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An announcement by Verizon detailing their CES 2011 news conference as a "sneak peek of Android-based 4G LTE" devices has generated speculation that Verizon won't be talking about a Verizon iPhone during this year's CES show.

To be clear, however, Verizon's afternoon news conference has been known as an Android event. It was the Verizon CEO keynote speech scheduled on the morning of Thursday, January 6th that has been seen as a possible announcement venue.

The reason for all the speculation is that the timing of CES corresponds to many of the growing rumors that a Verizon iPhone will finally launch in early 2011. While we've heard these same rumors for years, the reports have been growing louder and more frequent. Most rumors point to the first quarter of 2011 as the launch of the Verizon iPhone. It would be unusual, however, for Apple to allow another company make such a significant announcement. Apple typically holds its own press event in January/February. Last year, Apple introduced the iPad in January. A Verizon iPhone announcement might make more sense alongside the rumored iPad 2, which is also rumored to support Verizon's CDMA network.

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KnightWRX

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Verizon + iOS rumors = iPad. If people didn't catch that by the fact that Verizon stores sell iPads bundled with MiFi already, I don't know what to say.

There never was a Verizon iPhone. At most, maybe Apple will make a T-mobile version.
 
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Mac-Mariachi

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Android and iPhone?

I don´t think Verizon will make those 2 announcements. It will be a major conflict of interest I suppose. Of course I´d love to see Verizon´s CEO introduce Steve on a big Screen to make the iPhone@Verizon announcement, but whatever happens on Jan. 6 I can´t wait to see what it is.
 
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chequepoint

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Got to say at this point, I'll be pretty bummed if Apple takes a step backwards and supports CDMA. Apple should be known for killing old tech, not embracing it.
 
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jouster

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I suspect this has to do with Apple's desire to control every aspect of a Verizon launch. I doubt if it has any relevance to the likelihood or otherwise of such a launch.
 
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KnightWRX

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I don´t think Verizon will make those 2 announcements. It will be a major conflict of interest I suppose.

Uh ? Up here, Bell, Rogers, Telus promote the crap out of both their Android offerings and the iPhone. What conflict is there exactly ? Is your grocer in a major conflict of interest because it sells both Kellog's and General Mill's cereal ?

Some of you guys need to get out more. Retailers are not in conflict because they offer choices.
 
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Geckotek

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Verizon + iOS rumors = iPad. If people didn't catch that by the fact that Verizon stores sell iPads bundled with MiFi already, I don't know what to say.

There never was a Verizon iPhone. At most, maybe Apple will make a T-mobile version.

And why exactly can it not = Verizon iPhone? There is no logic in your statement.

Got to say at this point, I'll be pretty bummed if Apple takes a step backwards and supports CDMA. Apple should be known for killing old tech, not embracing it.

And what makes CDMA old tech? Do you know anything about it?

I suspect this has to do with Apple's desire to control every aspect of a Verizon launch. I doubt if it has any relevance to the likelihood or otherwise of such a launch.

Agreed.
 
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moneyman118

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Anyone who thought otherwise doesnt follow Apple. Steve would never allow another company to announce an Apple product. Late January or even the week of the 6th for a keynote from Jobs and Co.
 
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I'd only expect Apple to announce a CDMA compatible iPhone during one of their events over a carrier doing it at CES.
 
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I understand a lot of people don't care but ATT needs to jump on the 4G bandwagon and stop trying to update everyone to the newer HSPA.
 
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ghostface147

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Well duh. If anyone is going to announce a new product, it's going to Jobs. He'll do it when he wants, where he wants.
 
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First off a Verizon iPhOne is not a fundamentally new device so Apple can be flexible in how it is announced. Besides has no one here heard of team work? Working with Verizon would be a joint effort this the possibility of a joint announcement.

Second, it has already been mentioned but iPad has to be considered also. It should be Obvious that the two companies are working on more than cell phones.
 
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Here's what will happen:

iPad 2 supports CDMA (which hints iPhone 5 will be supported by Verizon)

Then in June, Apple announces iPhone 5 (which now has a CDMA chip for Verizon customers).

It would seem dumb to release a Verizon iPhone now, when a new one will be released in June. It would cause two different cycles for an identical product.

I.E. Verizon customers who get a new iPhone in January (if one was released), would be upset a new iPhone came out (with new features) months later.
 
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Geckotek

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Well duh. If anyone is going to announce a new product, it's going to Jobs. He'll do it when he wants, where he wants.

True, but you have to look at history and what we see is that other carrier announcements were not made by Jobs. Either way is possible in my mind.

the so called 4G is nothing more than a newer version of HSPA

100% FALSE. Please do research before posting.

Here's what will happen:

iPad 2 supports CDMA (which hints iPhone 5 will be supported by Verizon)

Then in June, Apple announces iPhone 5 (which now has a CDMA chip for Verizon customers).

It would seem dumb to release a Verizon iPhone now, when a new one will be released in June. It would cause two different cycles for an identical product.

I.E. Verizon customers who get a new iPhone in January (if one was released), would be upset a new iPhone came out (with new features) months later.

Apple already has issues keeping up with demand. 2 release cycles would make total sense.
 
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I understand a lot of people don't care but ATT needs to jump on the 4G bandwagon and stop trying to update everyone to the newer HSPA.
What are you talking about? The LTE spec isn't even complete.

The rest of the world is building out their HSPA+ networks right now. While many countries are committed to LTE, they aren't going to build out until 2012. The U.S. is the only major market where LTE is currently being deployed, and by one mobile operator.

Apple releases iDevices based on the world's predominant network technology, hence the 2.5G GSM/EDGE iPhone in 2007 while the world was still building out 3G UTMS/HSPA.

Apple is not going to release an iDevice based on LTE until 2013. We are looking at iDevices based on HSPA+ for 2011 and 2012. The first LTE chips will probably be expensive and power-hungry anyhow.

As for CDMA, I'm still unconvinced that Apple is going to release such a CDMA-supported iDevice this year. Why? I don't think Apple has made any major effort into hiring CDMA engineers. I'm sure they have a few on staff, mostly doing prototyping work, but if they had a design headed to production, they would have more than just a few CDMA engineers.
 
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Its not hard to figure out they wont have a iPhone at CES since Apple is the only one who would make that type of announcement and they do there own events.
 
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patsfan83

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I understand a lot of people don't care but ATT needs to jump on the 4G bandwagon and stop trying to update everyone to the newer HSPA.

What happens when you get out of a 4G area? You need to fallback on a solid 3G network, not a crappy CDMA one (speedwise, coverage is good).

ATT 3G HSPA+:
According to Engadget, the upgrade could realistically offer most users download speeds between 7.2Mbps and 14.4Mbps.

Verizon '3G':
(wikipedia) On June 30, 2007, Verizon Wireless had completed the overhaul of the entire EV-DO network to EV-DO Rev. A. This enables PC Cards and certain phones to obtain theoretical peak download speeds of 3.1 Mbit/s and upload speeds of up to 1.8 Mbit/s. [11] The actual download and upload speeds vary due to a number of factors, and users will typically see speeds close to 1 Mbit/s down, and 500 kbit/s up.
 
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KnightWRX

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And why exactly can it not = Verizon iPhone? There's not logic in your statement.

There's no logic in any statements about Verizon or iPhones or iPads right now. There's only speculation and rumors. My take was my own speculation. The CDMA iPad is what is coming, not a CDMA iPhone.


I understand a lot of people don't care but ATT needs to jump on the 4G bandwagon and stop trying to update everyone to the newer HSPA.

Or you know they can do both. It's not like there's only 1 guy working there upgrading the network. They can work on deploying HSPA+ on their network while field testing and starting deployment of 4G in certain markets. :rolleyes:

Rogers is still in the process of deploying HSPA+, and they are now beginning field tests of LTE in certain markets. Imagine that, running projects in parallele...


Its not hard to figure out they wont have a iPhone at CES since Apple is the only one who would make that type of announcement and they do there own events.

Steve didn't announce the Bell or Telus iPhone here. Bell and Telus did, when they launched their HSPA+ networks.
 
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What happens when you get out of a 4G area? You need to fallback on a solid 3G network, not a crappy CDMA one (speedwise, coverage is good).

ATT 3G HSPA+:
According to Engadget, the upgrade could realistically offer most users download speeds between 7.2Mbps and 14.4Mbps.

Verizon '3G':
(wikipedia) On June 30, 2007, Verizon Wireless had completed the overhaul of the entire EV-DO network to EV-DO Rev. A. This enables PC Cards and certain phones to obtain theoretical peak download speeds of 3.1 Mbit/s and upload speeds of up to 1.8 Mbit/s. [11] The actual download and upload speeds vary due to a number of factors, and users will typically see speeds close to 1 Mbit/s down, and 500 kbit/s up.

What happens when you get out of a HSPA+ area and need to fall back to crapy EDGE?
 
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My contract with Verizon has been up since mid December. If there isn't a Verizon iPhone announcement soon I'm switching to AT&T.
 
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