VESA Approves Apple's Mini DisplayPort Standard

[jimmyjoemccrow]

Umm that is not the point of the picture. Look at just the connector (not all the plastic crap around it). HDMI is by far larger.

As for your comparing it to USB that is another fail. HDMI are roughly about 2 times the sides a of USB port. and they go in 2 times deeper than a US port.

I mention the plastic because it would not be uncommon for someone to use an unfair comparison on these boards. Of course I see that the mini display is still smaller, but it seemed to me he was trying to exaggerate the size of HDMI.

Take a good look at an HDMI cable next to USB (I gave up trying to get a picture I don't have a steady enough hand). The HDMI is almost exactly the same height and by my estimation one and a quarter times the width. And the USB connector is about one and a third times the length, or to use your words, goes in one and a third times deeper. The differences are not so great, and I have never, ever heard anyone complain about their USB connector being too big.

Looking more closely at that picture and my own HDMI cable they don't seem to be the same. Unless there are male and female connectors, or different regional standards?

 

[twoodcc]

dang, multiple monitors from one connector? sounds good to me

 

[bsamcash]

Maybe you should take your own advice and do your own homework - LOL. A USB cable can be extended via active hubs. I am currently running 32 feet via two daisy chained splitters form my server to my dock.

*facepalm* I have never seen anybody fail as much as you. Firewire is completely dead as seen in the market.

How arrogant can one be.

Most computers still come with FireWire. Most professional accessories and tools still use FireWire.

USB is only really useful for peripherals, it is not efficient for critical data transfers.

Just because you don't use FireWire, that doesn't mean it's dead. I use 800 everyday, and I'm sure many others do, too. And while I'm most excited about Light Peak, I've been waiting eagerly for 3200 for years. At that point, you can't tell the difference between external and internal drives with speed. USB 3 won't be that efficient.

 

[SpinThis!]

Largest reason HDMI never took off on computer is it offer nothing over DVI that is useful. For TV HDMI added a lot since it reduced the wire requirement and most TV today offer digital sound outputs to transmit to the a sound system.

Let's not forget HDMI also has licensing fees of its own.

 

[Skuman]

Fail. Completely and utterly wrong. Firewire has failed.

I wouldn't think that over a billion Firewire connectors out there is a failure.

 

[brendu]

Lots of computers and external hard drives now come with eSATA. So many, that I have now purchased an eSATA card for my MacBook Pro.

yeah after doing about 2 mins of searching for an answer to my own stupid question I realized that... thought about giving myself a 24 hour macrumors ban for asking stupid questions, but i cant stay away...

 

[Bafflefish]

Add in the fact that HDMI reqiure a lot more depth build onto the graphic card is another killer. They are already cramped for room and what HDMI would eat up would be painful deal with..

Uh, what? There are plenty of graphics cards, ranging from fairly short PCB $100 models to enthusiast $400 cards that offer HDMI. It doesn't take much to implement it...

You're right though in that one of the major reasons that it never took off was that it didn't offer much over DVI.

 

[Eidorian]

Uh, what? There are plenty of graphics cards, ranging from fairly short PCB $100 models to enthusiast $400 cards that offer HDMI. It doesn't take much to implement it...

You're right though in that one of the major reasons that it never took off was that it didn't offer much over DVI.

This sucker was $29 with free shipping last week. Note the HDMI.

 

[Bafflefish]

This sucker was $29 with free shipping last week. Note the HDMI.

I thought that there were cheaper HDMI GPUs, but I couldn't quickly find one, so didn't want to put my foot in my mouth

Yeah, the concept that HDMI makes GPUs much more complex is fairly absurd, lol.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Uh, what? There are plenty of graphics cards, ranging from fairly short PCB $100 models to enthusiast $400 cards that offer HDMI. It doesn't take much to implement it...

You're right though in that one of the major reasons that it never took off was that it didn't offer much over DVI.

True but many don't offer it. The biggest change I send is TV out has switch over. But also HDMI offer nothing over DVI and I do not even know if HDMI has the bandwith to match what DVI has.

 

[Eidorian]

True but many don't offer it. The biggest change I send is TV out has switch over. But also HDMI offer nothing over DVI and I do not even know if HDMI has the bandwith to match what DVI has.

HDMI offers audio but I have to agree that it's mainly a connector for televisions over computer displays. Given the thin line most LCD displays live in nowadays run having HDMI/DVI inputs and outputs on your video card is something you want.

I'm more fond of just sticking to DVI and Display Port on my computer hardware though. ATI also has offered DVI to HDMI conversion without losing the audio channel since the HD 38xx Series. You get another audio device to output from your available devices.

Full sized Display Port also offers a latching mechanism so there's no need to worry about disconnects like HDMI or screwing in the connector like DVI/VGA.

 

[Bafflefish]

True but many don't offer it. The biggest change I send is TV out has switch over. But also HDMI offer nothing over DVI and I do not even know if HDMI has the bandwith to match what DVI has.

HDMI actually should offer more bandwidth, since it has to deal with not only HD video data transmission, but HD audio data transmission as well. The other big difference is that, while DVI itself is capable of it, many implements of DVI have not included HDCP, while HDMI natively has. While currently it's not too big of a deal, every so often we're reminded that RIAA and MPAA's long-term goals is to have all content DRM-protected, so simply to play it on a computer would require a HDCP-capable GPU and OS connecting to a HDCP-capable monitor.

It's pretty lame, but yeah.