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Verizon Preparing to Launch Voice Over LTE Network in September

So if you have a phone that supports this will you now be able to bring an unlocked phone to Verizon and get a sim card for it even if it wasn't originally sold as a verizon phone?
 
Good voice quality, finally! I often wondered why the "phone" aspect of the smartphone was so primitive. For business calls especially, I will look forward to this upgrade.
 
ElZeus said:
Their LTE video calls will require DATA + Minutes. BAWHWHAWHWHAWHAHAHAHA

We will stick with Facetime video/audio calls thank you very much. :apple:
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The summary says the exact opposite. Do you have a source? MR says VoLTE (voice) calls will count as minutes, but video calls will count as data.
 
DeafMacMobile said:
This is totally wrong way to do this since both LTE and VoLTE are on data line.
The problem with this. Video Calling is using VoLTE technology with the audio portion of a Video Call is delivered in HD Voice.
It make no sense of how they decide to count minutes and/or data! Eye opening!
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THIS. Isn't it all really just "data" these days? I mean, analog cell phones have all but disappeared a while ago.

-iamthinking
 
Two questions.....

1) How will Verizon leverage this to charge more?

2) How will Verizon make VOIP crappy once it is deployed?

I wouldn't be surprised if they added static and fade outs to their VIOP offering and continue to require that you buy a minimum amount of minutes so they can prop up their 100% profit margin voice service......

I only say this because I used to work with these Nimrods and there is nothing that they can't Eff up.....
 
LostMyiPhone said:
I think what they mean is that if you use Verizon's feature, you are getting dinged for data AND minutes at the same time. If you use Facetime video, you don't get charged separately for audio -- it's just data.

I'm not sure how this was all concluded though...
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I use Verizon and voice minutes are much cheaper than data. So Verizon charging voice as voice and video as data is better than charging both voice and video as data.
 
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MacRumors said:
The current generation iPhone chipset supports this feature, and it can be enabled with a software update. Rumors have suggested that Apple has plans to support VoLTE with the launch of iOS 8 and the iPhone 6.
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This is the most important part of the article for me. I hope that we'll see this enabled on the iPhone 5s and not just as a premium feature available only for a new iPhone, if and when one is released.
 
rdlink said:
You caught that too, huh?

I have an unlimited voice plan on VZW, and according to them my calls will not be a burden to VZW's network. Yet my sending an iMessage, or browsing to a website is. Hope the FCC is looking at that, also.
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Seriously, how much bandwidth do you imagine your voice call uses up? Even if you !!YELL!!, $we@r, talkreallyreallyfast, or conference with all yur girlfrnz 2 gossip about teh #hotguys n yur class, it's still miniscule compared to video. ;)

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RMo said:
The summary says the exact opposite. Do you have a source? MR says VoLTE (voice) calls will count as minutes, but video calls will count as data.
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He doesn't need a source. A reading comprehension problem, coupled with a two-dollar knee-jerk cynical-chic attitude, trumps any source.
 
The downside to this is that the Bluetooth handsfree profile is still extremely low quality, so VoLTE calls will still sound like crap when made over a car's handfree feature, or through a Bluetooth headset.

I don't know why they haven't updated the handsfree profile to support more modern audio quality. When I'm on a Facetime audio call in my car it sounds like ****, and when I arrive at my destination and switch to using the phone directly the person I'm talking to says "Holy **** you sound so much better now." Same thing with all bluetooth headsets.

They really need to fix Bluetooth HFP. There's no excuse for heavily compressed 8-bit, 8kHz audio anymore, anywhere.
 
Money Grab

It seems like a money grab... Most people have unlimited minutes. So by moving the voice to the data plan (which they make more money on). Plus it probably want to push the data through their network and not WiFi if you happen to be on it.
 
sflomenb said:
So this will work on the 5s, yes?
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WILL it work on the iPhone 5s, YES

Will Apple and Verizon allow it to work on the 5s, 5c, 5 & 4s are the question of the day. In theory they could hold back the feature for all phones but the new iPhone 6's and use it as a selling point. I wouldn't put it behind apple and VZW to do that, although the CDMA iPhone not having simultaneous voice and data has been one of the larger travesties in mobile tech in a long time (considering VZW had just gone on a rant about having voice and data simultaneously with the launch of its LTE network [but only on Android phones])....

we shall see, but I have been chomping at the bit waiting for this and it needs to happen, this is the ONE feature I would upgrade SOLELY for even if the 6 was a carbon copy of the 5s.....it actually hampers my productivity everyday and I have turned quite a few guaranteed vzw customers away because they need this for many reasons.....it is one feature we need to know the roadmap of right now.....GAAAAH this made me mad just typing it out!
 
Just curious...

What will AT&T use against Verizon now? That to me was the ONLY downside of being on Verizon is that I couldn't simultaneously do it... Hmmm converse! :apple:
 
dss10 said:
1) How will Verizon leverage this to charge more?

2) How will Verizon make VOIP crappy once it is deployed?
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1) Verizon will leverage this to charge more.

2) Verizon will make competing VOIP crappy once it is deployed.

There. Fixed, because Verizon will make this true. :mad:
 
Indeed!

ElZeus said:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/26/verizon-volte-launch/
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Net Neutrality violation and Double billing…

Just confirmed! One last catch relates to Verizon's video calling: All calls will be billed as both minutes and data. Double billing! Therefore Verizon and AT&T cannot allow to use throttling on our video calls due to life, health, safety or property(911 call).

FCC stated that it is the protection of life, health, safety or property of Deaf & HH Americans through their VRS & P2P communication system. Same way can they put “throttle” on your voice calls?

I believe that FCC and CRTC will disallow this due to net neutrality, video interoperability and protection of life, health, safety or property.
 
mikejaret said:
WILL it work on the iPhone 5s, YES

Will Apple and Verizon allow it to work on the 5s, 5c, 5 & 4s are the question of the day. In theory they could hold back the feature for all phones but the new iPhone 6's and use it as a selling point. I wouldn't put it behind apple and VZW to do that, although the CDMA iPhone not having simultaneous voice and data has been one of the larger travesties in mobile tech in a long time (considering VZW had just gone on a rant about having voice and data simultaneously with the launch of its LTE network [but only on Android phones])....

we shall see, but I have been chomping at the bit waiting for this and it needs to happen, this is the ONE feature I would upgrade SOLELY for even if the 6 was a carbon copy of the 5s.....it actually hampers my productivity everyday and I have turned quite a few guaranteed vzw customers away because they need this for many reasons.....it is one feature we need to know the roadmap of right now.....GAAAAH this made me mad just typing it out!
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I can pretty much guarantee this isn't going to work on the 4S. You can't do VoLTE if you can't do LTE...
 
theheadguy said:
Facetime video/audio over LTE also requires DATA. SMH...
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okay thats not his point his point is that Verizon's way is going to cost people data AND minutes from your plan when video calling should be just data if its over LTE

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just in time for iOS 8 to enable VoLTE support for iPhone's now, 5S,5, 5C all can support VoLTE , its just once the carriers roll it out everywhere
 
zorinlynx said:
The downside to this is that the Bluetooth handsfree profile is still extremely low quality, so VoLTE calls will still sound like crap when made over a car's handfree feature, or through a Bluetooth headset.

I don't know why they haven't updated the handsfree profile to support more modern audio quality. When I'm on a Facetime audio call in my car it sounds like ****, and when I arrive at my destination and switch to using the phone directly the person I'm talking to says "Holy **** you sound so much better now." Same thing with all bluetooth headsets.

They really need to fix Bluetooth HFP. There's no excuse for heavily compressed 8-bit, 8kHz audio anymore, anywhere.
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I feel you, and I've given up on BT headsets altogether. JFYI, HFP 1.6 does include support for 16-bit audio/wide-band speech (mSBC codec) - as opposed to the 8-bit CVSD codec so many of loathe. mSBC support has been around for a few years now, but finding car manufacturers that support it - is the trick as they seem to be far and few between. They likely know that since the networks largely haven't implemented AMR-WB - so why bother.

I travel quite a bit here in the PNW, and I've found the secret to making calls with perfect clarity with a VZW phone - make or take a call while roaming on US Cellular's network! I KNOW when I get back to VZW's network... :rolleyes:
 
Creepy.
 

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