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Waiting for Broadwell MBP Thread
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The chips intended for fanless devices are launching right now, the "Core-M" chips for <5W TDP (previously known as Y-series chips). If the fanless 12" Air is a real product I would expect we'll see it before the holidays.
The current Air, MBP and above lines use much higher TDP chips which, as far as the leaks say, have been delayed until early 2015.
As much as I hope the articles mean we'll see Broadwell rMBPs this Fall, I don't see how the quotes confirm anything about the premium 15" rMBP computers. All it confirms is that that some computers will receive Broadwell chips before Christmas.
well they could make a non-flimsy solution. but the point still stands, I think Apple needs to look into the future of computing, and the future isn't cannabilizing your own sales.
You mean like introducing the iPad alongside laptops? Or a mini iPad alongside a full sized iPad?
I think there is still room for the MacBook Air. It's low cost, light weight and replaces the now discontinued MacBook. Retina Airs make sense as other ultra books will be doing the same in the bear future. Some people still want portability. 🙂
MacBH928
macrumors G3
I do not see a reason to start a new thread since this is here, I guess we are asking the same question.
When is the next revamped (all new) or major upgrade to MBP is coming? I am not talking about slight Ghz bump or an extra port. I am planning to buy a new macbook in the next year or less and I do not want to fall in the area where I buy a new computer only for the completely new one comes out couple of months later.
When is the next revamped (all new) or major upgrade to MBP is coming? I am not talking about slight Ghz bump or an extra port. I am planning to buy a new macbook in the next year or less and I do not want to fall in the area where I buy a new computer only for the completely new one comes out couple of months later.
The Leafs Fan
macrumors 6502a
Yeah with a lineup that's around this:
Forwards:
JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Santorelli-Kadri-Lupul
Komarov-Kontiola-Clarkson
Bodie-Holland-Frattin
Defense:
Phaneuf-Robidas
Reilly-Polak
Gardiner-Franson
Goalies:
Bernier and Reimer
Not too bad, eh?
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It's better to cannabilize your own sales than let someone else do it.😉
Try actually reading the last five pages of this thread rather than having everyone repeat everything.
That saying only applies if youre actually cannibalizing through innovation. At this point a 12" retina macbook air isnt in ovation compared to a 13" rmbp. Ipad pro will cannibalize as well, but if they can get hybrid down pat, itd be amazingly innovative
"The good news is that despite rumours of major delays, Intel has confirmed that it is finally shipping the Broadwell chips (at least to its customers, like Apple). This will be good news for anyone awaiting the new Retina MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iMac and Mac mini.
Broadwell, which uses the 14nm manufacturing process, is said to consume 30% less power than it's predecessor Haswell, which should be good news for battery life on the portable Macs.
In a conference call about Intel's second-quarter results on 15 July, Intel's chief executive Brian Krzanich confirmed Intels hardware partners will have Broadwell systems on store shelves in the run up to Christmas."
Ref:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/new-macbook-air-release-date-rumors-3420655/
Bam! Sounds promising!
Broadwell, which uses the 14nm manufacturing process, is said to consume 30% less power than it's predecessor Haswell, which should be good news for battery life on the portable Macs.
In a conference call about Intel's second-quarter results on 15 July, Intel's chief executive Brian Krzanich confirmed Intels hardware partners will have Broadwell systems on store shelves in the run up to Christmas."
Ref:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/new-macbook-air-release-date-rumors-3420655/
Bam! Sounds promising!
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
This rumor really doesn't bare any sentiment to it, because as it stands, the only broadwell chips slated to out before 2015, are the tablet ones - and this rumor does not state whether these "customers" are tablet buyers, or pc buyers. It could mean new broadwell tablet chips are being sent to customers, but no broadwell laptop chips. It's very vague, therefore doesn't confirm whether it means PCs or not.
MacBH928
macrumors G3
Ok I am sorry I didn't read 27 pages of a thread that started last year because I should have known by super powers that somewhere in there the question has been answered. My mistake...
I don't think we will make it again till the next lockout 🙁
If there was no lockout in 2012/2013, I am confident we would have choked away in the last 30 games
Are you for real? You didn't think a question related to Broadwell would have been discussed in....a dedicated Broadwell thread? You don't need "super powers" to deduce that - just common sense. And for the record, you would only have to read about the last five pages - not 27. Your question is the content of this entire thread, basically.
"Questions about Skylake’s release date came up following a delay of Broadwell, which will be in some thin and light PCs this holiday season but not broadly available in laptops and desktops until early next year."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2454...-pc-processors-on-schedule-for-next-year.html
(I personally would have added a 'no pun intended' after the phrase "broadly available", but hey...)
In any case this is pretty much cementing the widely held belief that we're not going to see Broadwell in a MBP this year.
Now we can debate in earnest over how minuscule or insignificant this upcoming September/October refresh is going to be! 😉
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2454...-pc-processors-on-schedule-for-next-year.html
(I personally would have added a 'no pun intended' after the phrase "broadly available", but hey...)
In any case this is pretty much cementing the widely held belief that we're not going to see Broadwell in a MBP this year.
Now we can debate in earnest over how minuscule or insignificant this upcoming September/October refresh is going to be! 😉
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
I'm honestly starting to think they won't refresh at all this year and do a broadwell update in January.
"Equipped with the most powerful processors ever in a MacBook Pro, over one hundred million Hertz faster than those found in the previous generation."
If the February 2013 refresh is anything to go on, it's looking like 0.1GHz and a modest price drop are most likely to be the defining characteristics of the late-2014 crop.
I want to believe that they'd find a way to incorporate the 850M into the higher end models, but that could create an awkward pricing/performance discrepancy in the product line, with the Iris Pro-only machines suddenly being at a noticeably more significant GPU disadvantage. Tough call.
Whatever the case, it's disappointing to think that it will have taken almost three years (Summer 2012 - Spring 2015) for the 15" rMBP to see a significant upgrade in performance in areas other than battery life. A most unfortunate lull for those of us eager for some next-gen goodness.
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Anything's possible, but I find it hard to believe any company would be eager to fill shelves with a hot new product immediately following the holiday shopping frenzy--aka the season of massive credit card bills...
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
I'm thinking this too.
"Equipped with the most powerful processors ever in a MacBook Pro, over one hundred million Hertz faster than those found in the previous generation."
If the February 2013 refresh is anything to go on, it's looking like 0.1GHz and a modest price drop are most likely to be the defining characteristics of the late-2014 crop.
I don't get why everyone is expecting a price drop again. Why is this on everyone's mind? Just because there aren't a whole lot of new features coming doesn't mean it guarantees a decrease in price.
It's the same situation that is present right now with the Iris Pro + 750M model, if anything the difference between the Iris Pro and 850M will make it less awkward, because the difference between the iGPU and dGPU is greater. The higher-end model has both Iris Pro and the 750M so it's sort of awkward when you don't know which GPU to use (because Iris Pro is better at some things, and the 750M better at others).
I think people are expecting a price drop because the non-retina MBP will be killed off soon. This leaves a price gap for the entry level rMBP to move down and fill, which would have a cascade effect on the others.
Or, if the new retina MBA doesn't replace the 11" and 13", that maybe it could move into its price point. To me it would make more sense for the 12" rMBA to be a stand alone model for the whole Air range, as an 11, 12 and 13 inch range is cluttered and would mean that the 13" would be cheaper than the 12" retina, which would look off-putting to the average consumer.
Of course, then you could have Apple keep the new rMBA the same price as the current 13" and leave the price gap empty to create a bigger differentiation between the Airs and the Pros.
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
The rMBP price cut was last year though. I see it as the rMBP was the first cut, and the MBA was the second (in succession). Not the MBA being the start of a new line of cuts. I guess my perspective is just different.
Yeahhhh, I just don't think that'll happen. In my mind the cMBP has been dead for 2 years already. Currently it's only $100 cheaper than the cheapest 13" rMBP, and I don't think they're required to have a $100 price cut just so that the 13" rMBP can mimic that exact price point - $1199. Also, the 15" doesn't have any cMBP that it would be dropping it's price for, so would that also decrease in price? If so, for what reason? Just seems eh to me. I'm not convinced.
Well prices drop on Macs year after year unless there's a huge upgrade like Retina. Even more so this year since we're using the year old outdated Haswells. I'm not expecting a huge price drop, but there probably will be one akin to the Air (which introduced nothing new except a slightly faster processor)