Having a high-end VR device that doesn't provide the option to tether to a desktop/laptop was foolish to begin with. The onboard GPU is just far too weak to do much of anything in fully rendered 3d VR environments, and the battery life is stupid short. Live and learn I suppose.
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Vision Pro 2 Rumored to Have Two Key Advantages Over Current Model
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One of those apparently has higher resolution than AVP.
The computers in those headsets don’t need to render the 3d virtual environment because they are designed to be tethered to a suitable host with a powerful enough GPU. Not sure why you think that is not VR when that is literally how the whole thing got to a point it could pick up steam (no pun intended) with consumers. VR is still done this way as well, and some even prefer it over some space-constrained computer generating extra heat trying to render 3d worlds 2 inches from your face.
You want a VR headset then, and the AVP is an XR headset, so you unfortunately are not the customer, as it is the wrong product for you. Buy the product you want, rather than being frustrated with Apple [I got over that hurdle a long time ago when I realised Apple were not interest in building Pro graphics machines].
Which also raises the question, which computer are you hooking this headset upto to get these awesome 3D worlds. Certainly not gaming on a mac, and there is no chance in hell that I would use my macs for real time rendering [this is what a PC is for].
I would hold out for the next Meta Quest / Samsung Android headset.
My post is not about anything I want. He said some headsets named by another poster were “not VR” and were “low res.” He was asked to clarify why they are “not VR”. His “clarification” looked like misinformation. I responded.
I’m in complete agreement.
That points to another plus of tethered HMDs: you can upgrade your rendering hardware without having to buy a new HMD.
Yes it does, and you buy the right hardware to suit your uses.
For example I use a Quest 3 for real time viz and design and also my XR design testing to load in the experience. I always disconnect the cable to test out the experience no matter what it is as it’s a big pain unless you are pretty much stationary. There is also quite a bit of weight in the cable.
It’s also not practical to have a 20 foot power cord attached to it while it’s on your head
It sure looks like they’re heading that way, but again, why? An interface developed for AR spatial interactions that they’re going to bolt on a 2D interface across the rest of the ecosystem? Seems ill-conceived but I’m just a dumb consumer.
A wired Thunderbolt/USB 4 connection can provide power and low latency data from a Mac.
I'm ignorant in that I've never used any kinda pro gaming PC but I just played the resident evil remakes on my Mac mini base model and it was some of the best and smoothest graphics I've ever seen personally . the biggest problem I've seen with apple and gaming has always been lack of developer interest
It's just an interface... like the many over the years.
And people have been complaining when things stay the same too long.
Most likely the commonality will be the transparent overlay and maybe interactions to action elements might take on more similar gestures. The aim being if you feel comfortable in one OS the rest match and make easy learning.
Maybe
Alright, have fun having a screen an inch away from your face. "no evidence" doesn't mean it's safe either, especially when we're talking about a display positioned so unnaturally close to the eyes.
I suppose that Apple will also sell a 300' spooled wire so you can stay tethered to your vision pro 2 while walking around the house .
I wonder what the Apple pricing will be on this special Apple wire ?
.I wonder what the Apple pricing will be on this special Apple wire ?
Yup. That is what I want too. The AVP has the competence to do it but the software is not there yet. My last 1.5 hour AVP session proved what a great product it is, but I need to do what you describe: spread out my apps (Photos, Filemaker, Affinity, Mail, Safari) and work. That is not there yet; software is at beta level, even when using Apple's base apps.As my "Working from Home"-setup is becoming more and more "Working from the couch", I'd really appreciate it if we could use it directly as an interface for the Mac.
Obviously, I would still want to run VisionOS apps on it, but having a mode where you could just spread all the Mac apps across the sky while pretending to be sitting in a (surprisingly comfy) beautiful landscape, would be a killer app for me.
Oh, and some more of those shark videos and stuff as well
I think the main reason it is beta still, is that XR is seriously complicated and requires some significant mental gymnastics with space, media and scripting.
Yup. The AVP is just a bit of software evolution away from being "basically the world’s most portable multi-large-monitor setup." And that is a killer app. E.g. I spent more than $1k each on three 4K displays and AVP mimics that well now, but it does not yet have the app support working bombproof. When the app support is up to snuff the $3K for the device will be totally acceptable.
Actually I totally think that There are enough of us to make the platform sustainable. The AVP hardware absolutely rocks, and its demonstration-level software clearly shows the device's potential. Now the software needs to evolve, and it will. Apple can afford to support the evolution.
Folks who want the (new tech direction) AVP to be instant commercial success simply do not get it. Taking time is OK. And, Apple can sell devices to high priced smaller niche markets too.
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Exactly. Personally I would have no trouble plugging in to a Mac. And MBPs are so powerful the package would still be portable.
A cheaper version will happen with the next release. Price $1999.99 and that’s for the basic model.
Does the Ultrawide virtual display not work for you? I suppose I can see wanting window detached from a display window. But at the same time, it is kind of good to have them segregated so that you know the interaction with them is on a different machine.As my "Working from Home"-setup is becoming more and more "Working from the couch", I'd really appreciate it if we could use it directly as an interface for the Mac.
Obviously, I would still want to run VisionOS apps on it, but having a mode where you could just spread all the Mac apps across the sky while pretending to be sitting in a (surprisingly comfy) beautiful landscape, would be a killer app for me.
Oh, and some more of those shark videos and stuff as well
I find no drawback from the current virtual display features and I use mine from 4 to 8 hours per day... and sometimes more. The use of my Mac Studio and my MacBook Pro has been about 98% through my Vision Pro since the update that added the ultra wide display.