Ok, well I disagree because I'm unhappy with ISP's services overall.
This article is about Verizon limiting wifi calling. Not Samsung or Apple limiting it.
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Ok, well I disagree because I'm unhappy with ISP's services overall.
This article is about Verizon limiting wifi calling. Not Samsung or Apple limiting it.
Actually, none at all. It's just a way better phone (and I have loads of Apple products).
Verizon continues to wage war against the iPhone. They want the margins on android devices plain and simple. Employees are not allowed to purchase an iPhone on a discount and generally prohibited from buying the latest devices from Apple period and when I last worked there if we bought from somewhere else they refused to activate it until the embargo was lifted. Needless to say I was an AT&T customer the 14 years I worked there. Their employee phone program was atrocious.
Desiring higher profit margins does not equal a war is being waged. It makes for a nice hyperbole blanket statement though.
You're an awesome parent! When I was growing up my parents were doing well, they got us everything we needed / some of what we wanted, but through it all they instilled the value of money and hard work in us. I am in my 30s now, to this day I remember small things like that.
Thanks for that, but trust me awesome is too great a descriptor. I have made tons of mistakes as a parent. I'll probably make a few more before the day is over.
I do the best I can. Thankfully, sometimes that's enough. I'm sure every parent on this forum would tell you the same. Through hard work, some good people, and a crap ton of luck I've been fortunate to have financial concerns fall far down my list of things to worry about. I want my girls to be the same way. Growing up dirt poor, I understood the value of a dollar pretty early. I keep a picture of 3yr old 69Mustang from 1972. I tell my girls we could easily go from where we are back to that if we aren't responsible with our money. So far so good.Apologies to all for threadjacking
Yes it is. I should of corrected it from my post after I posted it but I was too lazy. Still am.
Love Wifi calling on AT&T.
Crisp and clear in my cellular dead zone theater..
Too bad iPhone users have to wait on Verizon...
Crisp and clear in my cellular dead zone theater..
Too bad iPhone users have to wait on Verizon...
And to test on Android phones instead of on iPhones. That way, those of us who have iPhones won’t have to deal with buggy Wi-Fi calling. That’s how it worked with 4G and NFC; Android phones got them first, but Apple waited until it was able to properly implement them.Good. It's wise to roll out slowly then on a massive scale.
The NE does NOT have a whitelist-only option. 4 channels are reserved for emergency and up-to-3 VZW subs and subs roaming on the VZW network. There's no "hack".
Also guessing with this bit - I'm hoping that VZW will have a "Cell Spot", the customized ASUS router that T-Mo uses for their wifi calling. Still won't be able to exclude others, tho'.
It sounds like a hardware vs software issue; it's a lot faster to use specialized processors than to use general-purpose processors, which is why routers use routing processors instead of Intel general-purpose processors.
Arguable at best, I'd say. I get a lot of customers switching from Verizon here at T-Mobile saying their network is getting worse if anything and that they want better coverage, so by word of mouth they ended up coming in.
I wasn't condemning Verizon for adding the feature, nor was I saying no one but T-Mobile should have it. EVERY carrier should have it. I'm just saying it's pretty clear that Verizon takes forever to implement new features into their network because they don't care about their customers (as a former Verizon customer, I can attest to this). Really the entire industry is being dragged, kicking and screaming, toward the notion of actually doing things that benefit the customer by T-Mobile.
You don't know their motivations and either you're an idiot or you take us to be when you claim you do.
I, for one, am happy at some of the hands that T-Mobile is forcing Ma Bell and Big Red to play, but let's be clear about one thing: John Legere has the exact same end game as the aforementioned--$$$. He loves to play the part of Robin Hood, but for a long time it was because it was his only card to play; he didn't have the coverage/speeds to do otherwise.
Arguable at best as well. Perhaps in some localized areas something like that might apply, but for the most part people aren't switching from Verizon because coverage is getting worse or that T-Mobile's coverage is better, it's mostly the pricing and offers related to it.
Been there with old flip phones...and left them at the moment when I found out OBEX profile is disabled on all of its phones.
Verizon is always dead last when it comes to Android updates usually a year behind the other carriers. That's why Google has been moving to take back update control.
That's a good point. But you'd think they'd have this thing tested by now. Maybe they're worried about system load and need to test scaling first to get an idea?FYI, VZW has been pushing bug fixes to the S6 since this summer - "next week" comes about the time for the 5.1.2 update, so those users will likely be our test mules. VZW likely rather piss off several thousand S6 users than several million iPhone subs...
As to the "Android first" bit, they're not getting Marshmallow until "sometime next year" on the S6. iOS 9.2 will likely be out in the next week or two, so it's already nearing the end of carrier testing so we'll see this new feature in the next major update. No other Android phone on their network is getting wifi calling soon AFAIK...
They're also worried about E911 - the fines for screwing up here are stiff, really stiff. OR & WA recently had E911 failures for several hours or so by CenturyLink and (I think) ATTWS and the resulting fines were well over $10M each. Yikes!
I didn't mention this bit earlier, IMHO VZW is pretty new to this and, in a sense, have actually been "beta testing" us iOS users via their Messages+ app, updated recently to include wifi calling. I tried Messages+, and found their implementation lacking - I couldn't get a call to stay connected for more than 13 seconds, and no longer use it. Give it a spin - some users report good success with it, it just didn't work for me but I also have Skype (both personal & business versions) to fall back on. Cheers!
Ad hominem notwithstanding, I don't take anyone to be an idiot. But having experienced, time and again, that Verizon employees are rude and have zero interest in helping their customers, and having experienced, time and again, that T-Mobile employees actually treat their customers pretty well, I have to say I disagree. Yes, both Verizon and T-Mobile exist to turn a profit, which is therefore their motivation for what they do. Neither of us is an idiot for stating the obvious, since you said the same thing in your post.
Nevertheless, I think there's a big difference between a company that profits by screwing people over and a company that profits by treating their employees and customers right. Both have the goal of profit in mind, sure, but one is moral and one is not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather that you have the "companies are greedy, that's all there is to it" mentality going on, but I think it's worth keeping in mind that businesses are run by people who make these decisions, so how businesses act are a reflection of how the management acts. It's easy to vilify businesses, but I don't think they all deserve it.
That is, of course, unless you think being successful is evil in some way, in which case 1. I'm not sure how to help you go anywhere in life, and 2. I'm not sure why you're on an Apple forum.
There's no ad hominem here; you mean nothing to me (that being a genuinely innocent and neutral statement). It's your views that are wrong or at the very least seen through rose-colored glasses.
The vast majority of businesses are amoral, and you're defying your own "logic." You say, "One company is moral and the other is not....it's easy to vilify a business...I don't think they all deserve it."
VZW's goals are profit. ATT's goals are profit. TMO's goals are profit. Period.
It's all anecdotal. This forum is filled with pages of stories about how wonderful/evil/amazing/awful every single carrier is. These stories don't make the carrier's good or evil. They make them corporations fueled by profits and filled by people.