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Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset

scrtagntman said:
I appreciate the lengthy effort, but that just sounds like app windows floating over a camera feed.

When I think of AR, it’s adding things to (the augmentation) the environment that are not really there. There are many examples that work on our phones. Real time map overlays, adding store front names to buildings, games that interact with real objects, etc.

But I hear you. Perhaps in an ultra minimalist way, it’s an AR experience. The app windows do cast shadows that aren’t really there. 🤪
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The tech for, let’s just say, a virtual bouncy ball realistically bouncing off the furniture, people, or pets physically in your room just doesn’t exist and is a long way off.

We can put AR objects on your table, like you described. Or map overlays. Or app windows casting virtual shadows on the floor.

But a deeper integration isn’t really possible. Not without a huge amount of sensors (external to a VR headset) to map everything in real time within a room from multiple angles. (Not just the one angle of a LiDAR scanner in a headset.)
 
One aspect I haven't appreciated enough is that you get a different picture for each eye and thus a real 3D effect. The picture quality improvement should be comparable to the difference between mono and stereo sound. If only one of the next iPhone Pros comes with 3D video recording, suddenly there would be a lot of new content, which can only be fully enjoyed with Vision Pro. I think this could be the breakthrough of headsets. The iPhone already made vertical video a thing (nobody asked for). And everybody has a slo-mo camera in his pocket (we rarely use). 3D is the next frontier. What if 3D recording is just on by default and the content to watch with a headset keeps accumulating itself?
 
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MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.


Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.

While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.

Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.

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Really good review on your video!

Well Done!
 
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What do you think? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

This guy is a professional complainer and he's made a career out of it! I didn't even watch the video to know how it will go. lolz. What do you guys think?
 
MacRumors said:


MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.


Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.

While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.

Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.

Article Link: Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
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Again - great review!

How was it for reading? Eyestrain-free reading? Would you be comfortable reading a lot with the Apple Vision Pro goggles on?

I can't wait to try them myself!
 
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Gudi said:
One aspect I haven't appreciated enough is that you get a different picture for each eye and thus a real 3D effect. The picture quality improvement should be comparable to the difference between mono and stereo sound. If only one of the next iPhone Pros comes with 3D video recording, suddenly there would be a lot of new content, which can only be fully enjoyed with Vision Pro. I think this could be the breakthrough of headsets. The iPhone already made vertical video a thing (nobody asked for). And everybody has a slo-mo camera in his pocket (we rarely use). 3D is the next frontier. What if 3D recording is just on by default and the content to watch with a headset keeps accumulating itself?
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It’s called “stereoscopic” viewing to create a 3D image because of stereoscopes created in the early 1800’s. Here’s a Wiki with further explanation:

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Stereoscope - Wikipedia

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The idea is that you have 2 images of the same thing, taken at slightly different angles, and then viewed through lenses in each eye, so that you get a 3D (“stereoscopic”) view. (In the case of an 1800’s stereoscope, it was two printed photographs on a card, placed behind essentially a pair of binoculars.)

Every VR headset uses this technology. And has used it, technically, since the 90’s. (But obviously most modern headsets have only been around for the last 8-ish years.)

But yeah, the same principle has been around since the 1830’s with stereoscopes.

If you’ve only experienced movies with 3D glasses (which work very differently), then I’m sure you’ll enjoy VR! (Or buy an antique stereoscope. Those things are really cool.)
 
persona1138 said:
The idea is that you have 2 images of the same thing, taken at slightly different angles, and then viewed through lenses in each eye, so that you get a 3D (“stereoscopic”) view. (In the case of an 1800’s stereoscope, it was two printed photographs on a card, placed behind essentially a pair of binoculars.)
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I know what it is. But how many devices in the world can record stereoscopic video? If you need a $3500 Vision Pro to record video in 3D, then there will never be enough content to watch. But the iPhone has already three lenses for widescreen photos and optical zoom. Just put two cameras up there who record video at the same time from 65 mm apart. Every birthday party in the world could become a stereoscopic video, best enjoyed and "relived the moment" with Vision Pro. This is a utility no other monitor can offer.
 
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Gudi said:
I know what it is. But how many devices in the world can record stereoscopic video? If you need a $3500 Vision Pro to record video in 3D, then there will never be enough content to watch. But the iPhone has already three lenses for widescreen photos and optical zoom. Just put two cameras up there who record video at the same time from 65 mm apart. Every birthday party in the world could become a stereoscopic video, best enjoyed and "relived the moment" with Vision Pro. This is a utility no other monitor can offer.
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Well, what I personally hope is that Apple puts stereoscopic lenses on an iPhone for me to take 3D pictures and video with it, and then properly view those things on the Vision Pro.

Because taking videos of kids on a Vision Pro, while they stare into my cold, lifeless, digitally-generated eyes behind a ski mask sounds like a bad time.

Lemme take the pics with one device and view them on another.

(Which, IF they did, would increase the importance of owning a Vision Pro, so it becomes even more tightly integrated with my iPhone.)
 
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blicked said:
Not gonna watch a video - can we just get a proper article on this summarizing his takeaways?
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I agree with you completely, normally. I did watch this one though, and I think it captures his impression of it really well. If he's talking about stuff you've read elsewhere just skip ahead a bit. But I found his reactions to the quality of the experience very genuine, and gives a hint to us what it feels like to use until we can try it out ourselves.
 
lecureuil said:
no matter who creates a VR device, it will always look ugly and people would look stupid with it
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Sorry, I was playing Beat Saber in my living room alone in my boxers and having a great time.

…What did you say? And why do you care what I’m wearing? Moreover, why should I care about what you think about what I’m wearing?

Nobody cares if you look like a dork in VR. It’s no big deal, dude. Just have fun!
 
I would like a non-pro entertainment version of this for about 1k. I only really care about the movie experience on this. I’ll never be productive on it and I don’t do video calls unless it is Teams for work. I don’t think I have opened the FaceTime app in years 😅
 
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After seeing Dan review this device, honestly, it really terrifies me. Dan keeps saying how “immersive” this is. I see people going from ignoring life to be on their phones to being completely out of it with the headset. Kids, parents, students, all in a parallel universe.

What’s next, a human analog to pair this to and selecting which character to have sex with? Sounds so dehumanizing.

While the device sounds like a technical marvel, I don’t think this will be good for humanity.
 
persona1138 said:
Well, what I personally hope is that Apple puts stereoscopic lenses on an iPhone for me to take 3D pictures and video with it, and then properly view those things on the Vision Pro.

Because taking videos of kids on a Vision Pro, while they stare into my cold, lifeless, digitally-generated eyes behind a ski mask sounds like a bad time.

Lemme take the pics with one device and view them on another.

(Which, IF they did, would increase the importance of owning a Vision Pro, so it becomes even more tightly integrated with my iPhone.)
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Dads have been filming kids since the 70s. I am used to seeing my grandfather standing behind s VHS camcorder in the 80s at just about every event.
 
Analog Kid said:
Yeah, agreed.

So far I haven't seen a single review indicating the interaction is anything short of extraordinary. These are people that went in with high expectations and could potentially differentiate themselves by finding flaws, but I haven't seen any yet-- certainly not when it comes to the quality of the experience. Obviously we'll start to find limitations as developers show what it can and can't do, and we'll start to see where it gets flakey as more kinds of people interact with it, but I think it's premature to say either that it lacks precision or that there's no means to use controllers.

The haptics limitation is real. We've done a lot without haptics in the computing world though. Pausing or adding some other perceived resistance like we do with mice and such to snap to reference points, for example. I think "tap to click" might in part be because we provide our own haptic feedback in that instance.
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No one has reviewed this device yet that isn't an Apple shill, just for the record. That is why they were allowed to review it.
 
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Neither a Luddite nor a Pollyanna about it.

It will find its place, not completely replacing anything but supplementing what we already have and providing more choice.
 
MacWiz_007 said:
People with wires coming out of their ears don't look great either, but people who look like they have tampons coming out of their ears look beyond ridiculous. Time will never change that. I don't think anyone else should wear what I wear, in fact I prefer to wear things other people don't or can't wear. I definitely don't jump on any bandwagons. Your assessment of me is really poor, but then again you don't know me so I'm not sure why you tried to assess me in the first place.
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I assessed a friend. Not you. Just someone who similarly has strong opinions on the preferences and appearances of others.
Clearly, though, you have those same, strong preferences despite it having no impact on you. So, in that sense, I’m not that far off.
 
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After seeing Dan review this device, honestly, it really terrifies me. Dan keeps saying how “immersive” this is. I see people going from ignoring life to be on their phones to being completely out of it with the headset. Kids, parents, students, all in a parallel universe.

What’s next, a human analog to pair this to and selecting which character to have sex with? Sounds so dehumanizing.

While the device sounds like a technical marvel, I don’t think this will be good for humanity.
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There is nothing terrifying. Human brain has always immersed in new stuff over thousands of years, when farming first started. It’s not like humans have to survive in cave hunting. It’s called evolution, that’s how the world moves. They said same thing when Television and movie screens first showed up.
I spend most of my spare time outdoors with limited screen time, but I am not gonna lecture the world or others. Let people live their lives, and do what makes them happy. No need to be grumpy, and judge some one you don’t know.
 
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