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Well I'm no VMware shill, but on my 2008 MacPro it runs like lightening. Faster than any other Windows PCs that I have at the office or for other family members. Of course I'm running a SSD, but it was already very fast before I upgraded the drive.


I have a 2008 Mac Pro with 8 gigs of RAM and VMWare 3 is pretty darned sluggish. I defaulted to having the Aero effects on and Windows frequently recognizes that it's running slowly and asks if I'd like to turn the Aero effect off, which helps somewhat.

I use VMWare on my Windows machine at work and love it. It's fantastic. But I wish it were faster on my Mac at home.

I look forward to seeing this evening how well this upgrade speeds things up.
 
I have a 2008 Mac Pro with 8 gigs of RAM and VMWare 3 is pretty darned sluggish. I defaulted to having the Aero effects on and Windows frequently recognizes that it's running slowly and asks if I'd like to turn the Aero effect off, which helps somewhat.

I use VMWare on my Windows machine at work and love it. It's fantastic. But I wish it were faster on my Mac at home.

I look forward to seeing this evening how well this upgrade speeds things up.

Fusion 3 had huge problems with Mac Pros (and some other macs). I have a quad 2.0 @ work that Fusion 2 worked fine on, Fusion 3 ground it to a halt (both the VM and OS X, to the point where one would have to force the daemon to quit to bring back usability). The last 3.1 RC seemed to finally bring it back to a working order. Try the new 3.1 and see if you have better performance.
 
VMWare eval vs Parallels

VMware, once installed, auto starts windows when I want to open a document.

Parallels does not.

thank you.
 
Two finger scrolling? are you saying that scrolling sideways works or even that the magic mouse functions work in a VM? I have windows 7 and the scrolling hasnt changed for me?

I guess I'm used to posting in the Macbook Pro forum. What I mean is the typical 2 finger drag on the trackbad which simulates a scroll wheel works smoother with 3.1

On my other machine I've always been able to scroll with my magic mouse as well. This new update appears to make the scrolling a bit smoother when in a VM.
 
What is the best VMWare configuration to use in my Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard 10.6.3, 2.53 Ghz Core 2 Duo and 4Gb Memory. I'm virtualizing Windows 7 Enterprise.
How many cores should I assign to the Vmware? And how much Ram? I use Windows for Office applications.
If you do not have a Mac Pro, quad core iMac or Xserve than only assign 1 virtual cpu to the vm. You can't assign physical cores to Fusion, Parallels or VirtualBox, the OS and the virtualisation will spread the load between the physical cores so it happens automatically. Windows 7 runs at it best with 2 GB of memory. Don't use any more because it will leave OS X with less memory which it's not going to like. You could run Win7 with 1 GB of memory if you want.

only for office? 2GB RAM max + 2cores would be PLENTY i feel.
If you have 2 physical cores you can only assign 1 virtual cpu; if you have 4 physical cores you can only assign 1 or 2 virtual cpu's; if you have 8 physical cores you can only assign 1, 2 or 4 virtual cpu's; if you have 16 physical cores you can only assign 1, 2, 4 or 8 virtual cpu's. Assigning more virtual cpu's will end in a dead slow vm and a dead slow Mac. It will become an unusable situation so never ever assign the same amount of virtual cpu's as there are physical cores!

I started another trial of Parallels over the weekend since Visual Studio 2010 was slow at times under Fusion running Windows 7 with 1 CPU and 1 GB RAM.
That's probably because Visual Studio requires a lot more memory than 1 GB. People using 1 or 2 GB of memory in their Visual Studio vm/machine seem to be reporting a lot of performance problems. Upping the ram resolves it.
It is true about the performance of Parallels over Fusion, but with either one the best performance is found when you run the VM on another disk. The disk I/O is what kills perf. A FW800 external drive will give a much better experience with both. A Drobo or something like it works very well.
Or use something that is suited for a lot of iops like the new OCZ Vertex 2; it uses the Sandforce controller with the "special" firmware that enables the ability to have 22,500 iops instead of the default 10,000. If you don't have an enormous amount of money for a ssd the alternative would be to put it on another (separate) disk. I don't think a Drobo would be a good idea, it has too much overhead already making it a lot slower than other external firewire drives.

For an additional speed increase one should exclude the vm directory from Spotlight so it won't index the vm's. People looking for the OVFtool...it's not installed by default and it's only in the full installation package (light does not have this nor does it have the virusscanner): http://communities.vmware.com/message/1541058#1541058
 
I started another trial of Parallels over the weekend since Visual Studio 2010 was slow at times under Fusion running Windows 7 with 1 CPU and 1 GB RAM. Parallels also builds NHibernate from source quite a bit faster than VMware. I'll have to try this update tonight and report back.
That's probably because Visual Studio requires a lot more memory than 1 GB. People using 1 or 2 GB of memory in their Visual Studio vm/machine seem to be reporting a lot of performance problems. Upping the ram resolves it.

I haven't had any issues with Visual Studio 2010 and Parallels 5 running in that configuration. Its definitely more responsive than Fusion 3.02.
 
What is the best VMWare configuration to use in my Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard 10.6.3, 2.53 Ghz Core 2 Duo and 4Gb Memory. I'm virtualizing Windows 7 Enterprise.
How many cores should I assign to the Vmware? And how much Ram? I use Windows for Office applications.

1 CPU core, 1.5GB of RAM. Do not assign 2GB, that's what absolutely killed performance for me as it makes OS X swap soon (it'll be around 2.25GB for VMWare and .25 for GPU, leaving 1-1.5GB for OS X only) and then everything will grind to a halt.

I used 2 cores and 2GB before, it was a pain, especially when booting or resuming the VM (even with Fusion 3.1). Finally changed the settings to the above, and now it's super smooth, and OS X also never hangs either since I changed it to 1 core.

(Although today I bought a 4GB RAM module for a total of 6GB and gave my Windows 7 VM 3GB of RAM, but you're not gonna need that when running only Office)
 
That gives me hope. My XP VM experience is similar to yours. I upgraded my machine (2009 MBP w/ 4GB) about the same time I upgraded to 3.0, and saw an overall performance decrease. :( I've found that if I quit Safari before starting up the VM, things go much more smoothly. If I don't, it takes 5+ minutes to get to the point that it's responsive enough to use. Hopefully 3.1 resolves this. I'll have to give it a try when I get home.

I see on the VMWare site that there are benefits to XP that you only get if it's an XP VM created with 3.0 or later. Anybody know how you can tell which version was used to create the VM?
do you have a HDD or SSD? your experience wont be as good with a HDD. :(

If you have 2 physical cores you can only assign 1 virtual cpu; if you have 4 physical cores you can only assign 1 or 2 virtual cpu's; if you have 8 physical cores you can only assign 1, 2 or 4 virtual cpu's; if you have 16 physical cores you can only assign 1, 2, 4 or 8 virtual cpu's. Assigning more virtual cpu's will end in a dead slow vm and a dead slow Mac. It will become an unusable situation so never

silly me then. i wonder if they will bring HT into it at all ;)
 
The unity button in the top right of Fusion, and in the view menu is now greyed out since I upgraded to 3.1. I can live without unity, but it is an amazing feature and I'd love to know why the hell it suddenly doesn't work for me. It was working last week when I last used Fusion, before the upgrade.

Any ideas?

EDIT -- Nevermind, it's come back. Had to upgrade the VMWare tools + give it more RAM (1GB instead of 512MB) + reboot about six times. Not sure exactly what the problem was, but I'm happy to see it back. :p
 
Hi everyone.

I upgraded to 3.1: all ok except iSight: has always worked fine but now not. Someone has the same problem? Any suggestions?

Sorry for my bad English ... Google Translator helps me! This is my first post ...!

MacBook Pro C2D 2.16 + SnowLeopard + Windows Xp Service Pack 3

iSight works fine here. SnowLeopard + Win xp, sp3/Win7.
 
VMware, once installed, auto starts windows when I want to open a document.

Parallels does not.

thank you.

That depends on your settings in the preferences panel - both concerning Parallels and Vmware. For Vmware check: Preferences -> Applications -> Default applications. Uncheck: 'Open your mac files and web links using windows applications'.
 
I installed 3.1 last night. I didn't notice any significant speed increase from 3.02. The only difference between VMWare and Parallels is that my Parallels image is brand new while the VMWare image has been used for quite a while. I might have to rebuild the VMWare image and take a look again.

I was really hoping this update would deliver.
 
silly me then. i wonder if they will bring HT into it at all ;)
HT is enabled by default so OS X will see 4 cores. The problem is that HT only uses the parts of the cores that aren't in use. The question is what will Fusion or any other virtualisation app benefit from that and will you be able to assign 2 virtual cpu's successfully without bogging down the system. From what I read on the Fusion forums is that this is something they are wondering as well and they're looking into it. I doubt HT will be useful if you want to add multiple virtual cpu's due to the way it works.
 
HT is enabled by default so OS X will see 4 cores. The problem is that HT only uses the parts of the cores that aren't in use. The question is what will Fusion or any other virtualisation app benefit from that and will you be able to assign 2 virtual cpu's successfully without bogging down the system. From what I read on the Fusion forums is that this is something they are wondering as well and they're looking into it. I doubt HT will be useful if you want to add multiple virtual cpu's due to the way it works.

yes definetely. utilising HT on >50% of the overall system ends up with losing performance as there is added overheads from the way HT works, which really annoys me.

in parallels, assigning 2 cores does just that - and 4 "threads" will be used up in my hosts activity monitor. im not entirely sure of the performance hit i have - as my bottleneck is RAM :(
 
Slightly OT, but now 3.1's out: how is VM at using your Boot Camp install? Does it still corrupt/stuff up? I haven't tried it since v2...?
 
You NEED to install the Fusion drivers. They reduce CPU usage.

Can you please tell me how to check whether or not this has already been done? And if it hasn't how and what to install? My installation of Windows XP used to run great under Fusion but it has slowed to a miserable crawl, so much that I'm thinking about switching to Parallels.

thanks!
Abe Z.
 
He means the VMware Tools. In Parallels you need to install such things as well and the same goes for VirtualBox. Parallels and Fusion have an easy install option that will do an unattended Windows install setting up Windows with the username/password you defined in the easy install wizard as well as install the VMware Tools. These tools will install the appropriate drivers and make sure the vm clock is running at the same speed as the Mac's clock (the vm will display the same date/time as MacOS X). These tools also enable you to use shared folders and drag & drop files to and from the vm.

In Fusion 3.1 you should see a grey icon with the letters "vm" near the clock in the systray. If you haven't simply install the tools via the menu (Virtual Machine > Install VMware Tools).
 
I have an ESXi 4.0 machine at home, and manage a network of ESX 3.5 to 4.0 machines at work, but on the Mac I am lately preferring VirtualBox. Windows 7 is noticeably faster on by my MacBooks. It doesn't require the resources assigned to it that Fusion did, even with the 3.1 update.

I also get tired of their ridiculous claims about gaming performance. It was, is, and will probably continue to be useless for gaming.
 
Um why do I keep getting "Update checksum mismatch" when trying to update from v. 3.0.2???
 
Not a shill.

That's funny, because for both my girlfriend and I it takes 5 minutes to boot, and then it runs so slowly it is basically unusable.

I'm starting to think that anyone who says it's fast is just a shill for VMware.

Interesting.. Maybe it's your app/os combination. I routinely run an XP VM in Unity for 2 apps - IE6 (for some silly application our IT people can't be bothered to upgrade) and the VMware vSphere client. I give the VM 512MB and 1 Core. Works fine. While it won't win any speed records, and I can tell it's not running natively, it's very usable and fast enough for what it's doing. If I needed to do serious work in Windows, I'd probably kick up my MBP to 8GB of RAM and throw 2-3 GB to the VM.

Performance definitely improved (by a factor of 2-3x) when I installed the vmware tools, but that's not much of a shock.

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Hi. For a MBP i5 2.4GHz and VMware Fusion 3.1 what version of Windows 7 is better to install? 32 or 64 bit? Thanks
Use the 64 bit of any OS if possible. Running 64 bit guest OS's will require VT-x support (which the i5 has) and this will speed things up. In the end a 64 bit guest OS performs better than a 32 bit OS in Fusion (even though the 32 bit binary translation is among the fastest).
 
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