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Should be Called Mac iOS X...

Incredible that it took a "gadget" device to change some of the Mac OS's features.
I just don't get why they don't have a better Appearance Preference. Graphite has been gone for years and you only get 2 choices...
I remember the good ole days of Kaleidoscope for System 8... That was fun!
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Does the magic mouse support all these gestures or do you now need a trackpad?

The only new features are two finger (light) double-tapping for "Mission Control" and hovering over a dock icon while one finger swiping up will bring up right-click options (Quit/Hide/Options). Otherwise, full multi-gesture features require either a MacBook trackpad or Magic Trackpad.
 
Plus there are many reports that Lion is way more resource intensive, slower, and a memory hog with the auto-save and versions. Not efficient, just an ATTEMPT to be flashy. WTF. :(

Remember this is targetted at developers and is an initial preview. As such, I wouldn't be surprised Apple is doing this (see attachment).

When building in debug mode, the compiler usually does not run any optimizations on the code, which will tend to make it slower by a big margin.

As an end-user, you should hold back any urge to judge the performance of this build and keep your opinion for when Apple releases a proper build that's much closer to what is actually going to ship on release.
 

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I'm in Germany. For some reason many videos are blocked here that aren't blocked elsewhere. Almost always, I can watch those videos via hidemyass.com. Unfortunately, the quality (when played via hidemyass.com) sucks.

According to YouTube, my first video is only blocked in Germany because of the music. BUT the music it THINKS is in the video is NOT the music it is. If you are in another country and click the links in the description to buy the music from Amazon, it thinks the songs are the "End Title" from some movie I've never heard of called "Little Children". YouTube's music detection system screwed up. But there's no way to reverse it. What can I do? Can I contact YouTube? Or is it just moot. Are there other workarounds? Maybe someone can rehost it on say Vimeo or one of the thousand other HD video sites. I only use YouTube for the views since it's the most seen.

This is the song it thinks it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkiRPi5-FBk
That sounds NOTHING like any of the songs I used! What the heck?

The weird thing is for the second video, YouTube didn't recognize anything. And it only seems to determine the song based on the beginning. It didn't detect the other two songs in the first video. What would have happened had I used the Moon song first or the Inception one? What if I had used a normal song? I could have just Googled for free stock music. I actually did Google but only found a site you have to buy the song from. Damn, I actually know a site I could have used. Oh well. Live and learn. Sad to say my next video if it comes along will just use some music made by a free site. I just hope YouTube doesn't mistake any of it for real music again.

I just wanted to thank MacRumors for posting some front-page news on OS X. I realize iPhone's and iPad's and iOS are Apple's main focus these days, but for those who use OS X more so, and who miss the old days of OS X coverage, it's refreshing. Thanks! :)
Apple's finally getting back to the Mac because they think they've gotten a nice bridge going between the two platforms. I think there was also a rumor that they're holding separate OS X and iOS events this year and that WWDC might actually be all about OS X this time. (With a separate event for iOS 5.) God I hope so. The Developers need to know about both platforms, but it's time to stop pushing OS X to the back burner. I'm eager to see BOTH OS' in action.

just looking at the video, the ui looks a little confusing switching between spaces, expose, fullscreen mode and that quick launch tool. overall it looks solid, especially the updated spotlight.
Oh, believe me, it becomes natural when you realize it's all at the end of a finger swipe gesture. It makes it much easier to navigate between apps with a flick, and de-clutters your desktop by bringing focus to one app at a time (For certain apps) but keeps others at the ready when you need them. And when you do, it's a choice of a horizontal swipe or a vertical one to get to the others.


So just to be 100% sure, Lion will work flawlessly on a base MBA 11", correct?
I'm pretty sure the Air is the one model they want Lion on. They actually built the new Air JUST FOR Lion.
 
There are plenty more rants, and I can safely say Lion is a bad update. At least from my experience. Snow Leopard is far superior.
The developers preview of Snow Leopard inspired plenty of rants, most ending in it being called a poor update to Leopard.

There appears to be a definite cycle in regards to OS updates, one step of which is folks ranting about the developers preview.
 
Yeah I've read comments that some in Germany and others countries can't view the videos due to the music the video may have (someone mentioned Sony blocked the video). What's the story? I'm surprised this doesn't happen here in the states.

it's because youtube currently doesn't pay the licence fees demanded by gema (the german media licence company). because of that all videos with music licenced by sony is blocked.
 
Why do you say that? Hope it works on 2gb ram :(

I would say because most of this fullscreen/mission control stuff really only makes sense on so small a display/resolution - beyond that one is far better off multitasking. Ironically I'm typing this on a nice tangerine iBook I acquired a year ago for kicks - and THAT is the machine I would love to have some of that stuff on :).
 
Don't worry. Lion will work on any Mac with a Core2Duo aside from the very earliest models and anything with just a CoreDuo. (No 2) Chances are, if you bought it in the last 4 years, it will probably work. And 2GB RAM should be fine. Especially on the Air since they're completely optimized for speed more than any other Mac.
 
I look forward to using it. IMO the Dock looks way too crowded once you pass 15 apps or so. But an Applications stack isn't really easy to organize or use at a glance. It's basically just an alphabetical list or a big grid that isn't sortable.

Launchpad has big colorful icons, is completely customizable like iOS, and becomes invisible when I don't want to look at it. To me, that's the perfect way to sort, view and launch apps. Of course, the old methods of launching apps will not be gotten rid of if you prefer those.

I guess I'm lucky; I have pretty much everything I ever use in my Dock, and that is about 15 apps plus stacks, and it hangs out on the right. And the same is true of my windows 7 superbar - but that has so much more functionality! The Office:Mac apps try to emulate it with recent items lists off the Dock, but the apps have to be open for that in OS X.

I would have preferred them to give the Dock some long overdue love than shifting paradigms so wholly. Adding new ways to do the same thing but not committing to them, it just seems like they're not really even buying into their own new stuff. I don't really want another update that starts with looking for how to turn off most of the new features - that already happens with every new major version of iTunes, Safari, Office, and Windows!
 
The scrollbars should appear briefly when first opening any document or page so the user knows there's further content. Otherwise there's a usability issue in my view.

SO go into system preferences and set them to always visible.

Problem solved.

Criticism, criticism, I don't understand, I can't see the point = Fail.

Open minds, stop criticising for the sake of it and sit back and see the final result.

if people don't like it, don't upgrade.

For a forum supposedly at the cutting edge of technology, this fear of change is laughable. Almost luddite.
 
I would say because most of this fullscreen/mission control stuff really only makes sense on so small a display/resolution

Except both Air models have better resolution than the MBP 13" and MB 13" so that's not the reason.

Lion and the new Air go hand in hand because they were introduced at the same time with the same basic idea of "Let's bring stuff from iOS/iDevices to the Mac", ie, "Back to the Mac".
 
My plan was to upgrade my aging PPC G5 next year when the new MPs arrive.

Obviously they'll have Lion pre-installed. I think I'm going to have to buy Snow Leopard ASAP (before Lion renders it extinct) so I can install that on the new Mac next year. I really don't want to use this new OS. It's a complete turn off for me.

Do you think there'll be any practical reason why down-grading the OS won't work?

I've loved Macs dating back to the System 7 days and have always enjoyed the new upgrades. But this - ugh - grey icons, toy sliders, no scoll bars for page orientation. I could go on.

I want to like it - I really do. :(
 
Look at plan "B"....

Do you think there'll be any practical reason why down-grading the OS won't work?

10.6 almost certainly won't work on a new generation of Mac Pros.

A new design for a system requires low level hardware support. Apple doesn't typically (perhaps never) retrofit that support into older operating systems.

Look at the threads about the developer release of Lion - it won't install on the latest ThunderPort equipped models of the MacBook Pro. The new MBPs are running a special build of 10.6, and those updates haven't been merged into 10.7 yet.

There's almost no chance that a Mac Pro that ships with Lion will be supported by any version of 10.6.
 
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I've loved Macs dating back to the System 7 days and have always enjoyed the new upgrades. But this - ugh - grey icons, toy sliders, no scoll bars for page orientation. I could go on.

I want to like it - I really do. :(
How many times have upgrades been introduced? And how many times have a proportion of users been dissatisfied? And how many times has that dissatisfaction resulted in any step 'backwards'?

Sorry, but I suspect that you're going to have to get used to it, or find another platform. Sure, you might install some theme gizmo, only to find it breaks with a critical update or whatever.
 
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In a year, everyone's going to look at Lion and wonder why they were afraid. It's so silly the complaints. Especially since most, if not all, will be able to be disabled.
 
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