Video iPod?

[minstryoffunk]

You people are funny. Apple hasn't even announced anything yet. I think putting the music videos and movie trailers was done for two things, 1. to sell more music (it worked on me) and 2. to work out bandwidth issues for future video sales.

Anyone who thinks that selling movies on the Internet is not something that is needed now is crazy. Movies are being pirated at an alarming rate and the illegal Movie download business is quickly rivaling the illegal music download business with all the same quality issues as well.

You know what this means:

iMovie Video Store
DVD quality movies @ 99¢ each.

That could pave the way for a vPod to be sold along the iPod with a high capacity drive and increased power for video playback. Imagine the ability to carry around 100 hollywood classics in your pocket.

That would be a good place to incorporate the iSight and thus making it into a portable HD camcorder. There should be a wy for the iSight to clip directly on top, like it does with monitors currently

 

[JonGraves]

No radio in the iPod!

Why not stick a Zip100 drive in there while you are at it!

Jon

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

Need? Aren't all TVs NTSC compatable? Are you seriously worried about quality? Think about TVs, your standard TV has a resolution of about 1024x768. All stretched out over how many inches? Unlike monitors bigger TVs don't get better resolution.

Secondly I assume they'll use the same standards as they did for the powerbooks.

However this does make me question the "dock." I assume it will be doing all the computing and decompression of MPEG-4 and so on. How big is it going to be?

However, this would be the greatest idea ever. Finally a reason to spend $500 on an iPod. While my music collection is a mere 10 gigs, I could easily spend 50 gigs on video. I mean honestly, I hate it when going to some one's house to watch a movie for them to say, "Sorry I don't have a dvd player. I do have crocodile dundee on VHS though!"

Yes, it happend. Seriously.

Let's just hope they are well engineered unlike the gen 1 ipods and the mini.

Hopefully they will have HDTV quality available.

 

[ericmooreart]

Yes yes it all makes sense!!! First itunes music, then movie trailers through itunes... Next is downloadable music videos right to your pod. My prediction is September 2004

 

[ericdano]

Me either but.......

video out isnt that appealing to me tho.

Me either, but stereo recording on an iPod would!!!!!!!!!

 

[Windowlicker]

Other features I think the iPods could currently use right now:

-Color LCD
-Ability to browse you iPhoto library
-Radio

about this color lcd thing. why does everyone want it on iPods?! what's the advantage of having a color lcd on your portable aac player? I can't really think of any good use for it..

 

[Windowlicker]

You know what this means:

iMovie Video Store
DVD quality movies @ 99¢ each.

lol! i totally dropped! it might have something to do with beer, but anyway ;D

(not that it wouldn't be great to be able to dl dvd quality movies @ 99c each)

 

[whooleytoo]

This would certainly fit in with the iTunes movie icon found in the iTunes package.

Check it out:
/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunes-movie.icns

It also has MPG(iTunes-mpg.icns), MPEG4 (iTunes-mpeg4.icns), and most interestingly, MPEG4 Protected (iTunes-mpeg4p.icns) - This is in addition to AAC Protected (iTunes-aacp.icns).

 

[kiwi]

Archos always way ahead

I like the iPod but I got an Archos instead because of the audio/video/photo recording features as well as playback on lcd or TV out. Even with just audio functions, Archos had built in microphone and line in audio loooong before the iPod. The color lcd screen is fine for viewing video, even on the first generation models, mostly short clips or iMovies I made or as a viewfinder and playback of what I had recorded. At least Archos lets the user decide what they want to do as opposed to withholding these features. Apple contradicts itself when it comes to viewing video on a tiny screen. They get very excited when it is QT MPEG 4 video on a cell phone but then claim that "people don't want to watch video on a tiny screen". I agree that "background" uses such as audio are used more than "foreground" uses that require your attention such as viewing video, but at least Archos gives me that choice to make for myself. I suspect Apple is waiting more for technology that allows good form/size/battery life etc. Maybe in the future the iPod mini will be for audio and the iPod (video) for other apps such as video.

 

[Trowaman]

about this color lcd thing. why does everyone want it on iPods?! what's the advantage of having a color lcd on your portable aac player? I can't really think of any good use for it..

it ties into the picture capabilities. It is a get one get both feature. Remember, these are all jsut my opinions

 

[SiliconAddict]

You know what this means:

iMovie Video Store
DVD quality movies @ 99¢ each.

No chance in hell.

 

[Doctor Q]

You must have misread, I said it was possible, not feasible. Plus I was speaking of non coherent waves, not beams, hence the m^3. I'm sure a beam (coherent packets) has an energy measure in linear or square meters. I also know that my toothbrush is induction, point was that it was wireless. I was thinking of a way of wirelessly charging an ipod, by having a plate where you could drop it every day. You see, if you were to have just this one spot on your desk you could put the ipod, that would take care of wireless charging, and wireless firewire would take care of syncing.

You mean I bought this huge Tesla coil for nothing? I set it up in the living room so I could charge my iPod whenever I wanteded.

 

[SiliconAddict]

about this color lcd thing. why does everyone want it on iPods?! what's the advantage of having a color lcd on your portable aac player? I can't really think of any good use for it..

For that matter what use is a scroll wheel when buttons are just as good. What use is the metal finish on the back of the iPod when plain white or gray would be just as good.

Its all about the character of the device. Imagine your coverart being displayed on the top half of the screen while the track name and time remaining is below it. Is it a critical feature? Hardly, but its a feature that smacks of Apple detail.

And before someone tells me that color screens eat at battery life go pick up a color gameboy and tell me how many hours you get off of its screen. There are plenty of options available to make a color screen very battery friendly. At this point the hard drive is where the real battery drain is.

 

[Penman]

You must have misread, I said it was possible, not feasible. Plus I was speaking of non coherent waves, not beams, hence the m^3. I'm sure a beam (coherent packets) has an energy measure in linear or square meters. I also know that my toothbrush is induction, point was that it was wireless. I was thinking of a way of wirelessly charging an ipod, by having a plate where you could drop it every day. You see, if you were to have just this one spot on your desk you could put the ipod, that would take care of wireless charging, and wireless firewire would take care of syncing.

Non-coherent is fine but still not feasible. There is no efficient, safe way fo wirelessly transmitting energy. Induction's the closest we can get right now. If you don't 'beam' the energy you'll waste the vast majority of it for no good reason.

It's not too necessary. I posted a link here a while ago regarding technology allowing a full charge for a battery in 30 seconds which is available today. That'd be a far better addition for an iPod. The key is to charge the battery - being in a iPod charging energy field while you walk down the street is highly improbable.

As for color screens - phone's don't need them either. iPods are about 'I want' not 'I need' - all the cool stuff's driven that way. Even from a user standpoint, color navigation can be decidedly more elegant than monochrome. I'm sure Apple will devise a truly gorgeous interface.

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

Originally Posted by minstryoffunk

You know what this means:

iMovie Video Store
DVD quality movies @ 99¢ each.

No chance in hell.

Though I wonder if it means that we might see $9.99 DVD quality movies...

 

[ALoLA]

It might become a different issue if I could hook my iSight to the iPod and take pictures and record movies and voice stuff with preview on a color LCD in the iPod.

I like that idea. Imagine a small form factor aluminum case that matches the iSight. iSight attaches directly to Firewire port on top. Color LCD screen that can fold out and flip. So essentially, it'll look like a plam sized DV camcorder. But when not capturing video, detach the iSight and it can be used like an iPod. I think it might work.

 

[Trowaman]

about this color lcd thing. why does everyone want it on iPods?! what's the advantage of having a color lcd on your portable aac player? I can't really think of any good use for it..

WAIT!!!! NEW THOUGHT BESIDES PHOTO VIEWING!!!!

The iTunes visualizer, to go. Something to sit and watch when bored . . . or on a drug trip, who knows

*This is a joke, don't read too much into this.

 

[gobi]

Mean Girls Trailer >>> iTMS

Has anyone any clue what the girl (i don't her name nor the guy's) is talking about in the intro to the trailer? I hear her talking about downloads to the iPod...

 

[InsiderTravels]

Belkin already has that

Squire

Yeah, that Belkin card reader has one too many steps: removal of the memory card. I'd like to plug my camera right into my iPod and download that way. That would rule. Other video capabilities? Hmmm...I don't know how useful it would be on all models. Maybe the top-of-the-line would benefit by staying competitive with other video-capable products.

Amen to that!

Sorry if somebody already mentioned this but....

Didn't Belkin just announce a new device that looks almost like the card reader but is able to transfer images directly from your camera to the iPod? I saw it on their website a few days ago, but at that time it wasn't actually available for purchase yet.

 

[Squire]

Sorry if somebody already mentioned this but....

Didn't Belkin just announce a new device that looks almost like the card reader but is able to transfer images directly from your camera to the iPod? I saw it on their website a few days ago, but at that time it wasn't actually available for purchase yet.

Digital Camera Link for iPod w/Dock Connector
Thanks for pointing that out.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProd...&Section_Id=201526&pcount=&Product_Id=173207#

I posted a thought on this site last year and maybe I will turn out to be right after all...

The Ipod would make a perfect DV hard disk recorder. Plug it into your DV camcorder and as well as spooling the footage to your tape, the camcorder writes it out to the iPod hard drive. Each take you shoot is saved to a seperate file and when you want to edit the footage you just plug the ipod into your Mac and the files are there - no grabbing footage - all your cuts and takes already nicely split into files. DV Camcorders already all send the start and stop signals as well as timecode nicely out of the DV port.

I shot an hour and 40 minutes of video with my DV camcorder a little while back. Once imported, it ended up being over 20 gigs. There would be no room left for my 16 gigs of music. (Of course a 50 GB hard drive would do the trick.)

I like that idea. Imagine a small form factor aluminum case that matches the iSight. iSight attaches directly to Firewire port on top. Color LCD screen that can fold out and flip. So essentially, it'll look like a plam sized DV camcorder. But when not capturing video, detach the iSight and it can be used like an iPod. I think it might work.

A few people have mentioned an iPod-iSight contraption. Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't that be an awkward device to drag around? (Of course, they'd probably announce some accessories to make it more appealing.)

Maybe I'm not being creative enough in my thinking but I think longer battery life and a color screen are the only improvements we'll see on the iPod itself; the dock's a different story.

Squire

 

[jared_kipe]

Non-coherent is fine but still not feasible. There is no efficient, safe way fo wirelessly transmitting energy. Induction's the closest we can get right now. If you don't 'beam' the energy you'll waste the vast majority of it for no good reason.

It's not too necessary. I posted a link here a while ago regarding technology allowing a full charge for a battery in 30 seconds which is available today. That'd be a far better addition for an iPod. The key is to charge the battery - being in a iPod charging energy field while you walk down the street is highly improbable.

As for color screens - phone's don't need them either. iPods are about 'I want' not 'I need' - all the cool stuff's driven that way. Even from a user standpoint, color navigation can be decidedly more elegant than monochrome. I'm sure Apple will devise a truly gorgeous interface.

I said it wasn't feasible. The problem with coherent is that there is no way it would really be able to work, you would need the source to either track your ipod, or you would have to place your ipod in the same spot every day to charge it. The reason I said non coherent is because it has an inkling of working, but like we BOTH said, you would waste power into empty space (or not so empty, causing brain tumors). I also never mentioned the possibility of having a charging magnetic induction field (which could totally work, it is after all the basis of what one guy said earlier a Tesla coil, and ALL other power transformers, and now that I think about it, thats pretty genius too because you could use wall current in the base coil, no reason to change voltage as the number of windings inside the ipod would handle that) be while you were walking down the street. Thats like suggesting that your ipod would sync to whoever's computer it got near. Remember that all wireless transmission protocols for computers are simply antenna based simple waves. It should only charge on an ipod charging base station, most likely where you would be within the aforementioned wireless firewire. The beauty would be that it wouldn't have to come out of it's case (unless you had some awesome metal one that acted as a Faraday cage).

I two would find it ENORMOUSLY cool to play video or music video on a nice little screen. Who cares if it is small, you can get it 5 inches from your freaking eyes, that makes it like ... like huge!!! I also would find it enormously useful to have some kind of input (pen or otherwise) to search for music, or enter data into a new and improved PDA like subsystem. Maybe we could get another branch of iPods, one with color and PDA type functionality, and one with just large music. Or maybe just make the mini into the music only ipod, and make the real iPod into video PDA. All I can say is if they include only album art and itunes visuals, I'm gonna have to skip the next ipod.

And with that said, I might need to start using this one...
"Don't read too much into this, it was a joke(about the likely hood of charging by EM radiation, though I like the idea of charging through current induction)"

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

Squire

Yeah, that Belkin card reader has one too many steps: removal of the memory card. I'd like to plug my camera right into my iPod and download that way. That would rule. Other video capabilities? Hmmm...I don't know how useful it would be on all models. Maybe the top-of-the-line would benefit by staying competitive with other video-capable products.





Amen to that![/QUOTE]

Nice idea, but with the current crop of cameras this would require going through the USB 1 port that most digital camera have. Too slow for what i think you are looking for. And would still require you to reformat your card.

For video cameras it would be easier, because of the Firewire ports.

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

I two would find it ENORMOUSLY cool to play video or music video on a nice little screen. Who cares if it is small, you can get it 5 inches from your freaking eyes, that makes it like ... like huge!!! I also would find it enormously useful to have some kind of input (pen or otherwise) to search for music, or enter data into a new and improved PDA like subsystem. Maybe we could get another branch of iPods, one with color and PDA type functionality, and one with just large music. Or maybe just make the mini into the music only ipod, and make the real iPod into video PDA. All I can say is if they include only album art and itunes visuals, I'm gonna have to skip the next ipod.

You are right on. People seem to be happy with the phone screens for small videos.

I know that I would be happy if Apple came out with the Maxi iPod. It would sized along the lines of the Pocket PC. With a larger HDD (or maybe 2 of the iPod HDD's installed), a color screen that would allow better video viewing, and stylus input on that screen.

 

[BeakerAndGreg]

My guess is

If the next ipod does have a color screen, it will simply to be used to display the same album art you can display in itunes now. Then maybe a few interface changes since color could add to it a bit.

 

[SeaFox]

Why can't they add something truly useful to most consumers?

Like recording?

Or a tuner?

Or three times the battery life?

They're as bad as cell phone makers.