can deal with spotty coverage (like me) it's a better idea to put money into TMo because they're going to want to expand their network to get more customers.
Verizon, meanwhile, isn't going to change a damn thing as long as people pay for the service. So sticking with them and hoping the prices go down is basically crossing your fingers that enough OTHER people will jump ship and convince Verizon to make a change. Which, in your situation, is kinda necessary since you travel like crazy.
Just think of it like business. If people are paying for TMo, it's good business sense to add coverage. If people are paying for Verizon, it makes no sense to lower their rates. If anything, they'll try and keep going up.
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It's cheaper if you don't subsidize your device and use the whole "EDGE" thing.
I'm not sure I agree verizon is "coasting". Verizon is continuing to upgrade congested infrastructure, continuing to ensure lte is top notch across their entire footprint, and aggressively persuing VOLTE implementation. Plus other items I'm sure none of us know about.
Those complaining don't understand the concept of the new plans.
ATT and VERIZON are the exact same in terms of 10GB family plan.
The price is $160 for 4 lines if your bring your own smartphone or use the financing plans.
Basically $100 for plan + $15 per line.
The only carrier that is cheaper is TMOBILE.
The reason why so many are complaining about Verizon is because they don't grasp the idea on how these new plans work. You're paying a lot more because you are under the 2 year contract because you chose to buy a subsidized phone.
ATT and VERIZON are the exact same in terms of 10GB family plan.
The price is $160 for 4 lines if your bring your own smartphone or use the financing plans.
Basically $100 for plan + $15 per line.
The only carrier that is cheaper is TMOBILE.
The reason why so many are complaining about Verizon is because they don't grasp the idea on how these new plans work. You're paying a lot more because you are under the 2 year contract because you chose to buy a subsidized phone.
True, but this does nothing for me now since I am not buying all new phones.
unless I can change my plan if I buy only one phone with edge
I'm actually glad to see Verizon take a hit. I'm a former customer and left years ago for AT&T because Verizon has always been overpriced.
Funny how no one mentioned that we can thank John Legere for shaking up the mobile industry and bringing about much needed changes. I am on now on the 2 line $130 family share plan ($118 after a 22% employer discount) and my bill was $180 before Legere began his attack campaign on Verizon and AT&T.
You may not like Tmobile or not care for it but you can't deny that Legeres actions are saving non Tmobile customers money and I'm proof of that. It's also good to see Verizon is experiencing backlash because of Legere.
As for Verizon, good to see them eat crow for once.
Funny how no one mentioned that we can thank John Legere for shaking up the mobile industry and bringing about much needed changes. I am on now on the 2 line $130 family share plan ($118 after a 22% employer discount) and my bill was $180 before Legere began his attack campaign on Verizon and AT&T.
You may not like Tmobile or not care for it but you can't deny that Legeres actions are saving non Tmobile customers money and I'm proof of that. It's also good to see Verizon is experiencing backlash because of Legere.
As for Verizon, good to see them eat crow for once.
That's the point of the thing, though. They're offering cheaper plans to people who aren't getting a subsidized plan (keep in mind, the plan ALSO works if you just don't get any new phones at all). That IS a step in the right direction, it's just terribly limited.
I clearly have a vested interest in this comment, please post a link. Are you talking verizon or verizon wireless? Btw, I lived through hurricane sandy, two weeks without power. VZW was my lifeline, nothing bad to say about them.
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Umm, they are not eating crow, did you look at their revenues and profits?
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Bottom line is that Verizon is learning that their coverage alone is no longer leaps and bounds better than the others to the point where people are willing to pay their exorbitant prices. Carriers like T-Mobile have become "good enough" to where their lower rate plan prices have a lot of value with consumers.
Looks like Verizon is being forced off their high horse and having to wake up. Them losing customers is great news to me and consumers in general.
Looks like Verizon is being forced off their high horse and having to wake up. Them losing customers is great news to me and consumers in general.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...turf-campaign-to-end-nj-broadband-obligation/
Long story short, Verizon (not Wireless, admittedly) took a boatload of money from NJ in order to lay down broadband for the entire state by 2010 and then, after collecting however many billion dollars, didn't do it. Then, they fought to have the requirements of them lessened and furthered matters with an astroturf campaign bombarding the BPU with copypasta letters in "support" of Verizon.
Yeah it's not the Wireless half, but it's the same company, and it's just further proof that they're run by schmucks. TMo, for all their faults, are crazy in all the good ways and they're honestly trying to shake up the American telecom system. I support 'em and I'm fortunately in a place where I can sign up with them.
Yeah man, people voting with their wallets is the best way to show these companies.
I wonder how many will return to verizon? Those customers you never hear of.
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When you say they are run by schmucks you are referring to most of NJ elected officials. Right?
NJ officials do not discharge their job responsibilities to the betterment of the citizens of NJ. They faithfully discharge their duties to their biggest contributors. Can't blame verizon for trying, and the elected officials to let them off the hook. Nuff said.
I wonder how many will return to verizon? Those customers you never hear of.
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When you say they are run by schmucks you are referring to most of NJ elected officials. Right?
NJ officials do not discharge their job responsibilities to the betterment of the citizens of NJ. They faithfully discharge their duties to their biggest contributors. Can't blame verizon for trying, and the elected officials to let them off the hook. Nuff said.
In order to gain customers Verizon would have to offer better plans and this would start a price war with ATT Verizon is greedy and really doesn't care about the customer they only care about $$$$$ and if the customers have a "workable" alternative they're leaving
Losing customers for the first time in ages and forced to offer new plans similar to the competition? They are without a doubt eating crow.
So you're definition of crow is revenues of $30.82 bln vs $29.42 bln of a year ago?
Yep, they are without a doubt eating crow. Don't get me wrong, I'm not married to Verizon. TMO and Sprint due to coverage is a non-start. ATT might be a go after (I should say if) Verizon kicks me off my current plan. Until then, I'm happy with the service received vs price paid for service.
VZW
7.5 percent year-over-year increase in service revenues; 6.7 percent year-over-year increase in retail service revenues; 35.0 percent operating income margin; 52.1 percent segment EBITDA margin on service revenues (non-GAAP).
• Added 549,000 net retail connections, including 539,000 net retail postpaid connections; low retail postpaid churn of 1.07 percent; 103.3 million total retail connections; 97.3 million total retail postpaid connections.
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Having to do something against your wishes is the text book definition of eating crow. Their bottom line is irrelevant. You Verizon fanboys never cease to amaze me.
Ah, name calling. Gotta love it.
You VZW haters never cease to amaze me.For all I know VZW is happy these customers left.
Ah, name calling. Gotta love it.
For all I know VZW is happy these customers left.
I don't care either way, but this is so far from the truth. No company who wants to make money will be happy customers left. This isn't just Verizon, this is any company.
I7, no offense dude, but you are kind of a fanboy here. You just refuse to accept that VZW has any faults, it's almost like you know they aren't the best but you're trying to convince yourself that they're wonderful because they have your money.
Me, I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just following who gives me the best ratio of cost/service. Verizon lost that battle and TMo won it for the time being. If Verizon gets their act together, I'll hop right on board with their EDGE program and month-to-month plans. All I care about is good service and getting my money's worth. Verizon is a sheisty company that's riding high on their superior network and really doesn't give a damn about their customers.
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Yeah I don't think Verizon gives two ***** about what their customers say on message boards as long as they pay, and there's no such thing as a company that's happy to lose customers. This is just silly.
Me, I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just following who gives me the best ratio of cost/service. Verizon lost that battle and TMo won it for the time being. If Verizon gets their act together, I'll hop right on board with their EDGE program and month-to-month plans. All I care about is good service and getting my money's worth. Verizon is a sheisty company that's riding high on their superior network and really doesn't give a damn about their customers.
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Yeah I don't think Verizon gives two ***** about what their customers say on message boards as long as they pay, and there's no such thing as a company that's happy to lose customers. This is just silly.