Video Demo of What a 4" iPhone Screen Looks Like in Action

[viewfly]

Lol, while it's nice of you to try to clarify, but you gotta make sure you're giving out the right info. There is no 780p, and the highest tv format right now is 1080p. It's either 1920x1080, or a scaled proportion of that ratio to 1280x720p. P means every horizontal line of what's displayed is actual image data, "i" is interlaced, meaning every other line is actual image data.

LOL right back at you , as you only confused yourself. And also for not following the thread history here. Yes there is 720p; that is what broadcasters use. ( ps. I made a typo in using 780...my brain was thinking 720, but I typed 780 )

The point was that some are assuming that a phone screen must have 720 pixels and not the iPhone 640pixels to get high resolution for movies on a phone display. It is wrong to take a tv's 720p standard and apply it to the pixel count on a phone display.

You want to focus on ppi and the aspect ratio of 16:9

PS: it's 1080i not 1080p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

720i (720 lines interlaced) is an erroneous term found[citation needed] in numerous sources and publications. Typically, it is a typographical error in which the author is referring to the 720p HDTV format.[citation needed] However, in some cases it is incorrectly presented as an actual alternative format to 720p.[3] In fact, no proposed or existing broadcast standard permits 720 interlaced lines in a video frame at any frame rate.[4]

 

[Geckotek]

the new iPhone leaked at IFA in Germany. looked pretty legit

It's a dummy, a mockup made by a case manufacturer.

 

[terraphantm]

PS: it's 1080i not 1080p.

are you saying 1080p doesn't exist?

 

[viewfly]

are you saying 1080p doesn't exist?

Not live streaming in the USA, there is no 1080p.

from wiki, so if you don't believe me. It's a combination of resolution AND frame rate:

In the United States, 1080p over-the-air broadcasts still do not exist as of 2012; all major networks use either 720p60 or 1080i60 encoded with MPEG-2.

However, satellite services (e.g., DirecTV, XstreamHD, and Dish Network) utilize the 1080p/24 for pay-per-view movies that are downloaded in advance via satellite or on demand via broadband internet only.

At this time, no pay service channel such as USA, HDNET, etc. stream their services live to their distributors in this format (they) do not have sufficient bandwidth to provide the format streaming live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

 

[terraphantm]

Not live streaming in the USA, there is no 1080p.

from wiki, so if you don't believe me. It's a combination of resolution AND frame rate:

In the United States, 1080p over-the-air broadcasts still do not exist as of 2012; all major networks use either 720p60 or 1080i60 encoded with MPEG-2.

However, satellite services (e.g., DirecTV, XstreamHD, and Dish Network) utilize the 1080p/24 for pay-per-view movies that are downloaded in advance via satellite or on demand via broadband internet only.

At this time, no pay service channel such as USA, HDNET, etc. stream their services live to their distributors in this format (they) do not have sufficient bandwidth to provide the format streaming live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

Who said anything about live broadcast? You stated the highest resolution TV format is 1080i. TV is not limited to live broadcasts. The actual TV sets are obviously 1080p

Btw I would like some evidence that "780p" exists. As far as I'm aware 720p is it. Digital broadcast isn't like analog broadcast -- there aren't any "extra lines" used to carry other data. On another note, I don't really understand why we still define everything by horizontal lines. Actual resolution makes more sense.

 

[viewfly]

Who said anything about live broadcast? You stated the highest resolution TV format is 1080i. TV is not limited to live broadcasts. The actual TV sets are obviously 1080p

Btw I would like some evidence that "780p" exists. As far as I'm aware 720p is it. Digital broadcast isn't like analog broadcast -- there aren't any "extra lines" used to carry other data. On another note, I don't really understand why we still define everything by horizontal lines. Actual resolution makes more sense.

Boy you are itching to pick a fight? My typing 780p was an obvious typo: I typed 780 instead of 720p, and used it correctly elsewhere. Thanks for pointing it out...went back and corrected it.

The previous poster was saying 720p doesn't exit. I was focused on the 'p'. I thought, based on his post, he was trying to say it was 720i and 1080p for broadcast, when it is actually 720p and 1080i....1080p is reserved to blu ray, preloaded movies or high speed internet. And the other poster was trying to make a connection to phone screen resolution and TV 720p resolution. Different beasts.

Sorry to ruin your attempt at an 'I gotcha'... Never said there was no 1080p TV's. Just relating to the post threads on 720 TV and the new iPhone at 640 pixels

 

[swagi]

Around 5.1 inches

Now could you just please back that up?

I mean, tell me, we all know that Retina resolution is 330ppi. The current SG3 runs in at 306ppi from what I've read. It manages to get the aforementioned 1280x720 resolution in just 4.7".

My math is shoddy currently and I'm too lazy, but given the Retina resolution the screen would come in at

1280/330 -> 3.89"
720/330 -> 2.18"

Calculate the diagonal by yourself

 

[devilstrider]

Not impressed. Had that screen size a long time ago.

 

[Casiotone]

Irrelevant!

1366 x 768 Most Popular Screen Resolution, Overtakes 1024 x 768
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/1...olution-Overtakes-1024-x-768-StatCounter.html

1366 / 8 = 170.75
1366 / 16 = 85.375

Allright you won and I look stupid. (I guess I should've done some research before posting).

Still, the funny thing is that this odd 1366x768 resolution is not even perfectly 16:9, much like the rumored iPhone 5 screen.

In both cases it's the result of wanting to stretch a resolution to 16:9 while keeping the same number of pixels in one axis.

1024x768 -> 16:9 = 1365.3..x768
960x640 -> 16:9 = 1137.7..x640

There's no multiple of 16 near 1365.33.. The nearest one is 1360, that's 5.3.. pixels away. In the iPhone's case, the nearest one is 1136 at 1.7.. pixels.

I guess that modern GPUs and desktop OSes don't seem to care about those arbitrary resolutions.

But from a developer's perspective being able to use 16x16 and 8x8 pixel grids on iOS devices is a very useful thing for laying out interfaces and making 2d games, both in terms of design and programming.

 

[devilstrider]

I love how everyone here was like you don't need a screen that size and now it's all of a sudden it's ok for the screen to be that size. LOL

 

[Geckotek]

Not impressed. Had that screen size a long time ago.

Sorry, was it someone's job to impress you? Someone fire that guy!

The video's purpose is to compare the od screen vs the new screen so that current users can see the potential advantages. Nobody has said it is some miraculous or impressive new technology.

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I love how everyone here was like you don't need a screen that size and now it's all of a sudden it's ok for the screen to be that size. LOL

I still don't want bigger, but looks like I won't have a choice. I don't see a lot of ppl singing praises about this so not sure why you imply they are.

 

[Bezetos]

And Apple clearly isn't interested in those customers who prefer to have a brick in their pocket. Apple makes products that THEY want for themselves, and clearly Apple prefers a smaller pocketable form factor. Maybe you should get a clue.

(...)

I think Apple struck a very happy compromise. The benefit of increased display area and larger environment, while at the same time keeping almost the same perfect form factor. Sounds like a winner to me.

You say I should get a clue, yet you somewhat agree with me.

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What he should have said is 'Get a life' to you. Most people here are looking for Apple news and rumors, hence the site name. You are looking for a place to bicker because you like Andriod better, but deep down, know that Apple destroys it, otherwise you would go about your day like a normal person, or be on Andriod rumor sites. Thanks for reading

I think it's idiotic to assume that if you are criticizing an Apple product then you must prefer Android. It's a healthy sign when someone is looking at Apple products from a critical standpoint instead of blindly absorbing what gets thrown at them. This website is called MacRumors, not MacPraiseTheGreatAppleOrSTFU.

 

[linkgx1]

Sorry, was it someone's job to impress you? Someone fire that guy!

The video's purpose is to compare the od screen vs the new screen so that current users can see the potential advantages. Nobody has said it is some miraculous or impressive new technology.

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I still don't want bigger, but looks like I won't have a choice. I don't see a lot of ppl singing praises about this so not sure why you imply they are.

You must have small......hands.

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You say I should get a clue, yet you somewhat agree with me.

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I think it's idiotic to assume that if you are criticizing an Apple product then you must prefer Android. It's a healthy sign when someone is looking at Apple products from a critical standpoint instead of blindly absorbing what gets thrown at them. This website is called MacRumors, not MacPraiseTheGreatAppleOrSTFU.

People tend to do that here a lot for some reason. Just because you criticize something does not mean you hate that thing or prefer another.

 

[Geckotek]

You must have small......hands.

Nope, average.

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I think it's idiotic to assume that if you are criticizing an Apple product then you must prefer Android. It's a healthy sign when someone is looking at Apple products from a critical standpoint instead of blindly absorbing what gets thrown at them. This website is called MacRumors, not MacPraiseTheGreatAppleOrSTFU.

I often criticize Apple, so do many others. But some people object in an objective manner and others object in a prejudicial manner (often Android owners that love to taunt iPhone owners for some reason). Not saying you did that, (not sure what post was questioned and too lazy to read back) but some people ^^^^^^ make posts that cause the rest of us to constantly question motivations.

 

[tranmillitary]

Higher tech people (like me) have computers and iPads. No need for a larger screen on or tinkering around with a phone.

obviously you're not a techie since you don't tinker around with yours. My phone looks like a windows 8 desktop right now. Guess you didn't realize that with the notification pull/camera from lockscreen/ect that you're using now, i've been doing that since the 3gs years ago. Trust me, you're not a techie. I got an imac/iphone4s/ipad 3/macbook air/apple Tv.... along with my i7 sandy bridge with 16gb ram watercooled.

If you don't need a larger screen than just buy a 4s which will do that same thing as iphone 5.

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So you prefer the S3 yet are sticking with Apple. Makes sense!

I can't prefer another phone?? Since i'm an apple junkie means i can't like anything other than apple products??

You must be poor. Just because i own a BMW means i can't prefer a ferrari by your standards??

 

[Geckotek]

obviously you're not a techie since you don't tinker around with yours.

Lol, I AM a techie and I used to love tinkering, but as I've progressed, tinkering with my phone is small stuff. A boring hassle.

My phone looks like a windows 8 desktop right now. Guess you didn't realize that with the notification pull/camera from lockscreen/ect that you're using now, i've been doing that since the 3gs years ago. Trust me, you're not a techie. I got an imac/iphone4s/ipad 3/macbook air/apple Tv.... along with my i7 sandy bridge with 16gb ram watercooled.

Amusing, I've likely been a techie longer than you've been alive. I was moding my Palm III while you were probably in diapers. I was customizing my Sony Clie while you were probably in elementary school. But now I have different technologies I find more interesting. Overclocking my PC and making my Clie look like Windows got old years ago. Trust me, I'm a techie for a living. I just play with bigger toys now.

If you don't need a larger screen than just buy a 4s which will do that same thing as iphone 5

Really, when did they add LTE to the iPhone 4s?

 

[faroZ06]

Only slightly longer, nice 16:9 screen? Totally worth the extra length.

 

[faroZ06]

obviously you're not a techie since you don't tinker around with yours. My phone looks like a windows 8 desktop right now. Guess you didn't realize that with the notification pull/camera from lockscreen/ect that you're using now, i've been doing that since the 3gs years ago. Trust me, you're not a techie. I got an imac/iphone4s/ipad 3/macbook air/apple Tv.... along with my i7 sandy bridge with 16gb ram watercooled.

If you don't need a larger screen than just buy a 4s which will do that same thing as iphone 5.

Honestly, you just seem like a spoiled kid who likes to install hacks. There's nothing "high-tech" about making your iPhone GUI look like trash. I did it to my iPhone 1, so I know.

 

[Geckotek]

LOL I am? I bet my Car is worth more than your life.

wow, really?!? Better cover up, your immaturity is showing through.

I think we all know the clueless one. You value a car over a life. That settles it.

Almost anybody on this board can do all those things if we decided to. They aren't important life skills. Tell me, did you write your own code to do those things or just install someone else's?

 

[tranmillitary]

Lol, I AM a techie and I used to love tinkering, but as I've progressed, tinkering with my phone is small stuff. A boring hassle.



Amusing, I've likely been a techie longer than you've been alive. I was moding my Palm III while you were probably in diapers. I was customizing my Sony Clie while you were probably in elementary school. But now I have different technologies I find more interesting. Overclocking my PC and making my Clie look like Windows got old years ago. Trust me, I'm a techie for a living. I just play with bigger toys now.



Really, when did they add LTE to the iPhone 4s?

explain?? what bigger toys?? I own a BMW, a malibu wakesetter, 50 inch samsung 3d tv. My flagship PC is running at 4.9 ghz, Dual monitor. Got the Imac with airport. macbook air, ipad 3 for **** and giggles. Iphone/iphone 3/iphone 3gs/iphone 4 (soon to be iphone 4s) in a frame on my wall. I'm missing the macbook pro Retina but i'm buying the 13" version when it's out (15 inch laptops are way too big and heavy to carry around).

I don't know what more a "techie" can own.

 

[Geckotek]

explain?? what bigger toys?? I own a BMW, a malibu wakesetter, 50 inch samsung 3d tv. My flagship PC is running at 4.9 ghz, Dual monitor. Got the Imac with airport. macbook air, ipad 3 for **** and giggles. Iphone/iphone 3/iphone 3gs/iphone 4 (soon to be iphone 4s) in a frame on my wall. I'm missing the macbook pro Retina but i'm buying the 13" version when it's out (15 inch laptops are way too big and heavy to carry around).

I don't know what more a "techie" can own.

Hahaha, your TV doesn't make you techie. Your possessions don't impress me in any way. We all have them and they really don't make one person better than another.

And to be clear, I never said you weren't techie, you said I wasn't. I was only pointing out that I've been a techie so long that modding my phone and over clocking my PC no longer interest me. Not saying those aren't techie things to do...just no longer interesting for me.

By bigger toys I mean the systems I run for the very large airline I work for. I'm an Exchange and Lync architect and admin.

Edit: perhaps my photography has also been filling my techie desires lately.

 

[AppleScruff1]

This Is Going To Change Everything – All Over Again.

Like what?

 

[tranmillitary]

Hahaha, your TV doesn't make you techie. Your possessions don't impress me in any way. We all have them and they really don't make one person better than another.

And to be clear, I never said you weren't techie, you said I wasn't. I was only pointing out that I've been a techie so long that modding my phone and over clocking my PC no longer interest me. Not saying those aren't techie things to do...just no longer interesting for me.

By bigger toys I mean the systems I run for the very large airline I work for. I'm an Exchange and Lync architect and admin.

Edit: perhaps my photography has also been filling my techie desires lately.

I never said you weren't, I just implied that 99% of techies i know, they care about everything i said. All my friends who are techies, buy the new iphone, buy the new samsung, buy the new samsung nexus, buy the next iphone... rinse and repeat. They got the disposable income so that money doesn't matter.

I own all the iphones and a samsung G2 (which i bought just because i was curious, might do the same with the G3). I just never heard a techie saying that a phone, which everyone carries around with them all through the day, doesn't matter. If you just wanted to make calls and text, you could do that with any iphone. Why do u need LTE than?? you got a ipad on LTE and laptops, by your logic why do u need LTE on your phone when you got others??

 

[Geckotek]

I never said you weren't

Actually, you did.

obviously you're not a techie since you don't tinker around with yours

And very few of my techie friends tinker with their phones. But many do switch phones as you describe. I don't like switching ecosystems (which is why I'm still a PC guy).

The phone matters, but modding it is not necessary. And a big screen is not necessary. I have other devices with big screens when I need that.

I like speed...everywhere. That's why LTE.

 

[linkgx1]

Actually, you did.




And very few of my techie friends tinker with their phones. But many do switch phones as you describe. I don't like switching ecosystems (which is why I'm still a PC guy).

The phone matters, but modding it is not necessary. And a big screen is not necessary. I have other devices with big screens when I need that.

I like speed...everywhere. That's why LTE.

You're still a PC guy? Blasphemy!


Honestly, though, I think a 4'' screen is the perfect size. Coming from the Galaxy S (Vibrant), Nexus and EVO 4g...I just love the 4'' size. 4.5'' was a bit too big. Not for my hands, they're big. But trying to pocket it is exhuasting. 4'' provides enough viewing room, but not too much.. Sizes like the Galaxy Note....there's a market...but you're better off getting a tableto.

If the new iPhone has a bigger screen and is thinner, without increasing the overal size...that would be the best case scenario.