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iPhone 11 Pro Very underwhelmed with Iphone 11 Pro camera
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All these images have run through lossy compression a couple times, the iPhone 11 has one additional time (HEIC > jpg). So what we see isn't a great representation of the native capture. The compression makes it difficult to compare because its made the images similar resolution and color wise.
Keep in mind which camera takes a more visually appealing photo shouldn't be the topic. Visually appealing is subjective for not only the person viewing the image but their overall mindset and mood. We need to compare the likeness of reality and finer details that are captured. From there the image can be altered to your preferences, however if detail is lost during the capture we can never get it back.
Anyway, if I were to GUESS I would say the first one (of top set) is the iPhone 11. I'm assuming the walls are supposed to be white/off white and not yellow? If your walls are yellow then I'm not as confident. However I feel the top one is a better representation of reality while the second is too bright.
There is some detail lost in the second pic (top set). The marks to the left on the wall are difficult to see, I feel like I wouldn't be straining in real life. If you look really closely at the dog at the far right on the top most image there is a reflection that is a straight line running diagonally across its front paw and nose, pretty much invisible in the second image. If you zoom into the letters of the wood carving the contrast is crushing detail on the second image. "Dalai Lama" is blown out on the books spine as well.
Regardless if I'm right or wrong the bigger question is, what exactly do you not like about the 11 and/or like about the 6S? We might be able to address your concerns, there are different camera apps, very quick photo adjustments, exposure sittings, etc etc.
Thanks buddy, really appreciate you looking.
Seems a couple of other posters are becoming obsessed with lockdowns, or perhaps butt-hurt because I managed to get the photos on here.
In any case irrelevant contributors, so mods if possible could I please request you block them from this post as completely unhelpful/irrelevant. Real time-wasters, perhaps they Apple shills or even bots?
The top photo is the iPhone 11 Pro, however I changed the setting to jpeg before taking; meaning both cameras are producing jpegs.
What disappoints me is that when comparing the two, the improvement in quality is so minor.
Apart from the 11 being darker, the difference is incredibly minuscule. I know that this phone is supposed to perform better than this.
I am sure it is something to do with the stutter when the photo is taken, once the button is pressed it stutters then produces a photo then goes back to an image on screen shifted from what I was focusing on. And how do I turn off that bloody vibrate when taking photos??
As for the two garden images, both iPhone 11, but they are so blurry. Zoom in on either and they are pixelated as hell, why?
I deliberately took one in the natural light and one in the shade, with a different range of colours and to be quite honest they look like awful. Imagine this blown up, even a couple of sizes.
Eventually o2 will have to replace this phone, as after doing a remote test with Apple today, and resetting the phone the telephone reps also agreed that the quality is questionable. In addition, it took two hours for the battery to get to 34%, only stock apps and no internet on.
They mentioned a magnetic field may have damaged the cameras, which is rare but something they are discovering in the 512gb models and can confirm when opened up; o2 didn't open up my phone, they simply ran software tests and handheld tests.
As for the screen and watching YouTube videos, also very underwhelming. Nevertheless, the audio is quite amazing when playing.
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Have you zoomed in? These were taken with clear focus not too close, not too far.
As much as I can zoom in on my iPhone yep. And if you think the screen is underwhelming I genuinely don’t know what to say to that.
Thats fair enough, but there is something wrong with this phone.
If I could get to an Apple shop, I could compare with another handset of this model, but obviously not at the moment.
Maybe if I record some video, that might show it?
Like others I see nothing wrong. What exactly are you expecting the pictures to do?
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??? that is quite literally what i did.
All the photos I’ve uploaded except one are photos of my iPhone 11 Pro, which I specifically said, and also said I thought are poor quality.
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thank you so much for your post, very helpful, not just for me but for the forum.
I am planning on taking lots of photos today with both phones to illustrate further the awfulness of this 11 camera.
If there really is nothing wrong then I am thoroughly disappointed and will be switching to the new Samsung which looks like a proper camera. In any case, better to be 100% sure, and as Apple have now agreed to a certain extent, hopefully its just my handset.
Well in that case I’m wasting my time. As everyone else has said, those pics look fine. You’re not saying what you think is wrong. You’re just saying they’re bad. It’s all subjective and until you explain what you think is wrong this thread is a waste of time IMHO.
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Are you doing this on purpose? No offence but this is the second time in as many posts you’ve literally asked me to do what I’ve already done...
are you actually reading my responses?
I appreciate you took time to look, but for the third time, I have said the photos look blurry, and also heavily pixelated when zooming in - whatever colours and lighting conditions - those are the problems.
In addition, I have also said the overall quality improvement from my 6s is minimal( with comparative photos).
Mods, if you think this is lock worthy go ahead, but personally, apart from a couple of Apple fanboys, this seems like a good post for those with 11 camera issues (I’m definitely not the only one).
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can I ask what phone you took these photos with, the mb size is super small, mine are 5mb plus normally, unless compressed when uploaded
The photos you posted look great, I own a Note 10 so no bias here. I zoomed in and they are in focus.
thanks for looking, much appreciated.
so you think the comparative ones, (with the Australia sign) look ok?
Bare in mind this is a 6s v 11 pro.
I do disagree, even the ones outside, to me, look trashy and blurry as hell! No sharpness at all, imho.
Yes you did say blurred, I missed/forgot that, you’re right. But I give up. Those photographs you have uploaded are not blurred. Everyone else says they are not blurred. I genuinely hope you get these issues, whatever they are, sorted out but I’m out.
Edit: The Apple fanboys comment will get you a long way here.
Thanks for your reply.
so really, the two comparative photos, the ones with the Australia sign, don’t look blurred? Perhaps it’s my eyes then as they both look terrible to me
ok, thanks for opinion.
personally, I disagree but always good to get further input
Fair point. Almost sounds like you were happy with the 6S. That leaves very little room for appreciating enhancements.To that point, the iPhone 6S camera has a very good camera.
Honestly considering that image is uploaded here and just a quick snapshot it looks decent to me.
Its resolution was reduced from 12 megapixels (4032x3024) when captured to 3 megapixels (1500x2000) uploading here. Its P3 color profile was removed. If it was jpg so its file size has been reduced from 3mb - 4mb to 300kb - 400kb to upload to this webpage. Now considerings it lost 4x its resolution, its color profile and literally 10x its original data.....ya looks decent...
The megapixels (width resolution X height resolution) of the 6S and 11 hasn't changed. So zooming to macro levels won't really show you much. Increasing the MP just makes the image needlessly bigger, 12 MP is 4032x3024. Even a 5k monitor can't show that image at 100% (1:1 pixel ration) without the image going off the top and/or bottom of the screen.
If you search around the web you can find some pics that rival DSLRs shot from the iPhone 11 Pro. And its not because its a its just a good picture, many of the pics don't show issues that smartphone cameras generally suffer from like noise in low lighting. While I personally don't think it makes the picture better but I think if you take a picture, tap edit, tap auto, tap done you'll get more of the 6S brightness levels.
Not saying you should be "impressed" with the iPhone 11 Pro's display but its not only as good as smart phones get, its pretty much as good as displays get period (in its color space). You can find information and test on the subject all over the web but here is a rather thorough test.
You need to watch a high res 10 bit HDR video, preferably a clip that isn't compressed like YouTube or Netflix (although they can look good too). Its a bit of a pain due to file formats but if you goto...
4K Media | Free Ultra-HD / HDR / HLG / Dolby Vision 4K Video Demos
Uncompressed 4K demos, samples, and trailers, to show off your new ultra-HD (2160p) HDR/HLG/Dolby Vision television or monitor.
4kmedia.org
And download an HDR video, put it in a container the iPhone can play and make sure you crank the brightness on the iPhone (to reach HDR luminance levels).
Frankly it sounds like you just don't like the phone as much as you feel you should. Returning/selling it for something cheaper, something that you dont feel needs to impress you might be worth while.
Thanks for your reply, very informative and something to look at.
In regards to what has happened to the photos uploaded, I have literally made no changes to them.
Took them as jpeg, air dropped to Mac then uploaded to site. It seems a lot has happened on that journey, was those changes/compressions done by me accidentally? If so any idea how I can avoid that in the future?
Thing is they look just as bad on the iPhone 11
as for being disappointed, yes very much so. The battery to get to 100% takes over 7 hours, the phone will suddenly go black when using it, Safari is forever reloading, and obviously the camera and this bloody delayed stutter when taking photos.
I know people are saying it looks fine, but I am so sure the phone is faulty.
In any case, I need it returned and swapped, either new handset or Samsung as I can’t deal with paying nearly £1700 for a phone when my 6s is only slightly less in terms of overall performance
once again thanks for your reply
In regards to what has happened to the photos uploaded, I have literally made no changes to them.
Took them as jpeg, air dropped to Mac then uploaded to site. It seems a lot has happened on that journey, was those changes/compressions done by me accidentally? If so any idea how I can avoid that in the future?
Thing is they look just as bad on the iPhone 11
as for being disappointed, yes very much so. The battery to get to 100% takes over 7 hours, the phone will suddenly go black when using it, Safari is forever reloading, and obviously the camera and this bloody delayed stutter when taking photos.
I know people are saying it looks fine, but I am so sure the phone is faulty.
In any case, I need it returned and swapped, either new handset or Samsung as I can’t deal with paying nearly £1700 for a phone when my 6s is only slightly less in terms of overall performance
once again thanks for your reply
iPhone 8 Plus. I think when they’re uploaded on here cause I checked and they’re all about 6MB.
And they are clearer than my 11! Lol
Once I get a new handset, I’m gonna take these photos again and compare
To me the upper one is better, don't know about the lightning conditions, but I assume it's closer to how it really looked. Also, the picture has better and crisper details than the second one, especially if you start zooming in.
Having said that, even my old iPhone 6 was able to take amazing pictures when the lightning conditions were really good, so I assume you were expecting a dramatic difference which would be clearly visible at a first sight. To me, the new iPhones offer more for people who want to play with the pictures and edit them in a bit more advanced way or to use them professionally. Direct difference is visible when you use things like night mode.
I can shoot better photos with 6s than most people with 11.
Camera in 11 is so much better than 6s but you can't expect miracles. I have 6s and 11 and can shoot some photos for you. In good and bad conditions.
You will be surprised how bad photo can you take with 5000 eur camera if you don't know how.
In the meantime reat this article https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPh...s-Plus-7-8-Plus-XR-XS-Max-11-Pro-Max_id119407
Isn't it your case ? Are these results better than yours ? Because If look at them like "common people" there isn't big difference especially in smaller images (or showing in iphone display)
Camera in 11 is so much better than 6s but you can't expect miracles. I have 6s and 11 and can shoot some photos for you. In good and bad conditions.
You will be surprised how bad photo can you take with 5000 eur camera if you don't know how.
In the meantime reat this article https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPh...s-Plus-7-8-Plus-XR-XS-Max-11-Pro-Max_id119407
Isn't it your case ? Are these results better than yours ? Because If look at them like "common people" there isn't big difference especially in smaller images (or showing in iphone display)
I think you can have the best camera in the world and still take a rubbish photograph depending on your own personal skills. I can take a better picture with my iPhone 8+ than my work colleague can with his 11 Pro Max. I was in a camera club years ago and a guy went out and spent thousands on kit and was a bit of an idiot generally. He knew everything and when it came to actually looking at his pictures, he was getting worse results than those with cameras a quarter of the cost that he paid.
People often obsess over the camera but forget it’s just one element. The camera is decent on the 11 Pro of course. It’ll never put perform a proper DSLR in the right hands though. If you feel it’s worse than an identical shot taken with an older iPhone than I’d speak to Apple and show your comparisons. It would be very difficult to explain other than doing that.
People often obsess over the camera but forget it’s just one element. The camera is decent on the 11 Pro of course. It’ll never put perform a proper DSLR in the right hands though. If you feel it’s worse than an identical shot taken with an older iPhone than I’d speak to Apple and show your comparisons. It would be very difficult to explain other than doing that.
Thanks guys
I took some more photos yesterday outside, with my Iphone 11, and my mums £150 Nokia! The difference is minute!
The handset I have is producing awful photos. Plain and simple.
I understand based on the photos ive uploaded some people cant see anything wrong, but I strongly disagree, all the photos from the 11 Ive uploaded look terrible for such a hyped phone.
Looking at photos I took years ago on my new 6s compared to this 11, infuriating.
As for the night mode, amateur at best.
If this is the best photos the Iphone 11 can produce, then Im sorry, the world has gone bloody mad to have this as acceptable.
I cant say Samsung will be much better, but one thing is for sure: considering I haven't bought a new phone since the 6s first came out, and this 11 is over six years later, then something is seriously wrong with Apple Iphone's commitment to improvement.
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Thanks, I did, and they (one of their remote telephone/computer agent) agreed!
Its just o2 that is faffing around
I took some more photos yesterday outside, with my Iphone 11, and my mums £150 Nokia! The difference is minute!
The handset I have is producing awful photos. Plain and simple.
I understand based on the photos ive uploaded some people cant see anything wrong, but I strongly disagree, all the photos from the 11 Ive uploaded look terrible for such a hyped phone.
Looking at photos I took years ago on my new 6s compared to this 11, infuriating.
As for the night mode, amateur at best.
If this is the best photos the Iphone 11 can produce, then Im sorry, the world has gone bloody mad to have this as acceptable.
I cant say Samsung will be much better, but one thing is for sure: considering I haven't bought a new phone since the 6s first came out, and this 11 is over six years later, then something is seriously wrong with Apple Iphone's commitment to improvement.
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Thanks, I did, and they (one of their remote telephone/computer agent) agreed!
Its just o2 that is faffing around
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