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I honestly don't see a difference. whats the point of the screen being a little longer?? If i went from a 40 inch tv to a tv that was just a little wider instead of being both wider and higher, i wouldn't buy it.

Did you ever own a 4:3 TV? Did you upgrade to a widescreen? Then you increased the width more than the length when you did. Same concept here.

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I don't know if I'd go as far as calling MobileMe a failure. Sure, it had a rough start, but by the time I joined several months later, I never had a single problem with it.

Its gone.....
 
My wife has an Android Atrix. We are a completely Apple household. Laptops, iPhones, iPads, G4s, MacPro, iMac, etc. But when she needed to get a smartphone, she just wanted to be able to get some email and check a website or google maps when she needed. So, the Atrix was on sale for $119 at Costco and THAT's the whole reason she got it over a iPhone 4. That's it. Oh, and she curses that phone every day. 80 bucks wasn't worth it.
I was not aware that your wife was a microcosm for the world.....

Its gone.....

More like it's iCloud now, and bigger and better.
 
iPhone -> iPhone 3G "It's only faster data"
iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS "It;'s only a better camera"
iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 "It's only a new case"
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S "It's only Siri"
iPhone 4S -> iPhone 5 "It's only taller"

Every time.

When you iterate a product every year, the changes will not be huge. Look at the car industry. New models every year, a redesign every 5-10 years.

Most people buy a phone every two years because otherwise you will end up paying more to do your 1 year upgrade. The jump from the 4 to 5 will be quite large (Taller screen, much better camera, much faster speed, Siri, thinner, lighter, etc.)
 
I don't know if I'd go as far as calling MobileMe a failure. Sure, it had a rough start, but by the time I joined several months later, I never had a single problem with it.

It really was not a service failure, it was more a transitioning failure. Consumers hate to transition, migrate or move.

Apple should not have forced people to switch their email domain nor started a new one as in @me.com and @icloud.com

Personally I would have continued to have everyone's email domain as @mac.com then introduced the services me.com which is now icloud.com making it independent of the email domain. That way they can move me from one service to another without me having to create new accounts.
 
Gee golly wow.

It looks like a regular iPhone with a slightly longer screen, so there's slightly more content visible.

Thank god for a video like this to show me what that would look like.
 
Did you ever own a 4:3 TV? Did you upgrade to a widescreen? Then you increased the width more than the length when you did. Same concept here.

But we don't spend 90% of our time watching the TV on its side. I've seen one video clip on the phone in the past few weeks that was 16:9 and would benefit from a "wider" screen.
 
Looks really good. People are going to start looking at the current 3.5" iPhones just like the non-retina iPhones. It may not be obvious at first but it'll be plainly obvious once you get used to the 4" screen, just as with the retina display.
 
I rarely have my phone in landscape mode...let along watch videos on it. So this comparison to cinema standard screens is pointless.
 
A boring let-down this phone will be.

Unless you're last name is Cook, you know nothing. :rolleyes:

Funny how everyone is saying this screen will change everything. Nothing new about this screen really. Just doing what's being done that's all.
 
Has NOTHING to do with the product meeting one's needs, it is simply the reason Andriod has a higher marketshare. If anyone fails to realize this, they may also want to consider jumping off a bridge because they are oblivious to simple truths, like humans can't fly.

Humans can fly.
They just need to learn how to jump, while missing the ground.
 
Screen is still too small compared to everyone else. Very disappointed in Apple this time around so I moved to the Galaxy S3. Very nice phone I should say.

Also, please don't make demo videos that look and sound like Apple ads. Leave that to the experts.
 
$119 for atrix, rip off

+1

An iPhone 4 would have cost $20 less... even a 4S is selling for $149 ($30 more) at some locations! Over the lifetime of a smartphone plan, $30, even for an additional data plan/line on a family plan is like a few pennies in relation to the total cost.
 
This is what I'd really like to see on landscape keyboard mode:

:D :D :D :D
 

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You should get a clue man. Millions of people may prefer a larger phone. You have no idea.

And Apple clearly isn't interested in those customers who prefer to have a brick in their pocket. Apple makes products that THEY want for themselves, and clearly Apple prefers a smaller pocketable form factor. Maybe you should get a clue.

I've used the HTC OneX and GS3 extensively, and the increased UI size never seemed drastically beneficial to me. It's SLIGHTLY larger than iPhone UI, but I still used it the same way I use an iPhone. Held same distance from my eyes, zoomed into articles the same amount, etc. So the larger font size didn't change my usage much at all. So do I think the massive increase in phone size was a worthwhile tradeoff? No, because I used the phone exactly the same way, held the same distance from my eyes. It was more cumbersome to hold comfortably with one hand, and felt annoying in my pockets.

Apple feels like they designed their UI pixel for pixel at the perfect size for a fingertip. It doesn't need to be enlarged. So instead of enlarging the UI, why not do something more beneficial by displaying more information on the display. Using this for email will be a huge benefit for me. Sure, maybe it would be great if text in Safari was larger, but again the difference for me was very negligible on the GS3. And with this new iPhone display, the text WILL be larger in landscape.

I think Apple struck a very happy compromise. The benefit of increased display area and larger environment, while at the same time keeping almost the same perfect form factor. Sounds like a winner to me.
 
Since they were up and running simulaneously, not sure that's a true statement. More likely, MobileMe failed and they took those lessons and made iCloud.

Temporarily running at the same time. iCloud does everything Mobile Me and then some, but it's free(starts free). By your logic, Mountain Lion doesn't replace Lion because Lion is still being supported.
 
What it can to differently from what?

Differently from other phones (Android, Windows, BlackBerry, previous iPhones, etc). I don't buy an iPhone because it's an iPhone, because of the software, the hardware, or the way it looks... I buy it because of the blend.

If it looks good, has great hardware and runs off amazing software (iOS) I will buy it. ;-)
 
But we don't spend 90% of our time watching the TV on its side. I've seen one video clip on the phone in the past few weeks that was 16:9 and would benefit from a "wider" screen.

Wasn't arguing it's usefullness, the post I replied to said they wouldn't buy a tv if it were wider and not taller. Well, most of the world has been doing just that when they went widescreen on their TVs (perhaps they went up to an even larger size, but the fact remains that it grew in width more than it did in height).
 
This is what I'd really like to see on landscape keyboard mode:

:D :D :D :D

No. Just no. The keyboard needs to be centered. Do you even realize how awkward it would be to type on a soft keyboard that is way off centered to one side of the display?

Nw in portrait, it would be nice to have a permanent number row above the letters, but I'd prefer it to be an option rather than default.
 
YES! But you could of course view it this way as well with it cropped on left and right. But for those always preferring to see the entire image, you are correct sir.

In the actual video they show them both letterboxed, it's in the representative still pic that heads the MacRumors' article that it is at it's most misleading.
 
Temporarily running at the same time. iCloud does everything Mobile Me and then some, but it's free(starts free). By your logic, Mountain Lion doesn't replace Lion because Lion is still being supported.

Not at all. If one were a continuation of the other, they would have just migrated....but they didn't. When you upgrade from Lion to Mountain Lion, are both operating systems running simulatneously? No, you upgrade from one to the other. They clearly setup an entirely new system (that originally did not have all the same features) and made users create an entirely different login. Trust, I'm an IT admin...these systems were not the same. One failed and the other took those lessons and created something entirely new based on that.
 
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