Which means the FCC or the consumer can sue and very likely they'll [consumer] win.
But the FCC is run by a ex-Verizon employee, on a career break now. So, I'd wager that the FCC changes its rules rather than a lawsuit.
Which means the FCC or the consumer can sue and very likely they'll [consumer] win.
From my understanding, they will lock all phones for a specific amount of time, then unlock them. Even if they aren't paid off.Will Verizon lock up phones that are fully paid for? Or does this only apply to phones that are bought on an installment plan?
Considering this is going the happen this spring, my bet it will coincide with the Samsung S9 release.
According to article it's effective today.
I read it as being more concerned with shipments, or store stock, of not-yet-sold phones either "going missing", or being more forcefully stolen (those occasional highly publicized "smash and grab everything in two minutes" stories).
They can't. FCC rules regarding band C of the 700 MHz purchase requires them to have all phones unlocked.
I wonder if Apple will go along with this, or just decide to sell al versions, including the unlocked on, on launch day?
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"Later in the spring, though, smartphones will remain locked until unlocked by Verizon, and Verizon has not yet shared details on how long it will keep phones locked before offering to unlock them."
The big difference is if you activate now, it is unlocked immediately. This spring it could be months after activation. Just in time for the S9 release. It not only keeps your phone locked for at least a few months, you also will have to pay for their service too, whether you want to or not, otherwise you will be stuck with a locked phone. As of right now, you have to pay an activation fee, but you can cancel service and then go to another carrier. In this spring, not only will you have to pay the $30 activation fee, you will also have to pay for a few months of service, before you can get it unlocked, and then cancel service and go to a different carrier. It's all about the money, not about theft.And the first line you left out "As of today, Verizon devices will be locked to the Verizon network and unlocked as soon as a customer signs up for service and activates the phone."
What the later in the spring means is that they will then decide then what the standard unlock time will be like other carriers. I called a few Verizon places today
Ajit Pai's FCC isn't going to do anything about it and would likely just change the rules to suit His / Verizons interests.
This guy…Which means the FCC or the consumer can sue and very likely they'll [consumer] win.
All iPhones sold at the Apple Store are unlocked - there is no reason to be buying a Verizon phone to take it abroadAs a Verizon customer that is happy with the service, and getting an excellent discount through work, I am glad to see this. I am hopeful that the waiting period will be 90 days or less, and this should accomplish exactly what they're stating. When I worked at the Apple Store a few years back, scalpers lined up every day to buy as many Verizon models as we would sell, just to ship them overseas. This should help a lot more Verizon customers get the phones they want, and not have so many non-verizon users trying to take them to other networks.
This has nothing to do with a $30 activation fee. All other US carriers already lock your phones anyways.It's just another scam by Verizon. Just their way of getting you to pay a $30 activation fee before unlocking it.
Not on launch day.All iPhones sold at the Apple Store are unlocked - there is no reason to be buying a Verizon phone to take it abroad
It IS about the money. Come spring, you are forced to sign up for their service, and pay for a least a month or two of service, before the phone will be unlocked, allowing you to go to a different carrier. If I pay full price for the phone, I should not be held hostage by a carrier.This has nothing to do with a $30 activation fee. All other US carriers already lock your phones anyways.
Verizon doing something you don't like does not equate to a scam.It's just another scam by Verizon. Just their way of getting you to pay a $30 activation fee before unlocking it.
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The big difference is if you activate now, it is unlocked immediately. This spring it could be months after activation. Just in time for the S9 release. It not only keeps your phone locked for at least a few months, you also will have to pay for their service too, whether you want to or not, otherwise you will be stuck with a locked phone. As of right now, you have to pay an activation fee, but you can cancel service and then go to another carrier. In this spring, not only will you have to pay the $30 activation fee, you will also have to pay for a few months of service, before you can get it unlocked, and then cancel service and go to a different carrier. It's all about the money, not about theft.
It really isn't about theft. Telling us it is, is a scam.Verizon doing something you don't like does not equate to a scam.
Not another video! Please!!!!
Wow, Canada took one huge step forward this past year (finally) mandating all phones being sold be unlocked while the USA continues the tradition of lock it down...
Actually, it's not a scam. It IS about theft. I'm happy they are doing this. I'll feel much safer at work.It really isn't about theft. Telling us it is, is a scam.
From my understanding, they will lock all phones for a specific amount of time, then unlock them. Even if they aren't paid off.
If I pay for the phone outright, I should not be held hostage by a company that demands money from me to unlock it. That IS a scam.Well, I'm glad they are locking them. I work for Verizon and this past year has been TERRIBLE with robberies of Verizon stores. Mine just got robbed a few weeks ago. It sucks, and I hate having the phones locked, but if Verizon is going to unlock them without having to pay them off and automatically after a few months, I'm okay with that. At least I'll be safer at work and won't have to continue worrying if every shady looking customer is about to rob us. Speaking of, we actually have had a few people watch our store. We got security and one guy had the guts to ask if he had a gun and when his shift change was. Of course the security guy didn't tell him, and said he'd be more than happy to show him his gun. haha.
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Actually, it's not a scam. It IS about theft. Quick being a jerk about it. I'm happy they are doing this. I'll feel much safer at work.
That's interesting because I can afford Verizon and don't want it. They are greedy. Just because I can afford something doesn't mean I should pay more.The hatred toward Verizon is mainly due to jealousy of not being able to afford the service costs. Jealousy usually triggers the hatred. Just ignore the hatred comments. Fortunate for us for being able to afford Verizon and free from jealousy any hatred or trolling.
I believe it is about theft. Unless you are privy to information the rest of use aren't, you are just making a lot of verbal Verizon spit balls.It really isn't about theft. Telling us it is, is a scam.
Honestly, I don't care how you feel. I care about my safety. And you aren't held hostage...you have the choice to buy it at whatever carrier you want. Also, Verizon isn't requiring you to pay it off before it's unlocked....America, the land of cry babies.If I pay for the phone outright, I should not be held hostage by a company that demands money from me to unlock it. That IS a scam.
Also, maybe read the article...and a little bit about business. Why would Verizon sell you their inventory and not expect a little something in return. And again, according to CNET, Verizon will unlock it without it being paid off....If I pay for the phone outright, I should not be held hostage by a company that demands money from me to unlock it. That IS a scam.
Never buying through Verizon again. This isn't about criminals. It is about keeping customers on their network, and not selling a phone that could be taken somewhere else.
From the article:The problem is there is no incentive for Verizon to remain great if people can't switch to another carrier.