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SeaFox said:
Why can't they add something truly useful to most consumers?

Like recording?

Or a tuner?

Or three times the battery life?

They're as bad as cell phone makers.

All of these would be nice, but the most useful would be better battery life. But if it required a larger sized iPod, then it it is a no go.
 
Hmmm If Apple includes a decent-sized colour screen (eg 2.5 inches or up) and assuming they'd like to keep the size the same (or smaller... good idea), where is the clickwheel going to go??
 
My Killer App

Chip NoVaMac said:
All of these would be nice, but the most useful would be better battery life. But if it required a larger sized iPod, then it it is a no go.

I'd be happy to see alliances with the auto manufacturers and after-market installers to start making iPod docks a standard option/upgrade. I'm down with iTrip and all, but the quality is inconsistent at best.

An extra hundred bucks to put an inconspicuous iPod dock by the cup-holder? Done.
 
I suggest that more capabilities are at work here.

Apple's not going to do the video-out thing and make people walk up to their TVs to keep fixing it. They just won't.

Here's what I'm suggesting. The remote is going to be significantly altered. First, the new iPod will accept Bluetooth connections from a remote. The remote will still be simple as heck, but will now be a disconnectable control base for a TV-based barebones OSX, which will allow users to listen to music, watch videos, and flip through photos. True simplicity in multimedia.

It will still be a music player when it's off the dock, but so what? When it's on it, it's going to kick ass :)
 
Must say I am looking forward to the next evolution of the iPod. Evolve or die in the long run, and Apple can afford to keep innovating with the ipod fever about at present. I expect WWDC will have something new ipoddy for us.
 
Ipoddy...I like that.

Well, let's see what they definitely WILL do:

1) keep it aesthetically pleasing.
2) keep it easy as pie to use.
3) keep it as close to cutting edge as possible without compromising #1 and #2 above.

(Sorry...I just wanted to comment on the word ipoddy but I thought I had to add a little more.) ;)

Squire
 
MacAficionado said:
Who are they? Do they actually make the software for the iPod?

If so, then maybe this answers something, I don't know. I was looking at the legal folder in the iPod and decided to check out Portal and this I found.

http://www.portalplayer.com/news-and-events/photo_jukebox.htm

Care to speculate? :confused:

portalplayer's platform is used in other media players. what you see is not necessarily what you'll get (in the ipod at least).
 
What would be neat

What would be neat is if the iPod could transfer songs via bluetooth back and forth between iTunes and an iPod. That would be something. I guess the only problem would be transfer speed, but I'm sure Apple would think of something... :)

JOD8FY
 
4th generation, the consumers view

Let's put things straight.

4th generation ipod from a consumers point of view...

Colour screen to allow equaliser display... and of course to allow such an increase in power drain...

new battery technology, boasting greater playback.

Don't get me wrong, i love the ipod, just got the 20gig last april but... can't there be an option to turn the screen off? Wouldn't that increase the battery life and allow us to listen to more of our banging beats? I mean, its not as if you look at the screen 24/7.

Guess we shall find out in a few years time.
 
Open-Your-Eyes said:
Let's put things straight.

4th generation ipod from a consumers point of view...

Colour screen to allow equaliser display... and of course to allow such an increase in power drain...

new battery technology, boasting greater playback.

Don't get me wrong, i love the ipod, just got the 20gig last april but... can't there be an option to turn the screen off? Wouldn't that increase the battery life and allow us to listen to more of our banging beats? I mean, its not as if you look at the screen 24/7.

Guess we shall find out in a few years time.

Sorry, maybe I'm not awake yet this morning, but why exactly would you need a color screen to display an equalizer?
 
~Shard~ said:
Sorry, maybe I'm not awake yet this morning, but why exactly would you need a color screen to display an equalizer?

My apologies, I believe that I was looking for the word 'visualiser', but, not exactly a necessary feature, just something to give an object which needs little more style... more style.
 
Open-Your-Eyes said:
My apologies, I believe that I was looking for the word 'visualiser', but, not exactly a necessary feature, just something to give an object which needs little more style... more style.

Ah, gotcha, kay that makes more sense. ;) Yah, I suppose a visualizer would be a neat little extra for the iPods when they get color screens, but I wonder how many people would actually watch it constantly – I know I hardly look at my iPod when I’m playing it, and wouldn’t really have time to stare at the screen, especially when I’m running, biking or driving. ;) It would be a cool feature, but definitely not a necessity, and it would definitely be a huge battery hog, since having color screens on their own would no doubt suck the batteries pretty dry.
 
~Shard~ said:
Ah, gotcha, kay that makes more sense. ;) Yah, I suppose a visualizer would be a neat little extra for the iPods when they get color screens, but I wonder how many people would actually watch it constantly – I know I hardly look at my iPod when I’m playing it, and wouldn’t really have time to stare at the screen, especially when I’m running, biking or driving. ;) It would be a cool feature, but definitely not a necessity, and it would definitely be a huge battery hog, since having color screens on their own would no doubt suck the batteries pretty dry.

I listen to my iPod in the car and...in the car. Okay, also when I'm waiting for a oil change or waiting in the barber shop. A better battery would be the biggest (and most necessary) improvement although I've only run out of power once or twice. (It goes in the dock as soon as I walk through my front door.) As far as the other possible features are concerned, do you think they'll be truly useful or simply aimed at "keeping up with the Joneses" of the portable music market? As blatantly obvious as this sounds, I think it would be cool to have features that not only do things better than the current competition, but also trump them on a bunch more. You know, just to have the Dell engineers scrambling back to the drawing board. ;)

Squire
 
Squire said:
I listen to my iPod in the car and...in the car. Okay, also when I'm waiting for a oil change or waiting in the barber shop. A better battery would be the biggest (and most necessary) improvement although I've only run out of power once or twice. (It goes in the dock as soon as I walk through my front door.) As far as the other possible features are concerned, do you think they'll be truly useful or simply aimed at "keeping up with the Joneses" of the portable music market? As blatantly obvious as this sounds, I think it would be cool to have features that not only do things better than the current competition, but also trump them on a bunch more. You know, just to have the Dell engineers scrambling back to the drawing board. ;)

Squire

I agree – I think longer battery life would make good practical sense, but I know a lot of iPod users who, like you and I, essentially plug their iPods into the dock the second they get home – for them, perhaps longer battery life isn't a big issue. I know personally, I've been out doing things, running, biking, etc. and have maybe used up 3 or 4 hours of the battery in a single sitting, but that's about it – once I get home, back into the dock it goes! Otherwise, I'm in my car, driving, in which case I have my iPod plugged into the charger so that's a non-issue as well.

But yah, I'd like to see Apple release something that makes the Dell engineers scramble as well – something noticeably and substantially better than current features, which other MP3 player manufacturers could not ignore. :cool:
 
MontgomeryBurns said:
Airported ipod with Shared-music access. And a color screen to view album art.

I question how many people would be really into viewing their album art on the iPod though... If there was addiitonal functionality introduced with the color screen, then fine, but if it was simply for album art then a color screen would be a waste - and not just of battery life!
 
Album art is the only useful thing a color screen of that size could display. Why would you want a 2" screen for video?
 
MontgomeryBurns said:
Album art is the only useful thing a color screen of that size could display. Why would you want a 2" screen for video?

Good point - ergo, if album art is indeed the only useful thing that could be displayed on a screen that size, then we will never see a color screen on an iPod. Until the screen becomes larger or additional functionality (apart from viewing album art) is incorporated, it simply does not make sense to have a color screen on an iPod. Thanks for reaffirming my earlier post.
 
Open-Your-Eyes said:
Don't get me wrong, i love the ipod, just got the 20gig last april but... can't there be an option to turn the screen off? Wouldn't that increase the battery life and allow us to listen to more of our banging beats? I mean, its not as if you look at the screen 24/7.

I never thought of that. That seems like something apple would do, in order to make everyone happy. They'll be able to claim "up to 20 hours of music (or something close to that) with the screen off". What do you think? To me, that sounds like a very good idea.
 
johnbro23 said:
I never thought of that. That seems like something apple would do, in order to make everyone happy. They'll be able to claim "up to 20 hours of music (or something close to that) with the screen off". What do you think? To me, that sounds like a very good idea.

Doesn't Apple already incorporate similar functionality into its wireless keyboards and mice, i.e. a feature to turn off the devices when not in use to conserve battery life? I could be wrong, but that rings a bell... A similar feature for the iPods would definitely be a good idea, as many people don't really look at their iPod screens as they're listening to them except to change tracks/playlists, etc. For me, I either have my iPod hooked into my car adapter while I'm driving, or have it with me when I'm at the gym, running or biking - in all cases, I rarely ever look at the screen once I get a playlist going...
 
Things on the horizon...

Some have commented on Bluetooth -- that may happen for everything that iSync does for your iPod.

The big ones are:
1. Wireless Firewire
2. Larger, higher res color screen
3. New backlighting using "Indiglo" tech
4. Smaller form factor
5. Larger HD
6. Larger internal cache (memory)
7. 20% price decreases across the board, including the iPod mini

The video features are not going to be in the iPod -- they will be in the other one...

The photo features are going to be expanded and you'll be able to put them on a TV and create "on-the-go" type picture presentation.

Gotta run,
Quark
 
Quark said:
Some have commented on Bluetooth -- that may happen for everything that iSync does for your iPod.
...
1. Wireless Firewire
2. Larger, higher res color screen
3. New backlighting using "Indiglo" tech
4. Smaller form factor
5. Larger HD
6. Larger internal cache (memory)
7. 20% price decreases across the board, including the iPod mini
...
The photo features are going to be expanded and you'll be able to put them on a TV and create "on-the-go" type picture presentation.

Bluetooth would be nice for contacts and stuff, but of course not for music transfer. WiFi1394 would be incredible, but unlikely for a while.

Price decrease is always good and possible. Photos on the go thing is another one of those geek-o-rator bullet-point features that will be used seldom IMO.
 
Porchland said:
I'd be happy to see alliances with the auto manufacturers and after-market installers to start making iPod docks a standard option/upgrade. I'm down with iTrip and all, but the quality is inconsistent at best.

An extra hundred bucks to put an inconspicuous iPod dock by the cup-holder? Done.
That would be a great idea.

Last summer, when I was back in the states visiting I went to one dealer, who when I mentioned that I had an iPod and wanted to connect it directly via a jack, said no problem and would make the modification of adding a jack for free.

Good deal. But I had to ask as it was non standard.

Sushi
 
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