Bring the iPhone OS to the tablet.
Someday, all Apple hardware will run the iPhone OS.
Can't help but agree with this.
In other words, VLC IS DEAD. Good riddance?
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In other words, VLC IS DEAD. Good riddance?
lol then what is Quicktime X for, Apple should buy VLC, strip it down and add Quicktime interface to it, quicktime x... for some stupid reason takes up more RAM/processing power than Quicktime 7, all the hype for a piece of **** software, sorry mega stressed with Apple atm
Bring the iPhone OS to the tablet.
Someday, all Apple hardware will run the iPhone OS.
Yeah, the Final Cut Pro app will really be popular on iTunes...
Well, it's only VLC. Others will take its place. This is how it goes with free software.
Dare I dream?
Someday, all Apple hardware will run the iPhone OS.
Why, do you think they will stop making computers?
That is definitely a do not want.Someday, all Apple hardware will run the iPhone OS.
you can disable vlc bringing up the playlist every time, it's up to you.
mplayer might be kind on resources, as reported, although we don't actually know, but otherwise it's crap, I don't know why anyone would choose it over quicktime and vlc that are more feature rich and powerful. But to its his own I guess.
Someday I'd really like to find out what LTD is consuming. It'd make my days a whole lot brighter, lol.
More seriously though, I can't see how anyone would ever seriously want the iPhone OS to run on all Apple hardware. It works decently for mobile devices, and I could see it working for the Tablet if the Tablet is basically an e-reader/media device, but otherwise it's a very limited OS for most other situations.
Yeah, I read that. VLC's developers are asking for donations to help with development. My only gripe is find it hard to believe that they are getting much revenue from the Windows crowd in the first place as most people running Windows are looking for anything free. Yet they have no problems making the Windows version. Just my observation.
This has more to do with Apples snobbish relationship with there developers as of recent.
I think you wouldn't have to look further than simply seeing the sheer number of Windows developers compared to the number of Mac developers, to see why they have an easier time updating and supporting the Windows client.
Many of the "Windows developers" I know also happen to be Linux/Unix developers, and so I could see why the Linux version of VLC sees updates as well.
I only know a few Mac developers, and they usually spend a lot of time with iPhone apps, so I could see it honestly being the case where people have simply shifted their priorities towards developing for the iPhone and making money from the App Store.
Eh, at the end of the day, most people will go where the money is, and so choosing between spending your time updating the free VLC or developing iPhone apps you can sell on the App Store and get a profit from, it's fairly obvious the decision most would make.
Posts like this make wonder. Your post certainly sounds like you're just fine with the fact that developers are abandoning the Mac platform as it seems to make sense to you. You're certainly justifying their reasons for doing it.
VLC for Mac is NOT Dying: Answers below
http://wiki.videolan.org/Lunettes
Official explanation listed regarding Cocoa and the new Lunettes core.
http://wiki.videolan.org/Lunettes
Official explanation listed regarding Cocoa and the new Lunettes core.
VLC and copyright issues...
I would have to guess that the main issue Apple has with VLC is the copyright protection issues. Apple has been fine tuning DVD Player and Quicktime Player with each release to be so adept and subtle that they can detect and refuse to play even bitwise identical copies of DVDs by giving an error message "could not confirm the authenticity of this DVD". In such cases, the only way a Mac user can watch a video (which may be legitimate but lacks the advanced copyright protocols) is to use VLC player.
In short, Apple is trying to be a "trusted media" platform, and VLC player is a hole in that scheme.
I would have to guess that the main issue Apple has with VLC is the copyright protection issues. Apple has been fine tuning DVD Player and Quicktime Player with each release to be so adept and subtle that they can detect and refuse to play even bitwise identical copies of DVDs by giving an error message "could not confirm the authenticity of this DVD". In such cases, the only way a Mac user can watch a video (which may be legitimate but lacks the advanced copyright protocols) is to use VLC player.
In short, Apple is trying to be a "trusted media" platform, and VLC player is a hole in that scheme.
Well..
OK, I gonna stick my neck out and say what I think of this.
I understand VLC and why it is here. It seems to be some sort of Swiss Army tool for "video" and that is often one of the problems with open source applications. It try to do everything but end up doing nothing really good.
It's probably the app on my Macs that crashes most frequently. It is so bad that I no longer really think of it. It is still there but No, it's not an alternative anymore and it will probably go away during the next big clean-up.
The interface is horrible. Filled with techno-babble and just a big mess. Some time things happen, sometimes not. MS Office is a joy in user friendliness compared to VLC. It seems that most apps coming out of the 3l1t3 open source community (the one that true Linux geeks gravitate to) have this problem. It is a typical geek/nerd app, and most users of this (as with Firefox) uses it because they have heard that it is "really really good" (usually because it is FREE (and therefor must be really really good)) and believe in the FUD. It is basically the same way Firefox is spread on the Mac. Most Mac users I meet just want Firefox, but nobody can explain why - it's just something they heard from others. But when the actually tested Safari and see that it is faster, easier, cleaner then never go back. But you can't critizise something like Firefox, their FUD, etc, now can you? I mean, are for or against "the community"?
The most pathetic thing is that they must stab at Apple for this situation. Oh how easy to always blame the big, ugly corporations that don't give away stuff for free. The truth is that VLC is a nice attempt at something but is horrible flawed, ugly and not worth at exist on a Mac. And the reason for this is probably the code - and, hence, the developers. Let it go away. Something better will takes it place. That is one of the main beauties of the open source community, right?
OK, I gonna stick my neck out and say what I think of this.
I understand VLC and why it is here. It seems to be some sort of Swiss Army tool for "video" and that is often one of the problems with open source applications. It try to do everything but end up doing nothing really good.
It's probably the app on my Macs that crashes most frequently. It is so bad that I no longer really think of it. It is still there but No, it's not an alternative anymore and it will probably go away during the next big clean-up.
The interface is horrible. Filled with techno-babble and just a big mess. Some time things happen, sometimes not. MS Office is a joy in user friendliness compared to VLC. It seems that most apps coming out of the 3l1t3 open source community (the one that true Linux geeks gravitate to) have this problem. It is a typical geek/nerd app, and most users of this (as with Firefox) uses it because they have heard that it is "really really good" (usually because it is FREE (and therefor must be really really good)) and believe in the FUD. It is basically the same way Firefox is spread on the Mac. Most Mac users I meet just want Firefox, but nobody can explain why - it's just something they heard from others. But when the actually tested Safari and see that it is faster, easier, cleaner then never go back. But you can't critizise something like Firefox, their FUD, etc, now can you? I mean, are for or against "the community"?
The most pathetic thing is that they must stab at Apple for this situation. Oh how easy to always blame the big, ugly corporations that don't give away stuff for free. The truth is that VLC is a nice attempt at something but is horrible flawed, ugly and not worth at exist on a Mac. And the reason for this is probably the code - and, hence, the developers. Let it go away. Something better will takes it place. That is one of the main beauties of the open source community, right?
I'm sad to see that VLC doesn't have support. I guess there's a lot of people programming iPhone apps rather than working to improve a freeware video player. I don't blame them.
VLC could use an update, esp since I can't get it to open as one stinking window! That's one reason I stopped using it after I switched to 10.6. I now use Perian with Quicktime and it's great.
VLC could use an update, esp since I can't get it to open as one stinking window! That's one reason I stopped using it after I switched to 10.6. I now use Perian with Quicktime and it's great.
1080p h264 videos hover at around 80-100% CPU using various media players on my MBP. If I fire up W7 on the same machine and open the exact same files that drops to 5-15% using Media Player Classic - Home Cinema (no codec packs required FUD fans). Perhaps Apple will eventually create an API that allows 3rd party coders to hook into the GPU, and I don't mean any OpenCL shenanigans either, every GPU released in the past 3/4 years has dedicated decoding hardware. Rather than the current stupid situation where only a few certain types of file are accelerated, using Quicktime if you have a very particular GPU.
(On my old Quad Core vista machine the same files used an almighty 2% of the CPU)
It seems more people on the windows platform are willing to develop for VLC. It is not a conspiracy just the fact that there are more people chipping in. You can observe this over and over again with the mac folks. It is really too bad but I am not contributing either.
It seems more people on the windows platform are willing to develop for VLC. It is not a conspiracy just the fact that there are more people chipping in. You can observe this over and over again with the mac folks. It is really too bad but I am not contributing either.
Nobody said anything about a conspiracy. Maybe you should reread my post that was actually quoting someone else, not you.
Developers aren't "abandoning" the Mac platform so much as they're re-focusing on areas where they'll be more profitable (i.e., less freeware/open source development and more towards areas such as iPhone apps).Posts like this make wonder. Your post certainly sounds like you're just fine with the fact that developers are abandoning the Mac platform as it seems to make sense to you. You're certainly justifying their reasons for doing it.
If anything, I'd imagine that Apple software development is at its highest in years overall, given the increases in marketshare that Apple has been experiencing.
I said that it makes sense to me as to why they'd do it: why put in dozens, hundreds or thousands of hours of development time into a project that provides no financial return when you can spend that time working on an app or apps that will provide financial return?
No where did I say that I thought it was a good thing. Understanding a reason =/= thinking it's a good thing.
Edit - I should add that when I mentioned that I knew only a few Mac developers, that's how it's been for years. They're still developing for Mac, and I even know a few people who started off with Windows and eventually switched. It's just when Windows (between its various versions) is at 93ish % of the market, obviously a large portion of your developer base will be developing for Windows, because that's where they're likely to make the most profit.
Exactly. It's a matter of pure numbers. I mean, let's say 1% of your developer base on either platform is willing to contribute to a project. You'll have far more Windows developers than OS X developers, even with both at 1%, solely because there are so many more of them. Thus, in VLC's case, it's easier to find Windows contributors.
It seems more people on the windows platform are willing to develop for VLC. It is not a conspiracy just the fact that there are more people chipping in. You can observe this over and over again with the mac folks. It is really too bad but I am not contributing either.