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It's a ridiculous question. Beyond ridiculous. You have nothing to offer this conversation.
If it wasn’t native and there were no third party apps that serve this functionality, then would it be necessary to you? It’s a hypothetical, but it’s far from ridiculous. The only thing ridiculous is your dismissive attitude. It’s a simple question.
 
Windows can do everything that the Mac can do, I don't even know what you are talking about. You can indeed use non-fullscreen windows and drag and drop files in Windows... ever heard of "windows key + D" in windows?
It can do similar things just not in the same way. I like both Windows and MacOS. I just updated my custom built PC at home to Windows 11 for some of the more Mac like additions they have brought. Hot corners and spaces are big things for me and just not there in windows. I have different things set for each corner of the screen, it allows me to navigate around the OS more fluidly and quickly. Flick of the wrist and I see my desktop, grab what I need, hit that corner to bring everything back and drop it where it needs to be dropped. Windows does not have the same fluidity at the moment, at least not natively.
 
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Wow, a thread dedicated to a video of Stage Manager on iPadOS; yet more than half of it is an argument about macOS & Windows, well, windowing...
 
Looks frustrating to me, like they are so close to giving us a full Mac OS from an iPad when connected to an external screen, but they stopped just a little too soon before getting there. To me this is a no brainer and Microsoft had this great idea years ago and did it with their Windows phone. Plug your phone into a screen and get a normal version of Windows running on your computer (think it was an arm version, but looked and ran like Windows). Here we have an iPad with an M1 chip, plenty fast enough to run Mac OS, but instead of letting you do that they give what looks like a frustrating user experience instead. I say frustrating because it is so very close to letting us use an iPad like a normal computer. Personally I think they are not going to go this route because I am guessing it would eat into their laptop sales.
Apple could easily do this w/iPhone, too.
 
Wow, a thread dedicated to a video of Stage Manager on iPadOS; yet more than half of it is an argument about macOS & Windows, well, windowing...
Macative had nothing else to offer except saying somehow Windows is garbage, in some way, even though nobody has a problem with it, but people do have a problem with Mac OS lacking something like Windows snap.

Hint for people though, I just helped an 80 year old senior, you can double-click the title bar in Mac OS like in Windows to get something similar to a proper "maximize" but imo the button should do that.
 
Apple could easily do this w/iPhone, too.
They could, but I always thought this wouldn't be as useful as it sounds at first. On the go, where are all the keyboard/mouse/monitors sitting around without a computer waiting for a phone to plug in- and once you do, now you can't step away for a minute and take your phone with you without "disconnecting" your computer. And if it's one of those phone-inside-a-laptop-shell things, if you're going to carry that thing around why not carry around a laptop for the versatility of two devices.
I think seamless access/sync to your data from your handheld and your computer(s) is more practical.
 
Seems very intrusive to me and taking up space on the left side.
I just prefer simple workspaces / virtual desktops.
 
Works like garbage on Windows. Sounds like you've never actually used either of them.
I use both multiple hours per day. I prefer window management as on Windows, but can also work with window management as on MacOS. There isn't a single best way for everyone, and apparently it works like garbage on Windows for you. It doesn't work like garbage for many others.
 
I didn’t know that, but this still isn’t the same as shortcut keys, which I use about 6 or more different window management shortcuts constantly. There’s also top of screen, bottom of screen, center screen, quickly moving windows between displays and instant maximize without having to ever use my mouse.
You sure seem to have a lot of opinions about macOS/iPadOS multitasking for someone who didn't know about something as foundational as the split view functionality in macOS. Which has been there for half a decade or more.

..really I don't mean to come off as testy as that, I can see you're arguing in good faith here. It's just annoying that people always bitch about the lack of "conventional" multitasking in iPadOS when it seems like they'd actually be happy with an enhanced version of what Apple has already given us. Suppose Apple decided to allow horizontal split views, or splits within splits (like say, a horizontal app on top, and three vertical side by sides below), with the limitations on the number of splits and apps being based on screen size and memory requirements (on both Macs and iPads). Assuming the UI for doing this was simple enough - which would be tough to pull off, admittedly - would this address your workflow needs? It's a serious question. I feel like Stage Manager exists almost to demonstrate just how annoying multiple overlapping windows can be, especially on small screens. It just makes me love split view (+ slide over, PiP, quick notes, replyable pop-op notifications, etc) that much more as a truly superior multitasking system. I just don't think people who for some reason see the Windows 95 multitasking model as the be-all end-all of productivity have really given it a shot.
 
I've used BetterSnapTool for a long time. There is no need for the Mac to natively implement it.
BetterSnapTool is great, I can't imagine using a Mac without it. It costs $3 though, but if I'm spending thousands on a Mac might as well get this one too.

It doesn't hurt for Apple to natively implement it though, it's a nice addition so I don't see why not.
 
You sure seem to have a lot of opinions about macOS/iPadOS multitasking for someone who didn't know about something as foundational as the split view functionality in macOS. Which has been there for half a decade or more.

..really I don't mean to come off as testy as that, I can see you're arguing in good faith here. It's just annoying that people always bitch about the lack of "conventional" multitasking in iPadOS when it seems like they'd actually be happy with an enhanced version of what Apple has already given us. Suppose Apple decided to allow horizontal split views, or splits within splits (like say, a horizontal app on top, and three vertical side by sides below), with the limitations on the number of splits and apps being based on screen size and memory requirements (on both Macs and iPads). Assuming the UI for doing this was simple enough - which would be tough to pull off, admittedly - would this address your workflow needs? It's a serious question. I feel like Stage Manager exists almost to demonstrate just how annoying multiple overlapping windows can be, especially on small screens. It just makes me love split view (+ slide over, PiP, quick notes, replyable pop-op notifications, etc) that much more as a truly superior multitasking system. I just don't think people who for some reason see the Windows 95 multitasking model as the be-all end-all of productivity have really given it a shot.
None of anything you're talking about has any relevance to my workflow or what I've been talking about literally this entire time because macOS doesn't have native window snapping. That's the only thing I'm talking about. I don't care what else macOS can do. I use a great deal of multitasking functionality that macOS has to offer. macOS still doesn't have window snapping. That is the only thing I'm talking about and that seems to bother you. It's not my opinion that macOS still lacks native window snapping like Microsoft Windows has. That's just a simple fact. I can get acquire this functionality using free tools like Rectangle, so it's not a deal breaker.


It doesn't hurt for Apple to natively implement it though, it's a nice addition so I don't see why not.
It's this mentality people have that just boggles my mind. "It doesn't need this native feature because you can pay money for it!" Yes, that is certainly true. We're just saying it would be nice if it were native. That's it. It doesn't get any more complicated than this thought process. I use an app to have this functionality and it suits my needs. It's just a very basic feature that would make things such as Stage Manager more sensical.
 
None of anything you're talking about has any relevance to my workflow or what I've been talking about literally this entire time because macOS doesn't have native window snapping. That's the only thing I'm talking about. I don't care what else macOS can do. I use a great deal of multitasking functionality that macOS has to offer. macOS still doesn't have window snapping. That is the only thing I'm talking about and that seems to bother you. It's not my opinion that macOS still lacks native window snapping like Microsoft Windows has. That's just a simple fact. I can get acquire this functionality using free tools like Rectangle, so it's not a deal breaker.

What I'm saying is that the default split view IS a form of window snapping; it's just limited to two apps. What if it wasn't? And since this thread is actually about iPadOS and stage manager vs split view multitasking, I'm asking if an enhanced version of split view wouldn't in fact be the answer to both the people complaining about the "snapping" thing and the ones who think iPadOS is a toy unless you can keep a mess of 15 variously sized overlapping windows on the screen at once and somehow be productive with that.
 
I move between Windows at work and macOS at home, for certain tasks my productivity suffers in macOS with the windows mess. Like you said you need third party apps to do what Windows has built-in and don't even get me started with the close/minimise/maximise mess or dragging an item into another window - stuff that Windows does perfectly.

This is a pretty good breakdown of the window management mess in macOS:

I watched your video and I say again that every single complaint can be very easily fixed in a matter of a minute or two by installing 3rd party software.

Ok, I get it, it’s 3rd party instead of built it. Yeah, it’d be nice if Apple could fix these things themselves, but ultimately… who cares? People who talk about switching operating systems over these issues are being silly. There are all kinds of actually significant pros and cons of the various operating systems, it’s simply ridiculous to let this issue, which is easily solved, be the thing that convinces you one way or the other.
 
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Am I the only one that in my iPadPro 12.9 M1 5th Gen iPadOS 16beta I cannot get desktop extension on external USB-C Display?
Only a screen-mirror of iPad content...
 

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