Now that VUDU plays on Apple TV it’s great competition, heck they even offer free movies with ads something Apple currently does not.
Free with ads is an oxymoron. Ads compete with content for my attention and therefore are an expense.
Now that VUDU plays on Apple TV it’s great competition, heck they even offer free movies with ads something Apple currently does not.
Actually, the main platform is UV, VUDU is one of the services. If VUDU falls you can still watch your content in any of the other providers that support UV. If anything, UV is more likely to seurvive as a service than iTunes movies.I refuse to buy things like movies on these platforms with stupid names like VUDU. I mean, who is more likely to be around in 20 years: VUDU or Apple? Yeah, that's why I buy stuff from Apple. I don't want to have to download and use some third party app that will break when the service shuts down. Apple will probably also provide some sort of pathway to upgrading movies to 4K as well (I did a quick search and it seems like VUDU doesn't allow upgrades to 4K, you have to spend the full $30).
Actually, the main platform is UV, VUDU is one of the services. If VUDU falls you can still watch your content in any of the other providers that support UV. If anything, UV is more likely to seurvive as a service than iTunes movies.
Problem is that the UV providers are dying off one by one. Flixster just announced that they are exiting, and CinemaNow is already gone. That leaves only FandangoNow and Vudu, and Fandango has only limited title availability. Vudu is really the only good UV provider left.Actually, the main platform is UV, VUDU is one of the services. If VUDU falls you can still watch your content in any of the other providers that support UV. If anything, UV is more likely to seurvive as a service than iTunes movies.
Free with ads is an oxymoron. Ads compete with content for my attention and therefore are an expense.
I refuse to buy things like movies on these platforms with stupid names like VUDU. I mean, who is more likely to be around in 20 years: VUDU or Apple? Yeah, that's why I buy stuff from Apple. I don't want to have to download and use some third party app that will break when the service shuts down. Apple will probably also provide some sort of pathway to upgrading movies to 4K as well (I did a quick search and it seems like VUDU doesn't allow upgrades to 4K, you have to spend the full $30).
You missed my point. Content isn't free if there are ads. Ads are a form of payment to get the content. That's why free with ads is an oxymoron.I happen to agree about ads, as I prefer to pay to content without ads. But I think the Movies On Us has been well received by people at Vudu. There are lots of people that don't mind ad breaks if they can get content for free.
I'm fully aware that they're owned by Walmart. Did you forget that Walmart used to have a music service and a lot of people got screwed over when that shut down?VUDU is owned by Walmart. They are not going anywhere. VUDU let’s you convert physical copies of movies into digital ones for a price. Now that VUDU plays on Apple TV it’s great competition, heck they even offer free movies with ads something Apple currently does not.
Maybe you should have conducted a little more research into Vudu and Ultraviolet. It's also pretty funny you ding Vudu for not offering lower priced upgrades to 4K because you think Apple will at some point in the future. You can't make this stuff up.
You always run the risk buying digitally. Most of Vudu is UV enabled - so even if Vudu were to go under, you still maintain the rights to the title you purchased (in theory). But even the future of UV is hazy right now.
Actually, the main platform is UV, VUDU is one of the services. If VUDU falls you can still watch your content in any of the other providers that support UV. If anything, UV is more likely to seurvive as a service than iTunes movies.
You must not have children, lol.The idea of keeping movies forever is great, but even if you can get past the part where most people only watch a movie a few times in their life, there is a bigger obstacle. Sure, some people have a movie they watch every year, or maybe twice a year, but the average person doesn't, or they are ok with purchasing it again.
I refuse to buy things like movies on these platforms with stupid names like VUDU. I mean, who is more likely to be around in 20 years: VUDU or Apple? Yeah, that's why I buy stuff from Apple. I don't want to have to download and use some third party app that will break when the service shuts down. Apple will probably also provide some sort of pathway to upgrading movies to 4K as well (I did a quick search and it seems like VUDU doesn't allow upgrades to 4K, you have to spend the full $30).
Like I already replied to someone else, people forget when Wal-Mart shut down their music download service many years ago. A lot of people got screwed over by that. Things like this get shut down not because the company behind them goes bankrupt, but because the company behind them made a decision to shut them down due to licensing terms changing, no longer making a profit because they can't compete on price or feature set, etc.To be fair, Vudu has been around for 10 years now, and it's owned by Walmart, so it's not like it's going anywhere soon. I only redeem movies for Vudu if they come with my Blu-rays, otherwise I'm with Apple/iTunes all the way.
It was Apple's attempt to consolidate multiple apps into one area. You still need the app. Problem is, that unless everyone is on board and allows access in the TV app, it's a mixed bag. Netflix for example isn't included.
Thanks, I've tried that and the other settings. I think it's Apple's sound encoding with movies. In the trailers app, some are very loud with great dynamic range (The Force Awakens for example).Make sure you have the Best Available option selected in Audio settings to get the DD+ to come though. Although the ATV4 has always been flaky with audio.
VUDU movies have Dolby Digital Plus, and sound louder/fuller than movies from the iTunes Store. It will be interesting to see if this is an encoding thing, or if it's the AppleTV 4.
For example, the opening of John Wick 2 played on VUDU thru my TV app sounds incredibly loud, full and dynamic. Same movie thru AppleTV sounds tepid.
I much prefer the interface of the AppleTV, but the sound quality of iTunes movies thru ATV4 leaves a lot to be desired. Tonight I can play same content on same device thru different services, and see where the issue is.
Like I already replied to someone else, people forget when Wal-Mart shut down their music download service many years ago. A lot of people got screwed over by that. Things like this get shut down not because the company behind them goes bankrupt, but because the company behind them made a decision to shut them down due to licensing terms changing, no longer making a profit because they can't compete on price or feature set, etc.
You sound really "off piste", so I see why you named yourself that. What is your deal then? I wasn't even talking to you in that quote. You just keep saying that I don't understand but you won't explain why. I doubt you even understand it! Years from now when the movie industry changes their mind and goes in a completely different direction developing a new alliance or consortium to combat the rising power of Netflix or who knows what else, I'll be secure with my Apple-backed digital downloads. I've been around long enough to see many formats and services rise and fall and throughout it all the only one that has been consistent and available is Apple's. Even physical discs fall in and out of vogue. I have every confidence I'll still be able to watch my digital copies purchased from Apple in 20 years which is why I've made the decision to buy everything digital through them. That's how I operate so get over it, it's my personal choice!You still don't understand what ultraviolet is. I would say it's unreal you keep running your mouth (or waggling your fingers).
Sure, it is different.It's no different than restaurants not letting you bring another companies food in it to sit down and eat.
Wow, there is no comparison. Played the opening scene in John Wick 2 on ATV4, first from iTunes and then on VUDU app. Night and day difference. VUDU was louder, fuller and had much more dynamic range. Immediately noticeable and significant difference. Even tried turning up the volume on the iTunes version, still sounded thin and compressed.My buddy who is a sound engineer and my own ears long suspected iTunes movies on AppleTV are doing a DRC to all files. Even when the option is turned off in ATV. DRC is part of the encoding process it seems. Comparing ATV dynamic range to other services reveal massive differnces. If this continues when ATV finally goes 4k and possible Atmos sound, then it's still a dead platform those of us invested in quality home theater entertainment.
You must not have children, lol.
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I love how people always say "the average person," without backing it up with nothing. I would say the average person DOES watch their favorite movie a heck of a lot more than once. Why do you think they always rerun Harry Potter on ABC Family - nearly every two months, or certain movies like The Godfather, Goodfellas, Titanic, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, It's a Wonderful Life, Wizard of Oz, etc... are rerun CONSTANTLY? Oh, I don't know, because people will almost always stop and watch them? This idea that very few people watch movies multiple times is a stupid falsehood, not at all supported by anything when the anecdotal evidence clearly says otherwise.
Or they're just getting the app out there for now. Amazon is coming to the ATV in the fall, and Tim Cook suggested there'd be substantial news about the ATV. It's entirely possible Apple's plans include changes to the terms for 3rd party content purchases/rentals, something Amazon could agree with. If so, it's still reasonable for Vudu to get their app out there now to get the basic mechanism widely tested before the fall updates.Typical Apple..."We'll let you watch your VUDU content, but you can't rent or buy it from OUR device!". I guess negotiations with Walmart for Apple to get a piece of the every VUDU rental or purchase must have fallen through.
Because apple takes a 30% cut. Same reason you can't buy a Spotify subscription through appIt's the same with the Amazon Video app, you can watch Prime or previously purchased content, but you can't buy new content (you can add it to your watchlist, to make the purchase outside of the app).
[doublepost=1503404371][/doublepost]What I'd like to see soon is Vudu content integrated into the global search and the TV app.
You sound really "off piste", so I see why you named yourself that. What is your deal then? I wasn't even talking to you in that quote. You just keep saying that I don't understand but you won't explain why. I doubt you even understand it! Years from now when the movie industry changes their mind and goes in a completely different direction developing a new alliance or consortium to combat the rising power of Netflix or who knows what else, I'll be secure with my Apple-backed digital downloads. I've been around long enough to see many formats and services rise and fall and throughout it all the only one that has been consistent and available is Apple's. Even physical discs fall in and out of vogue. I have every confidence I'll still be able to watch my digital copies purchased from Apple in 20 years which is why I've made the decision to buy everything digital through them. That's how I operate so get over it, it's my personal choice!
Who said average? I said most people dont watch movies more than once. Not your favorite, but all movies. Take every movie you have watched more than once and divide it by all movies you have seen. Im willing to bet it rounds close to 1. Saying you watch harry potter every sixty days means nothing if you watch twenty movies between.
People dont always stop and watch them. Heck, I bet people falsely remember the number of times they have watched it's a wonderful life simply because having access to it every year makes them confused between the number of times they saw it and how frequently they thought about it.we know they do that for other things, so it's not a stretch to say it applies to movies.
I refuse to buy things like movies on these platforms with stupid names like VUDU. I mean, who is more likely to be around in 20 years: VUDU or Apple? Yeah, that's why I buy stuff from Apple. I don't want to have to download and use some third party app that will break when the service shuts down. Apple will probably also provide some sort of pathway to upgrading movies to 4K as well (I did a quick search and it seems like VUDU doesn't allow upgrades to 4K, you have to spend the full $30).