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Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
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"I have a friend who constantly bombards people with how foolish their stuff is. Inevitably, someone talks him into using something, and he jumps on the bandwagon after whining for years. Pretty frustrating."
I don't constantly bombard people about how foolish their stuff is (I don't care about people enough to do that often), no one talks me into using anything (in fact it is the opposite), and I don't ever jump on bandwagons. So again, your assessment of me is 100% incorrect.
Nope, they still look like you've got snot dripping out of your ears.
It's a tradeoff, you look ridiculous, but you value what the tech gives you over how you look.
MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.
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Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.
While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.
Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.
Article Link: Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
The critical KEY parts of reviewing/previewing the tech has not been done:
Typing!
FaceTiming your OWN contacts (ensuring connectivity and real world usage)
photo and video recording ... testing real world use AND how it can/could be previewed on a regular iPhone, iPad or Mac!!!!
This would've been better to not have logged this at all and let us just believe what we see in the WWDC.
LMAO ... honestly you gotta admit @spazzcat that @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️ 's sorrority party pic above is really golden comedy with the Vision Pro edit!!
The first few people in a room will definitely be looking like that!
I cannot wait for a marketing or visual arts company that has a team using Vision Pro and with one of them that damaged it while drinking and too afraid to say something about it (due to high co$t) and attend the meeting and bumping into people during a live FaceTime collaboration cause the camera's are not working.
I'm really curious if the sensors actually warn about static objects in your walking path? !
Whereas I, too, generally prefer text, this video description was compelling enough that I just re-watched it and forwarded the link to others. Here, Dan's expressions and tone went beyond words to convey just how moved he was by the experience, and this video was much more compelling than anything I've yet read about VP. For the first time, I might actually consider VP, a device that I previously thought was rather dumb and limiting, as nothing bores me more than video games.
I'd wear these but the price isn't right. $3K isn't enough. I'd say that for $800 a month or more I'd be willing to wear them 40 hours a week.
So what? That is what these threads are for, to share our thoughts and opinions. That doesn't change my point from the post you just commented on.Ha! You've been all over this thread making sure that your opinion is well represented. For a product that you claim has no interest to you, you sure can't seem to leave it alone
Fully agree. It’s absolutely ridiculous…. Aluminum and a lot of glass in a VR headset? Who has chosen those absurd materials for this?? for VR headset you MUST minimize as much weight as you can (polymer, carbon fiber…), not heavy materials like aluminum and glass.
Furthermore, 0 comments on AI. Fabulous!!
The title calls this a review - it is not.
The functionality of the Vision Pro is to use a virtual keyboard on ANY flat surface - so what was this not tested?!
That is the concern. Not everyone nor in every situation one will connect a Mac to use its keyboard. Actually from all I've read, you NEED to SharePlay the Mac in order to use its keyboard but nothing specifically clarifies doing so would allow other apps to use the Mac keyboard once connected.
That is the concern here.
To quote the late, great Richard Feynman: “Who cares what anybody else thinks.” Have fun.
yes the title doesn't say review but it comes across as such.
Again I was NOT talking about bluetooth keyboards. I was talking about the built in virtual keyboard.
Given Apple's successful track record, I'm surprised to be reading quite so many comments in this forum from people who won't get within 1000 metres of a Vision Pro IRL until next year, but that are preoccupied with the same, tired talking points we heard prior to the launch of the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. Things like "use cases", "mass appeal", "price" and even the classic "it's doesn't have a physical keyboard".
Whereas many, if not all of the people who have actually demoed the device are describing what a magical experience the pre-production unit delivers.
Jobs used to quote Arthur C. Clarke, that "“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
Maybe the armchair quarter back industrial designers and category product managers here should finally start factoring in the magic.
Whereas many, if not all of the people who have actually demoed the device are describing what a magical experience the pre-production unit delivers.
Jobs used to quote Arthur C. Clarke, that "“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
Maybe the armchair quarter back industrial designers and category product managers here should finally start factoring in the magic.
Did they copy this guy??
What are you thinking of as AI? While there is no chatbot on the Vision Pro that "talks" to you, the whole thing is a massive AI, constantly doing massive calculations to scan your surroundings, your eye movements, and your hands, to render what you see on the screen, especially in transparent mode, and interpreting your commands.
Actually, you can get an accurate 3D mesh using nothing more than images using SOTA techniques. It doesn't even take that many images.
See "Neuralangelo", here: https://research.nvidia.com/labs/dir/neuralangelo/
The video is very cool.
Yes, you are right on this. In fact, the R chip works just for creating the “environment” and the m2 is the one in charge for the 2x 4K output video and “apps”. It doesn't leave you much more processing power.
About AI, I mentioned it not for Apple Vision but for the entire Keynote (my fault for not specified that)
Well, from what I gather, Tim Cook doesn't like the term AI. He seems to prefer machine learning, and even that, he uses sparingly. I think he wants to emphasize the results, and not draw attention to the process.
You seem to have misunderstood.
I am not suggesting we do away with the technology or ban its use. I am simply pointing out that not all technological progress has been positive. Social media has a lot of positives and has changed the way people stay in touch and interact; it has also proven caustic to the way teenagers interact with the world.
I am simply pointing out that there are legitimate concerns about how we, as a society, implement technology and that it is irresponsible to ignore the downsides.
Every act/gadget/device in this world does some good, some bad. There is no utopian universe. Just like folks who keep on complaining online about every little pesky thing Apple does or doesn’t. I tend to ignore those who are miserable in life.
There are a bunch of comments about the cost of this device. I have to comment on this. My first Macintosh Plus (circa 1986) cost me about $3200 CAD. Top level Macs still tend to cost about the same 35+ years later (yes, you can get cheaper but I'm talking about getting higher end specs in a series). A significant part of the reason why is that production has been moved offshore - essentially to whatever country can build it least expensively. And that is almost always labour costs.
MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.
Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.
While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.
Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.
Article Link: Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
So a first point is, it's not really that expensive compared to many Macs.
Second point is, it's a new machine heads and shoulders above others out there, with premium components. Almost a technical demonstration device. It's a starting point - and likely price will get lower over time with further development.
The third point is more of a social one. We (North Americans) need to get rid of our Walmart mentality - we want everything for the lowest possible price, social cost be damned. By doing so we have moved jobs and economy offshore, and while we can all afford 4 really good TVs perhaps that's not really in our long term interest. Maybe a 65" LCD TV should be made in Ohio by people making fair wages and should cost $10,000 instead of $2000 and we should only have one in the household. And maybe that would affect salaries in general which have wickedly lost ground over the last 35 years. Because of the impact of moving everything offshore, and because of our fundamental "greed" at wanting everything at the lowest price possible.
Finally, a major reason that the United States was significantly responsible for winning WWII was because it had tremendous resources set up in machining and fabrication. These resources were able to quickly be redirected in mass production of equipment and supplies for the war effort. The USA (and Canada) have squandered those resources in the name of the Walmart mentality, shipped everything offshore, and are now largely countries of people whose only offering is in the entertainment and service industries. And now also very beholden to countries like China.
I'd sure like people to rethink what they buy and who they buy it from. And that maybe companies would take the (very significant) risk of repatriating industry.
Directly from Apple's WWDC 2023 Broadcast and on their website:
See screenshots attached Also you can SPECIFICALLY see the virtual Keyboard as well.
Need I say more?
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Apple stated during the keynote that bluetooth keyboards and mice could be connected to the headset.
Personally, I do not want to use a virtual keyboard. While I put up with it on iPad, having to hover fingers and type slows me down significantly. I was typing at peak around 60wpm on an iPad screen, vs 120+ on a physical keyboard.
The $3.5k pricetag is meant to appeal to a limited initial bunch of consumers (either wealthy early-adopters or those with certain commercial applications) and software developers. All of whom are effectively paying for the privilege of being beta-testers. It will be the V2 or V3 models (maybe not all of which will be 'Pro' headsets?) rolled out with improving OSs over the next few years that start to appeal to the rest of us.
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