Looks like I'll finally be able to ditch my PCs when the Intel PowerMacs come out now. I'm so excited; and I just can't hide it...
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Video of Windows XP Booting on iMac
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Mine's already gone but I'm with you! XP Gaming machine!GFLPraxis said:
I can't understand those that point to this video (or the pics from Monday) and claim "fake"; there's enough evidence to the contrary.
I rated this thread as negative. For me Apple computers represent a product that is exclusive, when you factor the fact that you can add a Microsoft OS onto a Apple computer, it makes it less exclusive.
I think a big part of Apple's success as far as ease of use is concerned has to do with their tight integration within their own products. For example iTunes and the iPod. If they loose this and allow Microsoft's OS to boot up on Apple's computers who knows what will happen. We may find more virus's heading our way, or we might find all other windows glitches on our Apple computers. I can understand how people need applications that just run on Microsoft's OS, but if that's the case don't buy a Apple computer, or buy both. Just my two cents.
Ken
I think a big part of Apple's success as far as ease of use is concerned has to do with their tight integration within their own products. For example iTunes and the iPod. If they loose this and allow Microsoft's OS to boot up on Apple's computers who knows what will happen. We may find more virus's heading our way, or we might find all other windows glitches on our Apple computers. I can understand how people need applications that just run on Microsoft's OS, but if that's the case don't buy a Apple computer, or buy both. Just my two cents.
Ken
I would rather have virtualization... but oh well. I really don't see myself partitioning my MBP HDD.
On the other hand... I WANT GAMES... AND A TOOL TO DIS MY MAC HATING FRIENDS!!!!!!
On the other hand... I WANT GAMES... AND A TOOL TO DIS MY MAC HATING FRIENDS!!!!!!
Peace said:
I always thought this would be the case regardless. It would be very cool for Jobs to announce that Leopard runs natively on PCs - and ideally that Leopard would have an earlier release date than Vista.
"Microsoft is about to release 10.4 Tiger - er, Vista. Well, we're going to repalce that year-old OS with Leopard before it's even released. And it runs on PCs."
idiot savants?
What's with narf2006 and/or blanka?
They can hack the hell out of a Mac, BIOS, Windows XP, etc., but they can't operate a camera, video or still.
It wasn't just the motion making me sick, though. It was pretty disquieting to watch Windows boot up on that iMac.
...and I contributed $20 to the contest.
Anyway, contragulations to narf et. al. and thanks. I'll be able to afford a MacBook quicker now that I don't have to get a new Windows machine too.
What's with narf2006 and/or blanka?
They can hack the hell out of a Mac, BIOS, Windows XP, etc., but they can't operate a camera, video or still.
It wasn't just the motion making me sick, though. It was pretty disquieting to watch Windows boot up on that iMac.
...and I contributed $20 to the contest.
Anyway, contragulations to narf et. al. and thanks. I'll be able to afford a MacBook quicker now that I don't have to get a new Windows machine too.
kjs862 said:
It does bring up some important questions regarding drivers, compatibility, performance, and security. For instance, what if the machine is infected with a virus while running Windows? What if it performs some OS-agnostic activity on the machine, i.e. frying the HDD or something? Then OS X's secuirty is irrelevant.
One way or the other, for good or for worse, this will make things a whole new ballgame.
Hah! There you go!
Well, everyone in the last thread who doubted the accomplishment, time to eat the big black bird.
Oh, and fyi, all it takes to whack any problem is a little bit of brains and a lot of perspective. Any problem is easy if you look at it the right way.
Well, everyone in the last thread who doubted the accomplishment, time to eat the big black bird.
Oh, and fyi, all it takes to whack any problem is a little bit of brains and a lot of perspective. Any problem is easy if you look at it the right way.
all of you who think you can throw away your PCs are jumping the gun, even if the video is indeed real. who knows how much hacking went on and what the repercussions will be to your mac. hacking EFI is not something to be taken lightly and whether or not this will be a viable alternative to other BIOS emulators is uncertain.
it's still pretty cool, though...although i'd never put windows on my mac, it's a cool feat.
it's still pretty cool, though...although i'd never put windows on my mac, it's a cool feat.
The naysayers about the video amaze me. These guys dont have much motivation to fake a complete video. And they most likely care less about "proving" anything to anyone beyond what they have shown. They post images, you guys think they are pshopped. They post a video, and its VPC running. They are most busy getting this thing ready-to-release than producing a professional video.
I hope to be running windows on my MBP, with Solidworks and other PC programs soon, I cant wait!
I hope to be running windows on my MBP, with Solidworks and other PC programs soon, I cant wait!
*running to the toilet* i don't know which is wourse. I think Microsoft should release a version of XP for the "mac" cause a lot of people would use it who are force to use that one annoying application (solitaire) that available for PC only~Shard~ said:I think many other Mac purists would be sick after watching it as well, moreso due to the content rather than the motion itself however.
iSee said:
I guess that would be one way to look at it too. In my situation, my seldom-used PC in about 8 years old. It still runs perfectly fine and everything, and runs great with XP, but if it died on me, I would be hard-pressed to justify purchasing a new PC for the limited use I get out of it. Even a $400 Dell would be a hard sell for me. But, if I could use my existing Mac's hardware and just load XP/Vista on it to meet my needs, that would make a lot more sense.
Sweet. The only reason I would like XP is for playing games, and I'm sure there are some people on the same boat as me. Plus it'll feel kinda cool to have two OS's on one computer
simie said:
It's so wobble because it was done without a tripod and it wasn't a steady cam. I hate to say this but the windows logo on the white/gray background actually looked good. My question is can you do this from an external HD because I would only use Windows so often for specfic projects.
kugino said:
Totally agree - that machine might boot up XP just fine, but runs it slower than molasses in January - as the OS X partition (or however it is set up) might be forever damaged.
But this at least shows that it can be done, and in the future, it may indeed become a viable, stable option. I know I personally will not be applying any type of hack like this until the risks are gone.
iSee said:What's with narf2006 and/or blanka?
They can hack the hell out of a Mac, BIOS, Windows XP, etc., but they can't operate a camera, video or still.
It wasn't just the motion making me sick, though. It was pretty disquieting to watch Windows boot up on that iMac.
...and I contributed $20 to the contest.
Anyway, contragulations to narf et. al. and thanks. I'll be able to afford a MacBook quicker now that I don't have to get a new Windows machine too.
Anyone who ever (tried) to "photoshop" a video, knows it's a lot harder to edit an unstable picture, I think that's mainly the reason he doesn't use a tripod
Also, I would be pretty exited seeing Windows boot on an iMac, with shaky hands and such.
This is a small step for man, but a giant leap for Apple
usarioclave said:
Yeah, the Engineer in me loves problem solving like this.
usarioclave said:
Okay - solve poverty then.
I can't see much good coming out of this.
When all kinds of people have Windows on their Macs and they start getting all the viruses that go along with it, think of the bad press Apple is going to get. They'll never mention that it's *Windows* getting the viruses, just that thousands of viruses are on peoples' Macs.
And since security (through obscurity or otherwise) is one of Apple's big plusses right now, when that's gone (rightly or wrongly), then what?
Not to mention that dual-booting is a pain in the a$$. I had to do it several times a day for two months, and it was horrific.
If we want to climb into the conspiracy theory tree, we never saw anyone operating anything. It could have been a video playing fullscreen.
When all kinds of people have Windows on their Macs and they start getting all the viruses that go along with it, think of the bad press Apple is going to get. They'll never mention that it's *Windows* getting the viruses, just that thousands of viruses are on peoples' Macs.
And since security (through obscurity or otherwise) is one of Apple's big plusses right now, when that's gone (rightly or wrongly), then what?
Not to mention that dual-booting is a pain in the a$$. I had to do it several times a day for two months, and it was horrific.
If we want to climb into the conspiracy theory tree, we never saw anyone operating anything. It could have been a video playing fullscreen.
~Shard~ said:But now I can get rid of my PC and use ZSNES and PokerStars on my Mac!
you know there is Snes9x for mac os x right?
age234 said:
That's why there's 2 options I know of. Do it like this guy and have it boot on up like a regular pc or use an emulator. The emluator will provide an added layer of protection to the rest of your harddrive. It just depends on your needs.
Congrats to them. I'm sure they probably had a lot of fun doing it too! It's always fun to troubleshoot when you want to, so a big congrats to them. Sure, the camera was shaky and compression sucked. I'd like to see them re'encode in H.264 so we can get some good sharp video on it.
Although i wasn't expecting it, I thought the Windows logo on white was pretty darn cool. Even though I don't think Windows is pretty darn cool.
Although i wasn't expecting it, I thought the Windows logo on white was pretty darn cool. Even though I don't think Windows is pretty darn cool.