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to each our own. considering the amount of people complaining about slow safari scrolling for facebook on their 15" rmbp, i doubt we went from that to smooth everything in one gen of intel chips.

That was a software issue which Apple improved upon with a point release of Mountain Lion and has further completely resolved in Mavericks.
 
to each our own. considering the amount of people complaining about slow safari scrolling for facebook on their 15" rmbp, i doubt we went from that to smooth everything in one gen of intel chips.

They are complaining about performance in Mountain Lion. Mavericks is a complete new ball-game. Performance, on my rmbp was decent in ML, flawless in DP8.
 
Another question:

What do we expect in terms of the pricing of the new models? The same as the current gen, or have the prices of new MacBook Pros been gradually increasing with each launch like the iPhones?

Has the price for the iPhone been gradually increasing where you are? Here in the US I've paid the same $299 for the 32 gig for the last 4 iPhones
 
My worry is Apple will hold back due to the power consumption of bumping the screen res up. They seem to want to prolong battery life right now. The choice will come down to something like

(a) keeping battery life where it is now and bumping the screen res up
(b) increasing battery life while maintaining current screen res.

If I had to guess, I think they will go with (b) since it will please more consumers. Right now we have 7 hours of battery life, if they could advertise it at 10 hours, that's a huge gain in terms of their marketing, where announcing a slight bump in screen res would be unnoticeable to the masses.

Yeah, I can't see Apple bumping it up as high as some people on here want. They are more concerned about battery life. They aren't exactly making super-Pro machines anymore like they used to.
 
Has the price for the iPhone been gradually increasing where you are? Here in the US I've paid the same $299 for the 32 gig for the last 4 iPhones

I'm in the UK and it has gone up here slightly yeah. I paid £699 for my iPhone 5 64GB, this year the iPhone 5S is £709. When I got a 32GB iPhone 4S years ago it cost £599 for the 32GB model. Now the iPhone 5S is £629.

So the prices here have gone up slightly but I'm talking unlocked from Apple directly which is how I've always bought my iPhones I'm not sure about subsidised contract pricing

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Yeah, I can't see Apple bumping it up as high as some people on here want. They are more concerned about battery life. They aren't exactly making super-Pro machines anymore like they used to.

We don't know what the power consumption of Sharps IGZO 4K display is. It could be lower than now for all we know.
 
We don't know what the power consumption of Sharps IGZO 4K display is. It could be lower than now for all we know.

No doubt it is lower. Also likely is there have been minor improvements in battery technology. Haswell also improves power consumption. But that's quite beside the point. The real question is how much more power draw will you get from a 4k display as opposed to a 3k display currently being stocked on these machines? So what we need to know is how do 4k IGZO compare to 3k IGZOs. That extra 1k will reduce battery life (and probably in a significant way). Just turning up or down the brightness on your display has a huge impact upon battery life, so how much can IGZO really change things? If we're talking about a 10-15% improvement, that won't change the situation much.

Like you I'm really hoping for a screen res bump, I'm just not very optimistic about it.
 
Cool. You've a damn nice computer setup.

Thanks :)

I think next for me is probably some 4K displays on my Desktop if Windows ever catches up to Apple in 3rd party developer support of resolution independence. Right now they aren't even close so I may even go full Mac one day.
 
What the ****? 8k? Even 4k is way more than a consumer needs? Someone explain this to me

I wasn't specifically talking about laptop displays, I was talking about screen manufacturing in general. And 8K actually is the resolution recommend to consumers to wait for, not 4K. Because, and don't quote me on this, but once 4K becomes standard for TVs and eventually monitors, the 8K revolution will begin. It would make much more economic sense to wait out 4K until 8K becomes the standard. It might be in this page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_definition_television

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Thanks :)

I think next for me is probably some 4K displays on my Desktop if Windows ever catches up to Apple in 3rd party developer support of resolution independence. Right now they aren't even close so I may even go full Mac one day.

Idk if you should change this, but I only realized this meant 3 displays after you pointed it out "3008WFPx3".
 
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Has the price for the iPhone been gradually increasing where you are? Here in the US I've paid the same $299 for the 32 gig for the last 4 iPhones

But the carrier charges have increased as have the taxes. They get it one way or another.
 
Numerology fails again. Back to the regularly scheduled display and graphics debates!

16K and iris 10000 ;)

JK. Neither really matters to me as long as it works!

I don't understand why people simply choose to ignore how 8K will be the standard display resolution in the near future. We'll be complaining about how our iPhones only have super retina when android phones have 8K:D
 
I don't understand why people simply choose to ignore how 8K will be the standard display resolution in the near future.

I can remember Bud Tribble saying in 1990 or 1991 that computer displays would be 200dpi by 1995. We may see some high-end 8K monitors by 2020, but they will not be the standard display resolution for laptops in the near future -- unless we're talking about time on a geologic or evolutionary scale.
 
I can remember Bud Tribble saying in 1990 or 1991 that computer displays would be 200dpi by 1995. We may see some high-end 8K monitors by 2020, but they will not be the standard display resolution for laptops in the near future -- unless we're talking about time on a geologic or evolutionary scale.

By near future, I meant around 10-15 years. And I wasn't specifically talking about laptops, I was talking about displays in general.
 
By near future, I meant around 10-15 years. And I wasn't specifically talking about laptops, I was talking about displays in general.

This thread is about laptops so, at least for me, that's the presumed context unless someone specifies another context. My decision about whether or not to wait for Haswell is not influenced by any technology that I think might become standard 10-15 years into the future. I guess I'm probably not alone on this point.
 
I am looking forward to my first mac ever. I wanna know the new configurations ASAP so that I can plan accordingly :eek:

If I were to get a 15 inch rMBP I would get the base line model with 16 gb of ram. I might also upgrade the CPU to the 3.7 though that is doubtful.

Not sure how the above will translate to the refresh. Would I have to pay extra for a dGPU? Perhaps the Iris Pro version would be cheaper than the current base line 15 inch model.
 
I think there will be a silent refresh this Tuesday.


















































:D

What was the point of that?:rolleyes:

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This thread is about laptops so, at least for me, that's the presumed context unless someone specifies another context. My decision about whether or not to wait for Haswell is not influenced by any technology that I think might become standard 10-15 years into the future. I guess I'm probably not alone on this point.

Yeah, I know.
 
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