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It just works for me... as long as I am facing the camera correctly and not outside in direct sunlight with my mirrored sunglasses on. (It does work with my sunglasses in the shade or in my car just fine.) I’m kind of amazed how well it does work.
Mine hardly works in the dark, in different angles, when I'm not close enough looking at the screen or in bed, so "it just doesn't work" for me.
 
Yay, more goofy faces to unlock their phones in public. I get quite a laugh at it watching people do it. Dont forget to smile!
 
I’m certain that Apple, too, has developed newer, more advanced sensors for FaceID, but they will not “unveil” them until they are part of a product that is ready for sale.
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I thought it was said that it would take years to equal let alone exceed Apples technology in this area.

The Chinese company must have some amazing engineers /S.
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What are you even talking about? This isn’t a shopping product. It’s fairly meaningless. They haven’t caught up with anything that’s actually shipping. I’m sure Apple has new sensors they’re working on, too. But they don’t announce stuff about their underlying tech until it’s in a product.
 
My FaceID on the iPhone X didn't just work

Mine did. Mine “just worked” way better than Touch ID.
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No, not at all. I simply stated that "it just works" mantra didn't work for some people with faceid. I didn't say it was a failure by any stretch, just that it failed to live up to the ideal of it just works.

No, just because it didn’t work for you, doesn’t mean it failed to live up to anything.
 
Quite simple it wouldn't work all of the time and I had to type in my code instead.

I mean there are times I have to type in my code too, but the overwhelming majority of the time; “it just works”.

I wonder if it has to do with your phone in particular or if it has to do with “Require Attention” being on.
 
No, just because it didn’t work for you, doesn’t mean it failed to live up to anything.
Actually it does - it failed to live up to "it just works" which is my point. Yes, I'm in the minority but the fact remains it doesn't just work
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I mean there are times I have to type in my code too, but the overwhelming majority of the time; “it just works”.

I wonder if it has to do with your phone in particular or if it has to do with “Require Attention” being on.
Its gotten better, but I think it because its because I wear glasses, and from my research, it seems other people who have had issues are wearing glasses
 
I would be really curious why it didn't work (the phone hardware, IOS, or how you were using it).

Have you taken it to an Apple store ?
I think another thread is a better place, I feel bad about talking about this so much, and derailing some of the conversation away from the topic.
 
Remind me about whether this matters if and when it moves past a prototype demo into an actual consumer product.
 
I've seen many "better" Chinese products that packed in "more" of something and yet were complete garbage when it came to quality and software, not to mention robust support. FaceID is secure enough for me, and I certainly don't believe that more data points will outweigh the backing ecosystem needed.
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This reminds me so much of the megapixel camera war. More pixels does not always mean a better picture.

That's so funny, for me it brought up memories of the Ghz processor power marketing when that was all that people talked about and no one used.
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Yay, more goofy faces to unlock their phones in public. I get quite a laugh at it watching people do it. Dont forget to smile!

Um..... okay? You don't have to smile or make a face. Ever.
 
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Uh, the dot projector is only if of several components that make faceID work. Just because this system uses more dots...we’ll it doesn’t mean jack **** about the overall system’s performance.

It could be better than faceID, I personally doubt it, but the cherry picked spec here doesn’t do anything other than give spec nerds something to talk about.
 
I’m certain that Apple, too, has developed newer, more advanced sensors for FaceID, but they will not “unveil” them until they are part of a product that is ready for sale.
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You mean like Apples wireless charging pad. Only "unveil" when it's ready for sale?
 
Actually it does - it failed to live up to "it just works" which is my point. Yes, I'm in the minority but the fact remains it doesn't just work
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Its gotten better, but I think it because its because I wear glasses, and from my research, it seems other people who have had issues are wearing glasses

Did a month long test of an X (X vs. 8+ vs. Razer) and used suggestions from Apple and members here on how to improve the response of Face ID. It has some limitations.
I do hope they bring out landscape mode in future devices. Especially the IPP for ASK use.
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I would be really curious why it didn't work (the phone hardware, IOS, or how you were using it).

Have you taken it to an Apple store ?

Take a look here LINK
Face ID is good. Needs work. It is 1st gen.
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I don't think faceid or touchid is a failure but I think the term It just works, is an inaccurate over used meme that no longer describes apple products.
Honestly, there has never been a technology that "just works", not from any computer company.
 
Vivo says its latest 3D sensing tech is "no mere proof of concept", but it will be a while before it makes it into a commercial smartphone.

Quite a buried lede. So they didn’t really “unveil” it at all; they preannounced that they might one day ship something like it.
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I thought it was said that it would take years to equal let alone exceed Apples technology in this area.

The Chinese company must have some amazing engineers /S.

We’ll have to wait for
  • them to actually announce a phone that will have this technology,
  • that phone to ship,
  • reviews to highlight how it actually performs in practice compared to iPhone X
This is presumably a year or two away. If they had plans to ship it this year, they probably would’ve been less cagey about it.
 
Wow. You live in a Apple vacuum if you think they did facial unlock first.

Quick, Apple, lie & say you had this first, years ago, and were waiting to "perfect" it before releasing it. Then sue for patent theft.

Apple didn't claim they did facial unlock first. The MacRumors author made the connection that Vivo's claims are in response to Apple's, which is reasonable given that 1) Apple's implementation is quite widespread, widely talked about, and popular, and 2) Vivo doesn't actually have a product announcement to make yet; they just seem to want free press.
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And remember, Apple invented "multitouch".
Steve Jobs told us so :)

He did not.
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I don't think faceid or touchid is a failure but I think the term It just works, is an inaccurate over used meme that no longer describes apple products.

It was arguably always more aspiration than fact. You do still see this reflected — we can complain about cutting off 32-bit support or not offering FireWire any more, but among the benefits is simplicity, which makes it easier for their engineering to come closer to that goal. The more complexity you have, the less in reach "it just works" is.
 
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Apple didn't claim they did facial unlock first. The MacRumors author made the connection that Vivo's claims are in response to Apple's, which is reasonable given that 1) Apple's implementation is quite widespread, widely talked about, and popular, and 2) Vivo doesn't actually have a product announcement to make yet; they just seem to want free press.
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He did not.
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It was arguably always more aspiration than fact. You do still see this reflected — we can complain about cutting off 32-bit support or not offering FireWire any more, but among the benefits is simplicity, which makes it easier for their engineering to come closer to that goal. The more complexity you have, the less in reach "it just works" is.
Apple didn't claim they did facial unlock first. The MacRumors author made the connection that Vivo's claims are in response to Apple's, which is reasonable given that 1) Apple's implementation is quite widespread, widely talked about, and popular, and 2) Vivo doesn't actually have a product announcement to make yet; they just seem to want free press.
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He did not.
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I beg to differ. He claims Apple invented multi touch right here in this YouTube video


 
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