Vivo Unveils 3D Sensing Technology With 10 Times as Many Data Points as Apple's Face ID

[chucker23n1]

I beg to differ. He claims Apple invented multi touch right here in this YouTube video

OK, that's fair. I did remember him talking about it, and particularly the "boy have we patented it" moment, but I didn't remember that he literally claimed to have invented multi-touch.

That's dishonest or simplistic, of course (cf. Jeff Han, etc.). What they did however "invent" was the first mass-market implementation.

 

[sidewinder3000]

You mean like Apples wireless charging pad. Only "unveil" when it's ready for sale?

No, not like that. That’s just snarky and lazy. If you’re actually paying attention it’s not hard to see the fundamental difference. One is announcing a vague, base-level “technology” that may or may not wind up in a product over the next year, three years, or ever. The other is a real product that has been announced and was delayed for some reason.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

No, not like that. That’s just snarky and lazy. If you’re actually paying attention it’s not hard to see the fundamental difference. One is announcing a vague, base-level “technology” that may or may not wind up in a product over the next year, three years, or ever. The other is a real product that has been announced and was delayed for some reason.

And the "some reason" being that perhaps it wasn't at the time a viable product. But was announced to put people off buying third party chargers.

 

[sidewinder3000]

And the "some reason" being that perhaps it wasn't at the time a viable product. But was announced to put people off buying third party chargers.

They are different situations. Not comparable. You are wrong. Stop trying to salvage something from nothing.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

They are different situations. Not comparable. You are wrong. Stop trying to salvage something from nothing.

Not trying to salvage anything. More than nine months after announcement, still no AirPower. Why is it taking so long to put a charging mat on the market?

 

[chucker23n1]

Not trying to salvage anything. More than nine months after announcement, still no AirPower. Why is it taking so long to put a charging mat on the market?

You’re changing the goalposts. You can argue either that Apple can’t ship AirPower because the technology behind it is vaporware and not actually ready, i.e. that their PR overpromised or lied. Or — significantly different argument — that AirPower should be easy to do and that it’s an embarrassment for engineering that they haven’t shipped it.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

You’re changing the goalposts. You can argue either that Apple can’t ship AirPower because the technology behind it is vaporware and not actually ready, i.e. that their PR overpromised or lied. Or — significantly different argument — that AirPower should be easy to do and that it’s an embarrassment for engineering that they haven’t shipped it.

I don't understand comment about goal posts. I was simply commenting on Apple announcing a charging pad and it still not released to the market over nine months later. Apple fixed the goalposts when they made the announcement. I cannot recall. Did they do a live demo or just show a housing?

 

[sidewinder3000]

Not trying to salvage anything. More than nine months after announcement, still no AirPower. Why is it taking so long to put a charging mat on the market?

Who knows? But making bad comparisons doesn’t help the situation.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

One is announcing a vague, base-level “technology” that may or may not wind up in a product over the next year, three years, or ever. The other is a real product that has been announced and was delayed for some reason.

So how "real" is the Apple charging mat looking at the moment?

 

[sidewinder3000]

So how "real" is the Apple charging mat looking at the moment?

Good one.