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Video Walkthrough of Mac OS X Lion Developer

Thanks for doing the video — truly. It's nice to see and I'm surprised it hasn't been yanked yet. I hope you don't mind a bit of a critique because I'm hoping you'll do more in the future:

• Music: I found it a little distracting so I just muted it.
• Transitions/Descriptions: I found myself pausing the video a lot to have time to actually read what was written.
• Narration: I actually like it a lot when someone is speaking on what they are doing or explaining what is going on. It helps sometimes to explain further nuances that might be hard to get with just a quick note at the bottom.

Again -- thank you for your time, Jasco (or something to that effect) -- great job. Take the quick thoughts not as overall critique but just what they were. Again, let's see more!

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jonnysods said:
The features look interesting. What are the minimum requirements to make all those features work? 16gb ram? Hexacore processor?

I hope this thing isn't slow....!
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Most of these features are coming from iOS and A4 chips with 256MB Ram — I don't think we'll have problems in terms of scale. Apple is not going to release something bloated. That was the whole point of Snow Leopard: to trim the fat and flush the bloat. Lion is simply going to be new features on top of that lean/mean/OS machine! You worry too much!
 
F10 Launch Studio has been there for YEARS and now Apple is having a subpar implementation into the OS itself.

Other than that I kinda dig Lion indeed.
 
Interesting video.

A few points:

- Why have just address book with cutesy borders? Why not a calendar for the Calendar app? Better yet, why not just make address book like every other bloody app window. Inconsistent!

- You have live updating of apps in spaces except if the app is in fullscreen. Why? Inconsistent!

- Finally am I the only person who thinks fullscreen is retarded? What is the point? To get a few extra pixels of screen real estate at the expense of completely non-standard behaviour?

I do like how widgets is (at least by default) made to be a space. At least that's consistent...
 
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BillyBobBongo said:
You're not alone. ;)
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Oh good. :)

This is one area where I think Win 7 has it right. If I want a new fangled gesture type way of maximizing an app I can just drag it to the top of the screen and it will maximize. If I want half a screen (good when doing side by side comparisons of docs) I just drag it to the left or right.

Easy. And I still have the desktop paradigm intact and consistent.
 
Thank you for the nice video - well done and fun to watch. Good music selection :)


Lion seems promising. But personally I don't like the "new" Address Book look. It gets a bit long in the tooth when Apple tries to mimic real world objects on a computer. Especially in this case, where the Address Book looks like something from the 19th century :rolleyes:

The new finder looks great. Love the improved Spotlight in the video. All in all it should be an awesome update. Can't wait :D
 
jeffy.dee-lux said:
am i the only one who finds Launch Pad pretty pointless? You've got the dock for your most frequent apps, and then the apps folder as a stack in the dock for all the others? Does Launch Pad improve on this at all? I'm usually not a hater of new features, i'm always up for new stuff, but this one just strikes me as totally redundant.
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My thoughts is that Apple is priming us for a change in which we will not be able to tell the difference and the UI will have a new paradigm change maybe in X11:rolleyes:.

You can turn it back on but by default now the dock light indicator is turned off so in practice you would not even know what is open and would not care if you have say an SSD:D (never going back) and 4 or more gig of memory. Its only conjecturer on my part but it makes some sense psychological if you want people to start thinking of their desktop as an extension of their iphone/ipad.

But this is Apple and they do tend to do things "Differently" if you know what I mean. :cool:
 
jeffy.dee-lux said:
am i the only one who finds Launch Pad pretty pointless? You've got the dock for your most frequent apps, and then the apps folder as a stack in the dock for all the others? Does Launch Pad improve on this at all? I'm usually not a hater of new features, i'm always up for new stuff, but this one just strikes me as totally redundant.
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I like the idea of Launch Pad, but I am the type of person who puts their programs into stacks in different groups. I make an Alias of the program and put them in a folder for easier organizing. Then I have a stack for Final Cut Studio, CS5, iWork/Office, iLife, Games, Video Editing Utilities, etc. If I could get those out of the dock and into organized Folders al la iOS, then that is cool.

I'm also assuming you can just remove Launch Pad from the dock, and if you don't like it you don't need to use it.
 
I just wanted to thank MacRumors for posting some front-page news on OS X. I realize iPhone's and iPad's and iOS are Apple's main focus these days, but for those who use OS X more so, and who miss the old days of OS X coverage, it's refreshing. Thanks! :)
 
kerryb said:
Thanks for making that video, however the tempo got a little crazy when taking it all in for the first time. I'm concerned that there might be too many changes in the user interface at the moment which will confuse newbies and the less nerdy Mac users. I might have been impressed by Spotlight the most the improvements make it a super app. I can see many people getting lost in the layers Apple is adding to the interface.
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I'm sort of worried about Apple more or less forcing Spaces on us. I think Spaces is GREAT if you are working with a small monitor. On a bigger 27 inch cinema display or dual monitors, I find myself not using it so much since there is so much screen to work with.. Looking at my Desktop right now, I can see 7 open programs at once across two monitors

Whenever someone sits down at my work station, launches a program, and the Spaces slide over to reveal the program, they are most of the time super confused and wonder where the other program just went! I'm really surprised that so many people are unfamiliar with it.
 
toomuchrock said:
Thanks for the video. I still don't get this fullscreen crap. I've got a 27" iMac. I never want anything to take up my full screen. I mean can't I maximise anything now and make it fullscreen if I want? Even toss it in it's own Space if I want? What am I missing here?

Mostly I just want to know that I'll be able to accept meeting invites in iCal for a calendar that not associated with the email address the invitation was sent to. It's killing me. I'm about to abandon Mobile Me because of that. If I can't use MM to sync my calendars anymore because calendars are only linked with a MM address, it's useless to me.
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THEN DON'T USE FULLSCREEN!! Jesus Christ. I never get when people bitch so much about an OPTION - YOU DONT HAVE TO USE IT! Guess what? Not everyone has a 27" iMac, and Apple isn't designing their next OS specifically for your own preferences. If you haven't noticed, Apple sells 11" and 13" notebooks- which are their most popular sellers. I have a 15" MBP, I'm running 10.7 from an external drive, and I absolutely love fullscreen view. Will I use it on EVERY SINGLE APP? No. But its certainly nice to have on occasion. This option will not negatively affect you in the least, its not being forced on you, so quit bitching about an optional feature than many others will love and find useful. This goes with almost everything else in 10.7 - what I find amazing is that Apple has given the option to disable so many of the new features, or at least sue 'classic mode' to keep everyone happy. Don't like launchpad? Don't use it. It's INVISIBLE until it's called up. Best of both worlds. I don't see what anyone else can ask for. Also, if you don't understand how unifying UI aspects of iOS and OSX isnt beneficial for Apple and most of its users, and dont see the strategy behind it, which can only have positive effects, then there's no hope for you. I know a TON of people who I have no doubt will love these new paradigms, and WILL make it easier for them to use their computer, and be more productive. Stop being so narrow-minded. This is called progress.
 
z4n3 said:
Thought the same thing until I tried Launch Pad , now I actually miss it is when at work where I still use 10.6.

Everything just feels natural, more so if you use a laptop or have a MagicPad connected to your Mac.

But it depends on how you use your computer and if you like embracing changes. :D
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What are you saying it is more natural compared to? Just the normal track and click, or are you saying its useful vs app launchers like Quicksilver?
 
Heya,


Nice vids man, most indepth i've seen -- with nice relaxing music :)

Does anybody know if when you minimize a video playing in quicktime if it live plays in the dock? I used to love this in Tiger!!

Why did they remove it?! and is it back!?


Regards,
John
 
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THEN DON'T USE FULLSCREEN!! Jesus Christ. I never get when people bitch so much about an OPTION - YOU DONT HAVE TO USE IT! Guess what? Not everyone has a 27" iMac, and Apple isn't designing their next OS specifically for your own preferences. If you haven't noticed, Apple sells 11" and 13" notebooks- which are their most popular sellers. I have a 15" MBP, I'm running 10.7 from an external drive, and I absolutely love fullscreen view. Will I use it on EVERY SINGLE APP? No. But its certainly nice to have on occasion. This option will not negatively affect you in the least, its not being forced on you, so quit bitching about an optional feature than many others will love and find useful. This goes with almost everything else in 10.7 - what I find amazing is that Apple has given the option to disable so many of the new features, or at least sue 'classic mode' to keep everyone happy. Don't like launchpad? Don't use it. It's INVISIBLE until it's called up. Best of both worlds. I don't see what anyone else can ask for. Also, if you don't understand how unifying UI aspects of iOS and OSX isnt beneficial for Apple and most of its users, and dont see the strategy behind it, which can only have positive effects, then there's no hope for you. I know a TON of people who I have no doubt will love these new paradigms, and WILL make it easier for them to use their computer, and be more productive. Stop being so narrow-minded. This is called progress.
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If you're so in favor of options, then I'd suggest Apple give us the option upon install of a) Classic OS X or b) iOS bastard with loads of useless system taxing crap
 
seems to me that lion is just a very polished version of old leopard with added fancynancy names

also, so many "resemblances" between os's these days
 
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