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I think you're confusing the terms "innovation" and "invention"

You do not "come out with" innovation... it's a progression.

Adding features... refining features... these are things that Apple does.

But just when Apple makes its biggest update yet... adding the features you say you want... you're leaving. Enjoy.



Well that took a turn for the worst. Thanks.

that's the point. For better or worse, Android devices do come out with "innovation." That's almost undeniable at this point. Oled Screens, bezzleless designs, face id, dual cameras, wireless, charging, fast charging, etc... It's blind fanboyism to be happy that Apple no longer innovates and are satisfied that Apple only "refines" things the iphone these days. Only reason I haven't switched is I genuinly hate Android. I wish I could get iOS on an samsung or pixel 2 or lg v30
 
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that's the point. For better or worse, Android devices do come out with "innovation." That's almost undeniable at this point. Oled Screens, bezzleless designs, face id, dual cameras, wireless, charging, fast charging, etc... It's blind fanboyism to be happy that Apple no longer innovates and are satisfied that Apple only "refines" things the iphone these days. Only reason I haven't switched is I genuinly hate Android. I wish I could get iOS on an samsung or pixel 2 or lg v30
the actual innovation here is making a quickcharge-capable phone and including a quickcharge-brick in the box. apple take note lol

upselling doesnt always work
 
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the actual innovation here is making a quickcharge-capable phone and including a quickcharge-brick in the box. apple take note lol

upselling doesnt always work

Adding the QuickCharge in the box will be saved for maybe the X4 in 4 yrs. Then again once they realize they are making millions from people paying $75 then there's no incentive to ever add it. So never mind.
 
that's the point. For better or worse, Android devices do come out with "innovation." That's almost undeniable at this point. Oled Screens, bezzleless designs, face id, dual cameras, wireless, charging, fast charging, etc... It's blind fanboyism to be happy that Apple no longer innovates and are satisfied that Apple only "refines" things the iphone these days. Only reason I haven't switched is I genuinly hate Android. I wish I could get iOS on an samsung or pixel 2 or lg v30

The thinking that innovation equals better is proven false with almost every Android phone "innovation". For example, initial OLED screens in Android devices provided far poorer color and resolution than what Apple was using for their LCD screens.

Sure, some of the most recent (past 12 months) high end Android devices have offered improved resolution and color performance, but you have to understand that Apple couldn't implement OLED, not because they were not "innovating", but rather because their volume, quality and yield requirements are simply greater than any current suppliers production capacity.

Bezle-less design is just a visual gimmick. There is nothing innovative about it. In particular, try using any of the Samsung curved edge screens without having to constantly adjust for screen glare at the edges. It's a bad design that results in poor UX in almost any environment that isn't completely dark.

As Apple noted with their FaceID presentation, their realization of the technology goes so far beyond what Samsung has provided, that it is actually far more secure than even fingerprint recognition.

Remind me what the Android vendors offering dual cameras were pitching it's function as? I'm not sure I remember there being any kind of user benefit, other than a spec check box.

Much like with OLED screens, wireless charging has not exactly been the panacea that people make it out to be. Between slow charging speeds and for those traveling with their devices, still the need to carry a wired puck, and lack of being able to use your device while charging equals a benefit only in certain circumstances. Apple's implementation will undoubtably drive more innovation (like their multi-device charging pad) to help make it more useful for everyone.
 
You have to activate the SIM it on an approved Android device and then just switch the cards, as far as I know.

Were it that simple... some caveats:
  1. Your iPhone won’t support Visual Voicemail out of the box with Fi. Huge issue for me.
  2. MMS and Group SMS are completely broken. Between points 1-2, why even bother?
  3. Automatic Carrier Switching doesn’t work. Icing on the cake.
  4. You don’t have the Fi app on iOS to manage your account. Not an issue but the ol' cherry on top.
Between all that and switching APN's to get Fi to work overseas (a major reason I'd switch for aside from the price), as well as worrying about having another phone handy in case it doesn't work... shame, but absolutely not worth the trouble for the convenience/savings. Better off buying a Pixel!
 
that's the point. For better or worse, Android devices do come out with "innovation." That's almost undeniable at this point. Oled Screens, bezzleless designs, face id, dual cameras, wireless, charging, fast charging, etc... It's blind fanboyism to be happy that Apple no longer innovates and are satisfied that Apple only "refines" things the iphone these days. Only reason I haven't switched is I genuinly hate Android. I wish I could get iOS on an samsung or pixel 2 or lg v30

Perhaps Apple's biggest "innovation" is iOS itself.

Remember the quote "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."

You can list all the features that Android has that Apple doesn't. That's fine.

But you also know that iOS is a huge feature that Apple has that Android doesn't.
 
The question shouldn't be whether you notice the difference between the 7 and the 8. Of course, coming from a 5S/6/6S you will notice a difference. The question is, does the difference between the 7 and the 8 justify the increased price.
I came from a 5S and decided that I can now get a 7 cheaper, and the difference to the 8 is not worth the money. For others the new features will be worth it.
 
Personally however I believe once we start using it, FaceID will be the preferred method for most.
Indeed, in 6 months, many of the folks clamoring for TouchID now are going to be among the crowd looking at people using a 6/6s/7/8 and saying, "eww, you have to touch your phone to unlock it? how barbaric!"
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I'd say given most upgraders will be coming from 6 and 6s, it would be good to do a direct comparison between those models too?
Yes, this. Actually, I'd love to see @MacRumors do a comparison table between the 6, 6s, 7, and 8. Leave out all the stuff that's the same, and list only the features where at least one of those earlier phones differs from the 8 (do a completely separate table for the Plus models, if that is wanted - don't intermingle them, we all know the Plus cameras differ from the regular sized models, for instance - would make a single table needlessly complex). I'm looking to go from a 6 to an 8, and this would be either helpful, or at least reassuring. Others considering upgrading might decide that, say, an 8 isn't worth the cost to them but a newly cheaper 7 would fit their needs.

This would also make a nice article on the theme of "here's how Apple has improved things, year-over-year, on what is mostly the same chassis".

(The fact that the 8 is still a rounded rectangle with the same dimensions as the 6 doesn't bother me in the slightest - mostly it means it'll fit my same car mount.)
 
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Really excellent snip-video again, MR.

Fair/balanced/informative, not too long, top notch production values.
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