So if i buy a new car full price from Ford, they should be allowed to lock it until I pay for an activation fee? America, the land of lemmings who are too stupid to realize when they are getting hosed.
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Verizon No Longer Plans to Sell Unlocked iPhones
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I support their decision. I have seen quite a lot of stolen Android phones ,(which do not have iCloud like protections),in South East Asia , that had Verizon branding on the back. I do not like Verizon a lot but I see why they would do this.
Stolen iPhones on the other hand are hard to sell even in South East Asia, since people usually understand iCloud Locked phones are stolen.
Stolen iPhones on the other hand are hard to sell even in South East Asia, since people usually understand iCloud Locked phones are stolen.
Are you stupid? Do dealerships get robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight on a regular basis? Don't think so. Quit being naïve.
Ha, it was the same not too long ago, so don't point fingers, and no, I am not an American, I am a EU citizen.
Really, you have never heard of cars being stolen off the lot? Car theft is huge is this country. Get a clue and get off your ivory tower.
No it's not jealousy. It's not like a super exclusive service only elites can afford. I had Verizon for over 10 years and grew tired of their ******** "customer service". Switched to T-Mobile and have never been happier.
Bahahahahahahahahahaha. Driving a car off the lot isn't the same as armed robbery...you know, when someone comes into the store with a gun and demands you let them into the inventory room to give them phones...they aren't victims of armed robbery. Lol. You're making me laugh!
If i am paying full price for my phone upfront, there is no reason for Verizon to lock my phone. this is going backwards.
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iPhones sold through Apple store will still be unlocked, this applies to phones sold by just Verizon.
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iPhones sold through Apple store will still be unlocked, this applies to phones sold by just Verizon.
Yeah I learned how shady they are when they advertised a flip phone to me and it had all the features I was looking for, specifically MP3 playback and GPS. Turns out to use MP3s you had to unlock the features by paying for some media package that was 5-10$ a month, and GPS was also another additional monthly charge. That was the last phone that I bought through them. I think they tried to do something similar on the iPhone originally but Apple stood their ground.
Where does it say Verizon will unlock the phone earlier than the presumed 45-60 wait period if you pay them money?!
Geniune question/remark, Verizon does make money on every sold iPhone as all providers do, I don't know how much but pretty sure they make even more on every iPhone sold than normal retail/shop since they sell many more of them.
People get their cars stolen from people everyday at gunpoint, you fool when they are brand new. Exactly how does keeping the phone locked for months after activation affect Verizon? It only affects the person who owns the phone. Verizon isn't out any money once they sell it to you, and you activate it. After it's stolen from you, they don't give you a free replacement. You make no sense with your reasoning.
You're naïve. People do get their cars stolen, yes, as well as their phones, but if a company has the ability to protect their employees they should. So quit trying to out maneuver me when you mess up and change the situation. You said dealerships, not ordinary people. So who's the fool? And it affects Verizon because it makes criminals less likely to rob the stores....again, who's the fool? And Verizon IS out the money when phones are stolen. You are very naïve. It's okay to admit when you are wrong and just want to be a prick. And as to your last remark....reminds me of a phrase, "The pot calling the kettle black."
This looks like a PR statement from Verizon spokesperson.
The two reasons Verizon cite in the article for wanting to temporary lock phones are:
1) reduce theft of unsold phones in stores (or on their way to stores) that can be immediately resold (since they're unlocked)
2) deter people from using identify fraud to create new Verizon accounts to buy phones with that can be immediately resold (since they're unlocked)
In both cases above, Verizon is out money...
I think it'd be great if they could exclude this temporarily locking policy when someone who has had a long-standing account with them buys a new phone, but unless the person is paying with cash, there's still risk to them. I just had someone order three warranty replacements on my AT&T account, posing as me (a long-standing customer), regardless of the fact I have a 6-digit PIN on my account (in addition to a password).
I almost forgot about the Verizon schil in the FCC right now. Thanks @Vermifuge @eyoungren
Actually, we don't make much, if anything, at all from selling the iPhone. Apple is a hard company to deal with when it comes to pricing. There's no markup on what we buy them from Apple for. A good example is Best Buy's discounts. They pay cost plus 10%. On Apple products, that makes the discount more expensive. The phones we really make money off of are the Droid phones since it's our brand, and other Android phones. We do make money off of accessories, however, and that's why they have targets for those. Basically they have targets for accessories, new lines, and upgrades, but not specific phones. We make money off of service and add ons, but not really phones.
You still refuse to answer the question. If they are doing it to protect their employees, and merchandise, what's the need for them to keep the phones locked for months AFTER activation? If their sole purpose is to protect from theft, then criminals won't be robbing them at gunpoint, because they won't be unlocked until activation. No reason to keep them locked for months afterwards. Is any of this getting through to you?
Because they care more about their employees safety and the potential loss of money. I don't like phones being locked, and have actually bought Verizon phones for awhile because of this, but I'm glad they are doing this for my safety and my coworkers. It's stressful dealing with criminals. Every week we hear about a Verizon store getting robbed out here where I live. Besides they, you don't have to pay anything extra to get it unlocked. It will unlock after a few months. It's just to deter the bad guys, and since you're not one of them, you're all good! But if you want it unlocked right away and your paying full retail anyway, I'd just buy it from Apple.
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There was no question that hasn't been answered. Just you going in circles.....
If you're paying cash, I agree with you. If you're paying with anything else that could be fraudulent (i.e. obtained through identify theft, such as paying with acredit card, etc), I think there's another side to the thought.
When the X was released there was a lot of hoo-ha in the press over how much carriers were charging (by comparing buying the phone outright and adding a SIM only plan, to the monthly cost the carriers were charging over the contract term). So I don’t think there were many carrier discounts. Essentially, no one in their right mind would take a contract over buying the phone outright. However the latter requires an unlocked phone and a hefty up front payment (which not everyone has the luxury of).
If you're paying up front, you should be able to buy a SIM-Free version on day 1, but that's an Apple problem. If you're a Verizon customer who pays full price (like I do), then I do agree that you should be unlocked right away (or very quickly). I do not think you're the type of customer that this is likely to affect anyway. This screams of targeting the device payment/contracted phones.