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Apple stated during the keynote that bluetooth keyboards and mice could be connected to the headset.

Personally, I do not want to use a virtual keyboard. While I put up with it on iPad, having to hover fingers and type slows me down significantly. I was typing at peak around 60wpm on an iPad screen, vs 120+ on a physical keyboard.
Absolutely it won't be for everyone (certainly not me), but the option will be there, and it means not having to have a keyboard with you at all times. Hard to believe it won't also seamlessly integrate with an iPad etc for interface purposes.
 
Absolutely it won't be for everyone (certainly not me), but the option will be there, and it means not having to have a keyboard with you at all times. Hard to believe it won't also seamlessly integrate with an iPad etc for interface purposes.

People also need to keep in mind that this was a preview of a product releasing in a year. Plenty of time to improve a virtual keyboard (if it exists). Maybe it just wasn’t ready for primetime.
 
Apple stated during the keynote that bluetooth keyboards and mice could be connected to the headset.

Personally, I do not want to use a virtual keyboard. While I put up with it on iPad, having to hover fingers and type slows me down significantly. I was typing at peak around 60wpm on an iPad screen, vs 120+ on a physical keyboard.
Apple never said you HAVE to hover a keyboard in the air btw.
 
Not gonna watch a video - can we just get a proper article on this summarizing his takeaways?
I appreciate the energy and enthusiasm that comes across in the video compared to a bunch of bullet points that every other tech journalist has already covered. After watching the keynote, I could've just as easily made yup and wrote every single thing any tech journalist said but I wouldn't be able to convey the excitement and minute details in his video.
 
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There is. Here's an AI transcribed version. I won't reveal where this came from because I don't want it to get flooded and they shut off the free transcription, but I can tell you of at least 2 other platforms that do this - sonix.ai and Descript.
The strangest reaction is everyone saying how weird they will feel or look wearing these. We've had giant VR helmets for years and that never stopped anyone from wearing those. What is the setting they are imagining wearing the headset? No one is going to wear it at work until it's a real product and has enterprise software written for it a few years from now. No one is going to wear it outside because there won't be software that is useful for a while and until it's truly portable. Someone might whip it out at a party but that would only be because someone asked them to or they want to capture some 3D video. Every use case for the next few years is going to be someone alone in their own space or near someone else you know. Stop acting like we don't all already do embarrassing things at home that we do't want people to see. Wearing a Vision Pro doesn't even make my top 100 things that I don't want others to see.
 
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I just hate the thought that my kids are going to grow up in a world where everyone works at home in isolation, and when they venture out, they have goggles on to stay in their virtual system. And we'll wonder why nobody has any social skills.
Social skills and etiquette have changed so much over the centuries, decades and years but it never goes away. People act very different with smartphones than before they were ubiquitous. It's just evolution and the social skills deemed unnecessary today will disappear first because none of them are necessary. Social skills are just a way to get something you want or connect to another. There are a million ways to accomplish this and guess who have the worst social skills...the Amish.
 


MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.


Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.

While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.

Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.

Article Link: Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
But will you buy it, though? it sounds cool... but is it practical? Worth $3500+?
 
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I would like to point out that pictures of Dan Barbera, Marques Brownlee and possibly other reviewers actually wearing the Apple Vision Pro are FAKE pictures. That’s because Apple didn’t allow any reporters who got to try the AVP to take any photos or videos of their actual session. I think these reporters and publishers should mark those pictures as MANIPULATED or SIMULATED. I guess, though, with all the fake stuff online, it doesn’t matter much. But trust, and expectations, from users/readers will be lowered and eroded.
 
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Apple never said you HAVE to hover a keyboard in the air btw.
I never said it would be in the air… Apple never said anything at all about it to be factual. We don’t even know if the feature was planned, only ”leaks” have mentioned it.

I expect it to operate just like the iPad. You can’t rest your fingers on the surface when you type or it will register it as a key press.
 
I would like to point out that pictures of Dan Barbera, Marques Brownlee and possibly other reviewers actually wearing the Apple Vision Pro are FAKE pictures. That’s because Apple didn’t allow any reporters who got to try the AVP to take any photos or videos of their actual session. I think these reporters and publishers should mark those pictures as MANIPULATED or SIMULATED. I guess, though, with all the fake stuff online, it doesn’t matter much. But trust, and expectations, from users/readers will be lowered and eroded.
True and it's interesting Apple won't show the "over the head" additional strap that was on the actual test units.
 
I knew the headset reminded me of something. Cloud Gate in Chicago. 🤣

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I wonder how transparent the screen is, and field of vision. If both are good, I can see folks wanting to use it while driving... being able to get info (to the side, of course) just by looking at businesses, buildings, landmarks, roadkill, etc.
Your field of vision is totally OPAQUE. You see nothing “through” the goggles at all. Nor do people around you see through them. What you see on the screens INSIDE the goggles is a mix of what the cameras all around the outside of the device are seeing and what you mix into it from the computing environment from the device. What those around you see “through” the front of the “goggles” is actually a high-res screen image on the outside front of the device. Hope that helps in understanding.
 
For those who would rather have read a transcript of the video, you would have lost the sense of excitement and cool body language the Dan exhibited. He was very convincing. I'm putting all my tech stuff buying on hold, saving that money so I can get one of these. Thanks Dan!
 
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MacRumors videographer Dan Barbera is in Cupertino this week to attend WWDC on behalf of the site, and today, he was given an opportunity to try the Apple Vision Pro in person.


Dan is one of the first people who has been able to test the headset, as Apple is only providing these demos to select people who were able to attend the keynote event.

While Apple did not allow filming of the headset and the usage experience, Dan did a video to recount his thoughts on what it was like and to answer questions from MacRumors readers and viewers.

Make sure to watch the video to get Dan's full overview of what it was like using Apple's new wearable for the first time.

Article Link: Video: Trying the Apple Vision Pro Headset
Well now I'll have to buy TWICE the usual number of lottery tickets. Cool review.
 
I never said it would be in the air… Apple never said anything at all about it to be factual. We don’t even know if the feature was planned, only ”leaks” have mentioned it.

I expect it to operate just like the iPad. You can’t rest your fingers on the surface when you type or it will register it as a key press.
The feature was specifically shown during their wwdc by Apple themselves more than once. Nice try there.
Apple stated during the keynote that bluetooth keyboards and mice could be connected to the headset.

Personally, I do not want to use a virtual keyboard. While I put up with it on iPad, having to hover fingers and type slows me down significantly. I was typing at peak around 60wpm on an iPad screen, vs 120+ on a physical keyboard.
Yeah you pretty much did. Heavily implied! Why else would “hover fingers and type” actually mean!??
 
How heavy? I missed that part.

But whether feather light or heavy, I doubt all but a few will be using it at all times (too many batteries to carry around... for those who can afford what will probably be highly proprietary batteries only from Apple).
In Dan's vid, it's said you can actually power right through a wall charger and a USB C cable. Of course then you might have issues escaping with the dinosaur getting very annoying.
 
I never said it would be in the air… Apple never said anything at all about it to be factual. We don’t even know if the feature was planned, only ”leaks” have mentioned it.

I expect it to operate just like the iPad. You can’t rest your fingers on the surface when you type or it will register it as a key press.
Dude you’re still arguing about leaks and Apple specifically mentioned it in their official WWDC 2023 just last week.

Please go see the video yourself and listen. You don’t want to admit you’re wrong then see for yourself.

First you said “hover fingers to type ” which implies a floating keyboard cause the iPad you do NOT have to hover your fingers to type. Now when that is challenged now you’re saying resting fingers on the iPad caus it registers to type. False. Only when the keyboard is onscreen will the iPad thing your fingers resting on the screen (and on the virtual keyboard) will think you want to type. No keyboard it becomes navigation resizing and selection. But spurious inputs it’ll ignore - most of what you’re saying would be considered as such: a spurious input to be ignored. I’ve used iPad Pro 11” owning it twice and the 6 mini as well. Never had the issues you speak of.
 
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Dude you’re still arguing about leaks and Apple specifically mentioned it in their official WWDC 2023 just last week.

Please go see the video yourself and listen. You don’t want to admit you’re wrong then see for yourself.

First you said “hover fingers to type ” which implies a floating keyboard cause the iPad you do NOT have to hover your fingers to type. Now when that is challenged now you’re saying resting fingers on the iPad caus it registers to type. False. Only when the keyboard is onscreen will the iPad thing your fingers resting on the screen (and on the virtual keyboard) will think you want to type. No keyboard it becomes navigation resizing and selection. But spurious inputs it’ll ignore - most of what you’re saying would be considered as such: a spurious input to be ignored. I’ve used iPad Pro 11” owning it twice and the 6 mini as well. Never had the issues you speak of.

“Hover fingers to type” As in, hovering my fingers over the hard surface as you are typing on so you don’t accidentally press keys, like the iPad screen. This isn’t me “changing my story“ Is it really that hard to understand from the multiple descriptions I typed? You talk about the iPad screen rejecting touches when the keyboard isn’t up, WTF does that have to do with anything? Maybe try getting a little reading comprehension.

I am literally typing this on my iPad, and no, I cannot rest my fingers on my screen as I type or I get a bunch of garbage. My fingers have to hover above the screen and just touch where I want to register input. Not rocket science.

Lastly, more information has obviously come out over the course of WWDC. The virtual keyboard was not shown in the keynote, which was all I’d seen at the time. Regarding that “An Apple developer session has offered an in-depth look at the many ways users will (eventually) control its new Vision Pro headset, including a virtual keyboard that you’ll be able to type on in mid-air.” OMG! In mid air!?! No way you’d need to hover for that.. (Source, https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23753618/apple-vision-pro-virtual-keyboard-controls-wwdc-2023 Maybe try linking a source if you are going to say ”Go watch the video” Like I’m supposedly to magically guess which video you are referencing)

Don’t bother responding, as I won’t be responding to you again.
 
In mid air!?! No way you’d need to hover for that..
We'll have to wait and see until we get to actually use it to see how it works in practice, but I'm thinking typing on a virtual keyboard with the Vision Pro will be very different from typing on the iPad touchscreen. The main difference being VP can see your finger movements.

If I were designing a virtual keyboard typing experience with the VP, I would make it depend on which finger moved to register key presses, not where it is "touching." So you would not get the false key presses you get with touchscreens by touching the screen when you don't intend to press a key. If you "place" the virtual keyboard on a flat surface like a desktop or even your lap, you should be able to rest your fingers on that surface and type like you would on a physical keyboard, minus the tactile feel of pushing down keys.

I imagine having the virtual keyboard hover in the air would be an option for when there's no flat surface available. But I think users would find a flat surface if they are typing longer than a few sentences, and grab a physical Bluetooth keyboard for anything longer than a few paragraphs.
 
We'll have to wait and see until we get to actually use it to see how it works in practice, but I'm thinking typing on a virtual keyboard with the Vision Pro will be very different from typing on the iPad touchscreen. The main difference being VP can see your finger movements.

If I were designing a virtual keyboard typing experience with the VP, I would make it depend on which finger moved to register key presses, not where it is "touching." So you would not get the false key presses you get with touchscreens by touching the screen when you don't intend to press a key. If you "place" the virtual keyboard on a flat surface like a desktop or even your lap, you should be able to rest your fingers on that surface and type like you would on a physical keyboard, minus the tactile feel of pushing down keys.

I imagine having the virtual keyboard hover in the air would be an option for when there's no flat surface available. But I think users would find a flat surface if they are typing longer than a few sentences, and grab a physical Bluetooth keyboard for anything longer than a few paragraphs.
Yea, my point from my original post, was that I’d be using a bluetooth keyboard with the headset if I need a significant amount of text entry. Nothing beats it for speed, until we get Neuralink anyway.
 
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People look so ridiculous wearing these AR/VR headsets. I've tried a few of them and I couldn't get past it. I guess I'm not a fan of wearing goggles unless I am skiing or underwater. I'm surprised most people's narcissism will allow it, but then again it's all about being glued to a screen or screens and avoiding reality nowadays.
People used to look ridiculous on personal computers. There is superficial stuff that happens on tech, and life-changing, mission critical stuff. Lets see what people do with it...
 
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“Hover fingers to type” As in, hovering my fingers over the hard surface as you are typing on so you don’t accidentally press keys, like the iPad screen. This isn’t me “changing my story“ Is it really that hard to understand from the multiple descriptions I typed? You talk about the iPad screen rejecting touches when the keyboard isn’t up, WTF does that have to do with anything? Maybe try getting a little reading comprehension.

I am literally typing this on my iPad, and no, I cannot rest my fingers on my screen as I type or I get a bunch of garbage. My fingers have to hover above the screen and just touch where I want to register input. Not rocket science.

Lastly, more information has obviously come out over the course of WWDC. The virtual keyboard was not shown in the keynote, which was all I’d seen at the time. Regarding that “An Apple developer session has offered an in-depth look at the many ways users will (eventually) control its new Vision Pro headset, including a virtual keyboard that you’ll be able to type on in mid-air.” OMG! In mid air!?! No way you’d need to hover for that.. (Source, https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23753618/apple-vision-pro-virtual-keyboard-controls-wwdc-2023 Maybe try linking a source if you are going to say ”Go watch the video” Like I’m supposedly to magically guess which video you are referencing)

Don’t bother responding, as I won’t be responding to you again.
Is it really hard to believe that the topic is The Apple Vision Pro and NOT the iPad?
Is it really hard to believe this debate of ours was talking bout the Vision Pro's virtual keyboard (as I believe you initially asked where did apple make that statement or shown us) and also if any external hardware can be added or used but not a must?

Why pull in some other devices use case into a completely new product and new product category and use paradigm then challenge along the way only to start back pedalling? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I've ALREADY shown you a DIRECT screenshot, 2 in fact of different angles in previous debate with you in this VERY thread that INDEED Apple showed the virtual keyboard during the keynote.
NOTE: If you watched the keynote on Youtube via Apple's channel then yes you would've not seen it - along with the Alan Dye mentioning of only 2 major product category launches by Apple not 3 as did Tim Cook did years ago (launching the Apple Watch).

Dude you really need to catch up on the quotes I've made and view the screenshots attached. Cause of you backpedaling I'm done. I'm too sexy for this debate and you're clearly wrong a several accounts. Enjoy your week.
 
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