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Could somebody tell me if the Magic Mouse is comfortable for extended use? Because at the Apple Store, I feel like I have to practically hover my hand over the mouse since it is so thin.
 
You cannot deny the fact that the ligtning cable quality is substandard. I still have my 1st iphone 30 pin cable laying around in my garage. I examined it few weeks ago and still thinking that cable really is durable. The problem with the lightning cable is the fraying close to the connector side. I still don't undertand why this cable breaks easily. Apple most likely made this thing substandard just so they can sell more. It's the only reason I can think of because they would have improved the quality if they want to, they already done it before.

Technically, I can deny that the quality is substandard. None of my apple cables (30 pin, lightening, MBP) have ever frayed. Zero. I have never purchased an apple cable to replace a cable. I have only purchased apple cables for convenience (i.e. so I do not have to carry one with me).
 
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The sheaths on mine tend to disintegrate, and I don't handle them roughly. Maybe it's the humidity, the temperature, or the type of light they are exposed to.

Thankfully, there are third-party lightning cables that are Apple certified, last longer, and cost less than the Apple versions, so I don't have to spend thousands on dehumidifiers, or build a cold room just to test those hypotheses.

My cables have lived through humidity (Newport Beach and Irvine) and heat (Scottsdale). You are unplugging it wrong... :)
 
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Wonder if the magic mouse 2 will like my desk. The first one didn't work properly on it at all for some reason even though its just wooden.
 
My cables have lived through humidity (Newport Beach and Irvine) and heat (Scottsdale). You are unplugging it wrong... :)
Maybe so. But the third-party cables are built to handle whatever I'm normally doing, and the Apple ones fail miserably.
 
Had all 3 devices delivered today. Keyboard feels nice, trackpad is huge and works well, mouse is underwhelming. And why oh why have the charging port on the bottom of the mouse
 
You cannot deny the fact that the ligtning cable quality is substandard.
Compared to the mishandling of most people I agree with that but the cable quality still isn't the actual issue, the mishandling of cables is. A lot has to do with people not caring about their stuff at all nowadays. If it is broken they'll just replace it.

The problem with the lightning cable is the fraying close to the connector side. I still don't undertand why this cable breaks easily.
Usually caused by tying it up way too tightly and also doing it when the cable is a bit on the warm side: people use the charger and when it is done they pack it away. The downside to that is that both the cable, the charger and the device are still warm due to charging. Some people yank the cable instead of pulling the plug. A colleague of mine has the cable hooked up to his computer and when he is done charging he removes the cable which usually drops on the floor after some time. It amazes me that he still hasn't run over it with his chair or that someone stepped on it.

And yes there are also things at play that are not caused by the user. Things like temperature and humidity. Some plastics can't stand UV-light very well, and some become brittle over time, especially when they have a lot of heat up - cool down processes (like from charging).

Combine the lot and you get fraying cables and what not.

Could somebody tell me if the Magic Mouse is comfortable for extended use? Because at the Apple Store, I feel like I have to practically hover my hand over the mouse since it is so thin.
That's exactly how the mouse works in reality. A lot of people dislike it for exactly that reason. It results into cramping hands.

Anyway, I'll be getting my Magic Trackpad 2 tomorrow; I'm very curious how the force touch will work out as well as the larger surface (how will the acceleration be?)!
 
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I noticed that the new magic-accessories all require Mac OS X 10.11.

I will be interested to know how hard this requirement is. Will they truly not work with older versions of Mac OS X or will they work as the previous generation of BlueTooth accessories did, just without the new features (like force-touch, which probably requires a device driver that Apple isn't going to ship for older versions of the OS.)

Do people really eat through lightening cables that quickly? I have had all of mine since the release day of the 5s. Zero issues. I must be an anomaly...
I'm still using the original Lightening cables that came with my phone (about 1.5 years old now.) I've bought several more so I can plug it in to my computer, car, chargers, etc. without transporting them, but I haven't had any break.

My daughter, on the other hand, abuses her cables. They rarely last longer than 2 months. Her phone is always attached to an external battery brick. When she uses the phone, she rests it on the table, resting it on the pinched end of the cable. And when she puts it away, the cable (and battery brick) is wrapped tightly around it and shoved into a backpack. And when I tell her not to abuse her equipment like that, she gets all indignant and denies that she's doing anything wrong. Oh the joys of being the parent of a teenager....

Monoprice for lightning cables. Less expensive and substantially more durable.
I've been buying Anker cables from Amazon. When purchased in 2-packs, they're not too expensive ($6.50 each.) Considering the rate my daughter burns through them, that's really important. (I've seen cheaper ones available, but none with MFi certification and good reviews.)
 
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The change in key travel/mechanism on the keyboard was a suicidal move.

I think I'm going to hold onto the MacBooks Pro with the regular chiclet keys for as long as possible until I absolutely need new hardware/features. The MacBook butterfly switches/travel space is disgusting.

Luckily, Apple did not make that "suicidal" move :)

This new keyboard does not use the MacBook-style keys with "butterfly" switches. Those are found only where maximum thinness was the goal: the MacBook and the iPad Pro Smart Keyboard.

This new keyboard still has "scissor" switches, with greater travel.
 
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Technically, I can deny that the quality is substandard. None of my apple cables (30 pin, lightening, MBP) have ever frayed. Zero. I have never purchased an apple cable to replace a cable. I have only purchased apple cables for convenience (i.e. so I do not have to carry one with me).
The first batch of lightning cables in 2012 had serious quality issues and I had 3-4 of them all frayed after some time. The quality has since then been noticeably improved. No further lightning cable has this problem.
 
Do people really eat through lightening cables that quickly? I have had all of mine since the release day of the 5s. Zero issues. I must be an anomaly...
I've had one cable go bad, replaced in warranty. But that's out of at least ten - four iPhones (since the original 5), three iPads (since the original Mini), plus three of the 2-meter cables that I travel with.

I will say this, the 2m versions are significantly beefier. I can easily tell the difference just by looking at or feeling the Lightning end of the cable.
 
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Prefer my Razer Ouroboros mouse thanks compared to this garbage MM2. Im baffled why they first dumped the clear plastic packaging for cardboard - both recyclable. Then they decided to remove the LED to advise if the mouse is on or off without having to verify on the mac. The decision to dump batteries is stupid because you are now for forced to rely on a cable when the battery dies, instead of just popping in two batteries. Apple hate giving people a choice. Plus the price jumped from AU$89 to $199 in one hit - should all be the same price as previous models.

As for the new keyboard which is used on the latest macs, the keyboard travel is too low and the keys are too flat. It's like typing on a piece of concrete - very little movement which is no good for touch typer's like myself. Key travel should never be compromised. I also wanted backlighting which could be turned off or on, for this price.

As for the new trackpad - essentially a larger version of the previous one with a different design. Again like the new mouse, the reliance on internal batteries is not a good idea without the option to use AA as well. It almost looks identical, but to remove a single power led is absolutely ridiculous as this shifts reliance for basic info to the computer. Honestly, since Tim Cook took over innovation has gone backwards - its all about making minor changes over many years and when we compare the previous products to the new - the previous are better.

It appears Apples' way of doing things is to remove features compared to the previous model and charge more for less. There should be laws against this.
 
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Do people really eat through lightening cables that quickly? I have had all of mine since the release day of the 5s. Zero issues. I must be an anomaly...

Yeah I still have every single one, and all work fine. At least a dozen or so.
 
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Do people really eat through lightening cables that quickly? I have had all of mine since the release day of the 5s. Zero issues. I must be an anomaly...


Only people that don't take care of their stuff. Ive had all of mine since new as well. I have even kept older ones and sold the new ones with my phone when I replace it so they went with a new cable. My wife is always constantly pulling it out from the cord instead of the connector and hers are trashed.
 
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