bruinsrme
macrumors 604
My IUP att phone is unlocked according to iTunes.
I plugged it in and did a restore and the congratulations your phone is unlocked popped up.
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I plugged it in and did a restore and the congratulations your phone is unlocked popped up.
AlphaGuitarist
macrumors 65816
Amen. My wife has a Galaxy S8, which uses the Qualcomm modem. I've yet to encounter a place where she had signal and I didn't. Just to satisfy my curiosity, I'll do a simultaneous speed test on both phones when I get home tonight and see if there's any difference.
bruinsrme
macrumors 604
Hey Apple got it all wrong.
Then I picked up an X and guess who was wrong.
Love this phone!
ActionableMango
macrumors G3
Single-sourcing a critical component of your supply chain is risky. What if the company goes under? What if the factory burns down, floods, etc? Redundancy is a good thing.
Setting disasters aside, single-sourcing can also be a capacity problem, where a single source can't necessarily provide enough parts on time. Many times we've seen different CPUs, screens, batteries, and now modems.
These reasons are perfectly normal, not "straight up stupid".
macfacts
macrumors 603
He misread the study. It shows if you are in a low signal area, the Qualcomm model will let you watch HD video, while the Intel modem will only let you use iMessage.
If you are in an area with 5/5 bars if signal, the difference between models doesn't matter. But who is in that perfect scenario all the time?
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60 something percent better is not negligible.
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applewatch
macrumors 6502a
You could've bought the unlocked Verizon iPhone X (Qualcomm) outright in-store on launch day (or maybe a few days after 11/3) without having to give your credentials.
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macfacts
macrumors 603
It is easy to reproduce the test independently. Take the Qualcomm model in an area with 1/5bars of signal strength and do a speed test. Repeat with Intel model with same 1/5 bars of signal strength.
LarryJoe33
macrumors 68030
Yes, but I would imagine activating a SIM free phone takes account set up and programming in a brick and mortar store. I am no expert, by traveling abroad, it seems buying a SIM and putting money on it is the norm. We don't have that here AFAIK.
You didn’t do your homework. Doesn’t the unlocked phone always come out several weeks after the initial release?
Archer1440
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As it's presumably so easy, it's rather interesting that there doesn't appear to be any credible comparison showing exactly that.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
Blondie&Dagwood
macrumors 6502
Did you pay full price? If yes, then your AT&T phone is already unlocked. Seeing that you lined up on launch day, you could have actually purchased the unlocked Verizon phone (which is the same model as the unlocked model) without having to provide any account details and then popped in your AT&T card. Don't blame Apple for you not having done your research. You also could have waited for the unlocked SIM free version to go on sale too.
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Nonsense, you can purchase an AT&T phone from Apple with an option to pay full price. Go to the Apple store app and see for yourself
redman042
macrumors 68040
In my experience, cell network download speeds have a whole lot more to do with tower congestion than the capabilities of the phone. I doubt the differences between these two versions of the phone would be noticed in real-life at all, unless you happen to have both versions of the phone in your hands and start a download the very moment your carrier puts a fresh tower online, before everyone else piles on to it.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
You didn't read what I wrote. I said you cannot buy one from AT&T. You can from an Apple Store. From AT&T in their store or online; no.
Blondie&Dagwood
macrumors 6502
I just went on to AT&T.com and there is an option to purchase full retail price for the phone.
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AlphaGuitarist
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Activating a SIM-free phone is as easy as taking the SIM card out of your old phone and placing it in the new one, as long as you have an existing account. With regards to overseas traveling (I'm somewhat of an expert, as my wife and I travel abroad at least once a year), it's exactly as you described. You stop by a local wireless shop, pick up a preloaded SIM card, place it in your phone and you're good to go. They do, however, require the SIM card to be registered and will ask for your passport or driver license. I was able to get away without doing that in Ireland, by purchasing a Meteor (Irish wireless provider) SIM card on eBay and loading it up on their website with a credit card, and the UK, by purchasing a preloaded SIM card at a wireless stand at the Heathrow Airport. Spain and France, on the other hand, required registration.
Also, the EU recently passed a law that abolished roaming charges. For instance, purchasing a SIM card in Spain will allow you to use the service in any EU country at no additional charge.
If it makes you feel any better Verizon will be sunsetting CDMA in 2019.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/verizon-cdma-2g-shutdown/
As is CDMA isn’t hardly used anyway as most of the US is covered by LTE. I don’t think my VZW X has seen 1x or 2g once so far.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/verizon-cdma-2g-shutdown/
As is CDMA isn’t hardly used anyway as most of the US is covered by LTE. I don’t think my VZW X has seen 1x or 2g once so far.
ET iPhone Home
macrumors 68040
This is why I always wait for the Sim-Free on every iPhone I buy.
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It may be unlocked, but because OP purchased an ATT X version, it may only work on GSM (ATT and T-Mobile). OP wants it to work on CDMA and GSM.
If you have an active SIM you just insert it into the phone and it will activate. Carrier activation is mostly a scam. All it does is transfer your account to a new SIM. No need to do that.
Depends on where you go. Any on the Asian countries that I’ve traveled to (and I’m now retired and moved to the Philippines) don’t require all that. Simply buy a SIM card. Pop it in the phone. Add some load (either eload or a load card) and you’re good to go.
flat five
macrumors 603
read this:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/business/apple-vs-qualcomm-news/
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pretty sure the reason any new iPhone has Qualcomm in there is because it's necessary for certain networks..
otherwise, Apple wouldn't be putting out 2 versions.. it would be all Intel.
..and this will likely be the case next year or 2019
Processors, I'm talking about the modem. Apple removed antennas from Qualcomm to match Intel.
Think like TSMC VS Samsung.
It's just frustrating that the X16 can get 4x4 MIMO/LAA It just can't in the iPhone because Apple crippled it to match Intels XMM7480. It's a less obvious difference this year compared with the iPhone 7/7 Plus but it's still there. Especially in high dBm (Low signal).