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That is partially true. Yes most of Vudu is UV (although there are plenty of movies and TV that aren't). And while you do get the UV license in your locker, there are rumors that a new Movies Anywhere platform might be coming that breaks from UV. This would be backed by Keychest (the tech Disney uses). It's all up in the air right now for the future - and frankly kind of a mess.
Look at Flixter Video - they just announce they are shutting down US operations. While that was mainly used as a redemption service - it's one less option to watch UV titles.
Problem is that the UV providers are dying off one by one. Flixster just announced that they are exiting, and CinemaNow is already gone. That leaves only FandangoNow and Vudu, and Fandango has only limited title availability. Vudu is really the only good UV provider left.
For sure to both, read about it yesterday, but it was more a move by fandago which owns partly flixster since last year, same w rotten tomatoes and they discuss what was going to be cut since a year ago.
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This is pretty funny. Sure, Apple has hundreds of billions in cash reserves, but they would go under first. Right, keep dreaming....
Who said anything about apple going under lol, they remove services when they don't make money and you can't use other services if they remove it or make it laptop only and no more cloud based ;)
 
Not sure if vudu on atv4 is using Dolby Digital Plus. I have force awakens and rogue one on both iTunes and Vudu via UV. Know way to really know what codec is being used since atv4 decodes everything to lcpm but when I play iTunes versions I get 7.1 channels which has to be DD+ as they are supposed to be. On Vudu app I get only 5.1 channels so could be basic DD but hard to know. Didn't listen long enough to really assess differences in quality or dynamic range but loudness was very similar and would actually give the edge to the iTunes versions in my brief listen. I have a pretty capable sound system with a Denon x4300h, Klipsch reference premier speakers and dual SVS subs in a 5.2.4 setup. Any one get 7.1 channels out of Vudu app on movies proving it's DD+?

Update: I can confirm that those movies using Vudu on my TiVo are bitstreamed in DD+ 7.1 so I don't think ATV4 Vudu app supports DD+. Bummer.
 
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That is partially true. Yes most of Vudu is UV (although there are plenty of movies and TV that aren't). And while you do get the UV license in your locker, there are rumors that a new Movies Anywhere platform might be coming that breaks from UV. This would be backed by Keychest (the tech Disney uses). It's all up in the air right now for the future - and frankly kind of a mess.

Look at Flixter Video - they just announce they are shutting down US operations. While that was mainly used as a redemption service - it's one less option to watch UV titles.

Details on Movies Anywhere have been sparse. I doubt they're going to roll out a service that's less proficient than what they currently have. But you never know...
 
Maybe with Movies Anywhere, Hollywood will finally get it right. Maybe?
Not sure if vudu on atv4 is using Dolby Digital Plus. I have force awakens and rogue one on both iTunes and Vudu via UV. Know way to really know what codec is being used since atv4 decodes everything to lcpm but when I play iTunes versions I get 7.1 channels which has to be DD+ as they are supposed to be. On Vudu app I get only 5.1 channels so could be basic DD but hard to know. Didn't listen long enough to really assess differences in quality or dynamic range but loudness was very similar and would actually give the edge to the iTunes versions in my brief listen. I have a pretty capable sound system with a Denon x4300h, Klipsch reference premier speakers and dual SVS subs in a 5.2.4 setup. Any one get 7.1 channels out of Vudu app on movies proving it's DD+?

Update: I can confirm that those movies using Vudu on my TiVo are bitstreamed in DD+ 7.1 so I don't think ATV4 Vudu app supports DD+. Bummer.

Finding the same. Vudu app is only passing 3/2/0.1 on my system whereas iTunes passes 3/4/0.1.

Hoping that gets updated for the new ATV to also support Vudu UHD titles.
 
Anyone use the VUDU app on the AppleTV yet? Thoughts on it?

I was finally able to sign in yesterday and saw my movies/tv shows I have (mostly Disney).

This morning I started Beauty and the Beast 2017 and it looked less than stellar. I then opened the iTunes version and it looked better. I scrolled ahead to the snow scene and on VUDU everything looked a tad washed out and in a lower resolution…same spot playing via iTunes stream and it was crisp and as bright/full color as it should be. I let it play a little longer in case the quality needed to ramp up, and while it seemed to get better, it never displayed fantastically.

I’ve used YouTube, Vimeo, TV Station channel/Apps, etc and though some may start out a bit lesser quality, they quickly ramp up and look great. My wife might have been up using her phone to check facebook, so it wasn’t like we were overusing our stream. And I started to just watch VUDU for a while without trying iTunes.

So, anyone else give it a try and have similar or different results? I don’t see an resolution settings in the app.
 
If you really care about the media, buy the physical disk with digital version included.
 
Anyone use the VUDU app on the AppleTV yet? Thoughts on it?

I was finally able to sign in yesterday and saw my movies/tv shows I have (mostly Disney).

This morning I started Beauty and the Beast 2017 and it looked less than stellar. I then opened the iTunes version and it looked better. I scrolled ahead to the snow scene and on VUDU everything looked a tad washed out and in a lower resolution…same spot playing via iTunes stream and it was crisp and as bright/full color as it should be. I let it play a little longer in case the quality needed to ramp up, and while it seemed to get better, it never displayed fantastically.

I’ve used YouTube, Vimeo, TV Station channel/Apps, etc and though some may start out a bit lesser quality, they quickly ramp up and look great. My wife might have been up using her phone to check facebook, so it wasn’t like we were overusing our stream. And I started to just watch VUDU for a while without trying iTunes.

So, anyone else give it a try and have similar or different results? I don’t see an resolution settings in the app.

I checked out Hateful 8, Avatar, Aliens, they looked pretty fantastic, H8 has some especially beautiful shots that can get blown out (outside, snow).

Maybe a brief network clog? Something Disney related? Phantom space monsters?
 
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I checked out Hateful 8, Avatar, Aliens, they looked pretty fantastic, H8 has some especially beautiful shots that can get blown out (outside, snow).

Maybe a brief network clog? Something Disney related? Phantom space monsters?

Thanks. I'll check with some other movies. I think Disney is the only one i have in both providers.
I should check the YouTube/GooglePlay version now too.

It looked like 720 HD or something, not full 1080 HD. I figured Disney would be the top quality for a newer release. I know some of my VUDU movies are SD, I think one is either HDX or 4K perhaps...check that: a few UHD movies in my collection.
 
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Anyone use the VUDU app on the AppleTV yet? Thoughts on it?

I was finally able to sign in yesterday and saw my movies/tv shows I have (mostly Disney).

This morning I started Beauty and the Beast 2017 and it looked less than stellar. I then opened the iTunes version and it looked better. I scrolled ahead to the snow scene and on VUDU everything looked a tad washed out and in a lower resolution…same spot playing via iTunes stream and it was crisp and as bright/full color as it should be. I let it play a little longer in case the quality needed to ramp up, and while it seemed to get better, it never displayed fantastically.

I’ve used YouTube, Vimeo, TV Station channel/Apps, etc and though some may start out a bit lesser quality, they quickly ramp up and look great. My wife might have been up using her phone to check facebook, so it wasn’t like we were overusing our stream. And I started to just watch VUDU for a while without trying iTunes.

So, anyone else give it a try and have similar or different results? I don’t see an resolution settings in the app.

I tested Rogue One on both Vudu and iTunes and the video quality seemed the same to me. The Vudu audio was lesser as reported earlier.
 
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Thanks. I'll check with some other movies. I think Disney is the only one i have in both providers.
I should check the YouTube/GooglePlay version now too.

It looked like 720 HD or something, not full 1080 HD. I figured Disney would be the top quality for a newer release. I know some of my VUDU movies are SD, I think one is either HDX or 4K perhaps...check that: a few UHD movies in my collection.

Yeah, I don't have anything in both for a comparison of the same content.

I guess I could connect my Vudu locker with DMA (right now it's only connected with iTunes and Google/YT), then I could do a much better comparison. I could also "disconnect" it, I was kind of keeping Disney out of Vudu just to avoid clutter (between Disney and it's other properties, Pixar, Star Wars, Marvel Studios ... we have a bunch of Disney titles!)

It does look better vs. Airplay, and there's no question for me, it's more convenient.
 
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yeah my test has only been 1 disney movie...just to check the differences.

I have a few other movies in VUDU i can check and see. some are UHD so I'd think they should play at the highest level I can view with my 1080 TV
 
Now you are just being silly by parsing your definition of "most" vs "average."

Who said most people watch ALL movies multiple times?

I'm saying a LOT of people do watch their favorites more than once and presumably if you are buying a movie - unless you are a silly collector like me, who has over 2,000 movies, you are buying movies that you are going to watch more than once. You are using an oversimplified and obvious generalization when you say "People don't always stop to watch them." Of course not everyone stop to watch them, I never said that.

Yes you did:
Oh, I don't know, because people will almost always stop and watch them?

I'd argue most people are MORE likely to REWATCH movies they already know they love than to give something NEW a try.

I didn't say that they don't see movies more than once. I said that the number of times people watch the same exact movie is far, far less then the number of movies they only see once.

Why do you think sequels and franchises are so popular and completely new films aren't?
You do realize, I hope, that sequels are new movies. Superman isn't the same as Superman 2.

Or new TV shows fail? Some people have limited time or patience and do like to spend it watching something familiar. Especially when there's a lot of bad films out there now.

Not to mention spending $15 - $25 to own a movie is still cheaper than taking a family out to the theater and if you like it, you'll most likely watch it a few more times.

And if you don't like it, well, you still own it! So $20 to buy a movie, that costs $5 to rent in the first month, $1.99 six months later, and $0.99 from then on. What a deal. It pays for itself after only the 15th viewing! But most people won't get to 15 views and they will end up spending more to get the newest release of the film.

"People confuse the number times they watch It's a Wonderful Life?"

Yes.

What does that have to do with the cost of tea in China? Do you really think you can convince someone they didn't watch a film the number of times they said they did?

No, they do that on their own.

You are just making stuff up to "support" your original statement. I didn't say anything about the number of times someone watches something, I said they watch it multiple times.

And I disagree. The number of times people see the same movie, when you consider the number of movies people watch over their life, is so close to 1 it might as well be. Sure, some people might watch some movies more than once, but those people likely see other movies too, and it washes out to 1 in the end.

And that wasn't really my point anyway. The chances that you will watch a movie you bought enough times before a higher resolution copy feels necessary makes the cost of the movie seem overprices. For most people it is cheaper to rent a couple of times than to buy a new copy every few years. If you read my whole post you would know that THAT is the whole point.

To use your "debating" technique almost everyone I know has that one or two movies that they will almost ALWAYS stop and watch when it's on TV. I would bet most of the people on this thread
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So you are saying it again... lol... Every time you watch a show on TV you are paying for it again. You are renting it. Which is exactly the point I was trying to make. It's better to rent a movie than to buy it.

has several movies that they've seen multiple times. I bet YOU do as well. You'd be lying if you said you don't or you just simply don't like movies. So what are you trying to "argue?" We could probably start an off topic debate about people's fav films and the number of times they've watched it.

I like movies, but I won't buy them. If I want to see something again I will rent it again either streaming or via ads when it's on TV. That's because the number of times I, or most people, see something it will never get high enough that it was cost effective to buy it.

And before you even think about using "kids" as "evidence" please understand that kids don't watch movies. It's a pacifier. Mom or Dad didn't buy entertainment for their kids they bought a tool to distract them.
 
I refuse to buy things like movies on these platforms with stupid names like VUDU. I mean, who is more likely to be around in 20 years: VUDU or Apple? Yeah, that's why I buy stuff from Apple. I don't want to have to download and use some third party app that will break when the service shuts down.

The service we buy MOVIES from is called ITUNES, if that's not a stupid name, I don't know what is...?

That said, iTunes is one of my top two movie purchase places the other is Vudu/Ultrarviolet:
Many (most? every?) movies from Vudu are connected to UltraViolet and several services connect to that service. For example, Flixster is going away, but all my UV content that I got there is still there and I can access with other services like Vudu or FandangoNow.

 
The service we buy MOVIES from is called ITUNES, if that's not a stupid name, I don't know what is...?

That said, iTunes is one of my top two movie purchase places the other is Vudu/Ultrarviolet:
Many (most? every?) movies from Vudu are connected to UltraViolet and several services connect to that service. For example, Flixster is going away, but all my UV content that I got there is still there and I can access with other services like Vudu or FandangoNow.​
I don't know about you, but I use the TV app (which compiles all content I can watch on my TV) on my iPhone and iPad, or the dedicated Movies app on my Apple TV to buy movies. Do you use your Mac to buy all of your movies? As for iTunes, at least that was born out of an incredibly successful service that changed the music industry forever. It was developed for a device that was primarily a music player and used that widely available software to sync, so it made sense. Confusing today on the Mac or PC? Yes. But I wouldn't say it's dumb, and it will probably be changed soon with dedicated apps for computers. But Vudu sounds like the creepy cult religion.
 
It's only through reading this site that I knew about the VUDU app... it's not visible AT ALL in the 'front page' of the Apple TV App Store
 
I don't know about you, but I use the TV app (which compiles all content I can watch on my TV) on my iPhone and iPad, or the dedicated Movies app on my Apple TV to buy movies. Do you use your Mac to buy all of your movies?

Yes this app is brilliant just for the "What's Up" and that it syncs to the other iOS devices, I'm loving it.

They really need to work on this app more. It's a game changer as far as I'm concerned!

I usually don't buy on my AppleTV, I do it on the computer mostly. Looking for deals and codes generally for future watching more than impulse buying.

As for iTunes, at least that was born out of an incredibly successful service that changed the music industry forever. It was developed for a device that was primarily a music player and used that widely available software to sync, so it made sense. Confusing today on the Mac or PC? Yes.

I understand the growth, it's just a poor name. Plus, the app could really use an update too! Maybe they'll just make a TV app for Mac (and Windows).

But Vudu sounds like the creepy cult religion.

It is a weird name. I'd guess some marketing person said to get a catchy 4-character domain name. But watching UV at VUdu gets confusing.

Do you do Vudu? The $2 conversion of home DVDs and Blu-Rays is a pretty nice feature.
 
Do you do Vudu? The $2 conversion of home DVDs and Blu-Rays is a pretty nice feature.
No, I don't have a DVD/Bluray collection. My parents had some videos growing up but they never really bought many and neither did I until I wasn't poor any more and out of college making money. It also helps that my roommate through college had a huge movie library and was a big movie geek, and that before that my best friend growing up also had a big collection, worked at the movie theater and would get us free tickets to everything, and was also a big movie geek and is now a lower-level movie director working his way up. In college Netflix streaming came out which was good enough for me, and also Redbox. So it wasn't until the last five years or so that I've started buying movies. My old roommate is still a good friend and he'll sometimes send me a batch of codes because he prefers physical copies, and I've found out about code marketplaces in the last year.
 
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It's only through reading this site that I knew about the VUDU app... it's not visible AT ALL in the 'front page' of the Apple TV App Store

I imagine that will change following the ATV5 release. ATV4 App store is pretty embarrassing.
 
Not sure if vudu on atv4 is using Dolby Digital Plus. I have force awakens and rogue one on both iTunes and Vudu via UV. Know way to really know what codec is being used since atv4 decodes everything to lcpm but when I play iTunes versions I get 7.1 channels which has to be DD+ as they are supposed to be. On Vudu app I get only 5.1 channels so could be basic DD but hard to know. Didn't listen long enough to really assess differences in quality or dynamic range but loudness was very similar and would actually give the edge to the iTunes versions in my brief listen. I have a pretty capable sound system with a Denon x4300h, Klipsch reference premier speakers and dual SVS subs in a 5.2.4 setup. Any one get 7.1 channels out of Vudu app on movies proving it's DD+?

Update: I can confirm that those movies using Vudu on my TiVo are bitstreamed in DD+ 7.1 so I don't think ATV4 Vudu app supports DD+. Bummer.

Agreed. I'm only seeing 5.1 and the quality is just average. I have yet to see 7.1 light up on my system for this app. That said, in the Family Room where I have all the good equipment, I'm still watching BDs. Picture quality matters.
 
Maybe you should have conducted a little more research into Vudu and Ultraviolet. It's also pretty funny you ding Vudu for not offering lower priced upgrades to 4K because you think Apple will at some point in the future. You can't make this stuff up.
I can't make this stuff up? Apple just announced at the keynote that 4K upgrades are free. How 'bout them apples? I'm enjoying how immediately wrong you are.
 
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