I agree, but at least they launched the iMac Pro, I know it’s not what you all want but at least it was better then nothing? It certainly seems to be a hit with You Tubers haha..
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I agree, but at least they launched the iMac Pro, I know it’s not what you all want but at least it was better then nothing? It certainly seems to be a hit with You Tubers haha..
I thought that I saw that she was banned (or banished) in early September after some rules infractions.
However, today it looks like her account is active - although there have been no posts since September. (I say "active" because there's no "suspended", "timeout", "banned" or other status on the account, and if you click the account the "Start a conversation" link is active.)
And I say "she" because it's sexist to assume that MR members are male if there's nothing to base it on. You can assume that someone with the handle "WilliamJones" is male, but why assume that "foobar" is male?
That's a fine assessment, AidenShaw. It's why I believe you and some others are cyborgs. 
No, but really, you make a good point and I have an absolutely terrible habit of making the assumption that everyone is male unless it's explicitly stated otherwise.
No, but really, you make a good point and I have an absolutely terrible habit of making the assumption that everyone is male unless it's explicitly stated otherwise.you are way behind the modern times, almost offensive. pick one of the listed below:
- Ey/em/eir/eirs
- Ne/nem/nir/nirs
- Xe/xem/xyr/xyrs
- Ze/hir/hir/hirs
- Ze/zir/zir/zirs
AMD's delivery track record is rather suspect. More likely they are not talking about Vega20 because it is no where near ready for volume any time soon or intermediate. If they are using GF then 2H 2018 is really only risk production.
" Manufacturing of the first chips using their 7LP fabrication process will ramp up in the second half of 2018. ..."
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1155...nm-plans-three-generations-700-mm-hvm-in-2018
But if dig into that "Gen 1" use of 7nm ...
"... but what we will exactly name them is yet to be seen. We will be phasing EUV in, and first drop it in for contact and vias, because that is the low risk path, and you can get away without a pellicle. This improves the cost of the process by reducing the manufacturing steps, and for our customers it means no design rip up. The 2nd phase would be leveraging it to really get a shrink using EUV. ..."
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1243...h-dr-gary-patton-cto-of-globalfoundries#three
If the bulk of the Vega20 logic is suppose to be 7nm then that is Gen 2 and it would be 2019 until hit some kind of reasonable volume at reasonable prices. 7nm without EVU means relatively very expense processing which leads to much high chip costs for larger dies. Apple would slap their 30% mark up on whatever AMD was charging so very expensive goes to very, very expensive and don't really have a "good , better, best" line up for GPUs.
Lots of indicators ( big focus on better double precision ) point to Vega20 initially being a relatively very low volume (and quite high priced ), HPC targeted GPU at first. A 12nm bump of Vega10 seems to be more likely a candidate for an updated Mac Pro if moving to something new inside of 2018.
Same way Polaris ran in parallel with Vega(10). I suspect Vega20 is going to for a decent amount of time run parallel with Vega10 in terms of product ( very high end Vega20 , high-mid Vega10 12nm(14+nm) , low end a bumped Polaris (for some GDDR6 updates same 12nm bump.) . )
Furthermore, with AMD currently selling every mid-high level GPU they produce they is little to no reason to crank up the hype machine much about the Vega20. I highly doubt it is Apple singularly being the sole prime factor here. Leaking Vega20 around Nvidia announcements to blunt those opponent hype machine moves is far more likely. Similarly, Vega20 before SuperComputer Conference 2018 in November (and top500 refresh) another more likely publicity nexus point more so than Apple.
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The analysis is a bit off. Pragmatically FGPA is even more narrow than GPGPU. Most GPUs have fixed function logic to do video compression/depression. So even the example is a bit of a head scratcher. FGPA have a usage with folks bulk data that need specialized algorithms ( internet search page rank , log analysis , narrowly specialized DSP (voice translation) , etc. )
Intel is doing same thing with their FGPA
https://www.altera.com/products/fpga/overview.html
https://www.altera.com/solutions/technology/next-gen-10-nm-technology/overview.html
Intel's EMIB multichip module technology could marry a Xeon SP die up with an Altera FPGA solution into a single module. Altera likewise have ARM cores like the Xilinx. It isn't really revolutionary in that there are systems out there now with these coupling in separate chip packages. Putting them in the same package is far more evolutionary than revolutionary.
By in larger this is "server room" stuff. I doubt Apple is going to get back into "server room" stuff in terms of products they sell or modify core macOS to deal with this. They'd be a big candidate to buy some of the tech for their data centers though.
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The current Mac Pro was announced in 2013 more as an announcement that they were going to discontinue the stop gap Mac Pro 2012 ( which was really an 2011). The iMac Pro really isn't a stop gap. In many ways it is a replacement for a large chunk of the folks that the MP 2013 worked for. There is some pressure because the pre-2012 models are on the vintage list and the 2012 model is due to join the list this Fall. However, I think the pretty much announced that current form factor was at the end of the line last April. That really hasn't changed so there is nothing new to say on that front.
Every Spring, it is the same broken clock prediction. Mac Pro is super duper important to Apple so there will be a blazing fireworks introduction at WWDC. In 2006-2010, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 ... zip. But point back to the far more infrequent broken clock where this fit to stoke the fires.
It may depend upon what other Macs are ready to go for WWDC that have some tie-in to upcoming macOS features or timeliness with competitive products ( Computek 2018 is going to fall on almost the same exact dates as WWDC this year. Usually WWDC is about a week or so later. ). If there are no Mac's at next week "education event" there are probably bigger issues than the Mac Pro that they'll need to settle Mac developers on at WWDC keynote.
If all Apple does is give themselves a deadline "before Winter of 2018" then they could do another mac tech specialist 'journalist' pow-wow and get the same visibility as WWDC among the target audience. Being able to buy at WWDC seems very doubtful even among the folks pressing for WWDC reveal. Most folks are looking for a date range. If all they are going to say is "Winter 2018" then I'd that before WWDC. They could also do controlled leaks outside the WWDC window. The other option is when they started seeding some of these with beta testers. The gross details will likely leak at that point ( so if that is a bit after WWDC then at that point then do the pow-wow thing then. I'd guess that this new box would need 10.14 beta anyway. )
The WWDC keynote is really too long as it is now ( 4 operating systems to cover ) . Honestly, they need a clean session where they just "fix" the messaging around the whole Mac line up. The laptops are somewhat jumbled in naming and focus, the Mini is comatose, the Mac Pro and iMac Pro probably will have some overlap that will need to be clarified for some. It isn't like Apple doesn't have an on campus auditorium where they can just conveniently hold an hour session with some demo and talk time afterwards. If WWDC just got through the macOS issues that would be fine (which isn't a small list and crystal clear either. )
That would be a decent step for a Mac Pro. Still tough for Apple. If they were able to get a supply of Vega 20s, that would be a slam dunk for Apple. Especially if they wanted to differentiate against the iMac Pro and really push the Mac Pro into a special category.
I worry that Apple pushing out just another Intel (or even AMD) box with Vega is not going to make a splash worthy of how long we've had to wait.
Apple is going to want some twist or unique spin on the workstation tower formula. There are good ways that could go with stuff like specialized Vega hardware, and bad ways that could go like "We made is a pyramid!"
I think a dedicated Mac session outside of WWDC is actually an option, but it would be hard to ignore the coldly received MacBook Pro, which is supposedly exactly what Apple is going to do this year.
I have a really hard time believing Apple would want to sit out Vega M, but I haven't looked at the thermals on that to see if it's even an option for the MacBook Pro. Maybe you'd know.
This secrecy is stupid. It’s a damn desktop.
A-freak’n-men! Preach on!
It’s not like it’s a massive “shock” unveiling or a “one more thing”. I really expect a tease or more between NAB and WWDC-if nothing they really don’t give a damn.
“Can’t innovate anymore my ass...” a quote that should go down in history.
What makes it worse is... the next time Apple even mentioned the Mac Pro was in the "apology meeting" with all those bloggers 4 years later.
It's definitely a black-eye for Apple. And a sad part of their history!
Oh I agree the new Mac Pro will not be announced as available for order in the Apple Store at WWDC, just that it is coming at the end of the year or early in 2018 (so as was done with the Late 2013 Mac Pro and Late 2017 iMac Pro).
As to the rest of the line, they updated everything but the Mini and Pro last WWDC so Apple could be going for a mid-year refresh cycle to replace the more traditional (as of late) late-year recycle or they could only mention the Mac Pro and save everything else for an October "Back to the Mac" event.
Agreed, but let's face it - if Apple doesn't announce new iMacs and MacBooks / MacBook Pros at WWDC and instead waits until October, this board will be in flames because more than 12 months have passed since the last hardware update and folks will be triggered. But if they don't at least talk about the Mac Pro at WWDC, this board will be incandescent.
The early Vega20 GPU will likely be sold as Radeon Pro or Radeon Instinct cards. AMD is probably going to sell them at a higher mark up than Apple will ( if repeat the "pro" card pricing Apple did with the Mac Pro 2013. ) . If the supply is limited AMD probably isn't going to want to cut into their own margins.
But is also illustrative of why having a standard PCI-e slot for a compute card would be useful. If Apple did the driver and Metal/OpenCL stack work to make it work seamlessly in macOS that would be the value add.
The Vega GPUs in the iMac Pro are choked down 100-200W from normal baselines. If can add that back with a larger, but hardly any more noisier cooling subsystem coupled to a twice as large power supply they would have differentiation. AMD's Perf/Watt probably isn't going to radically change with Vega20. I highly doubt it is going to be a free pass for them in competing with Nvidia. If Nvidia is off the books because they won't cooperate with Apple doing a custom "Pro" card then can't skimp on power. The iMac Pro does a good enough job, but for upper edge cases one of the primary things they need is simply a bigger power budget.
Vega GPU going to throw 20+ hour rendering work at and it stays "whisper quiet" would be differentiation.
A slot into which could through a Nvidia CUDA proprietary compute card into ... again that would be clear differentiation.
"splash worthy" isn't among Apple's primary problems with the Mac Pro.
1. Timely updates to Mac Pro configurations to track both tech changes and to show Apple's active engagement. In short, Apple needs to do something one regular basis. The new Mac Pro needs to support that for the amount of effort/resources Apple is going to assign it. "Incredible" splash every year or every two years was not the problem. No visible effort at all (let along splash) for 3-4 years is a problem.
I not sure how they think they can perpetrate some fraud that they have to super hard at work for 4 years doing something. They probably haven't been. Trying to fake they were isn't going to fool a substantial number of customers. More than few have already left. Apple needs to stop the bleed not blow alot of smoke.
2. What people who are holding out on Mac Pro 2008-2012s want isn't really exciting. Most want a place for the stuff they already bought. Either drives , GPU cards , audio or video capture cards, higher end networking card, etc. For some stuff Apple probably won't do ( 5.25" drives , firewire ) and some many not provision as much ( PCI-e slots , 2.5" drives , etc. ), but they need to do something along those lines. The people more than content to leave that stuff behind probably bought either a MP 2013 or an iMac Pro. That is not who is left still circling the airport.
Apple has this problem.... articles like this (and many threads on numerous tech discussion sites )
https://www.imore.com/retro-review-2009-mac-pro-2018
First, it is the overall trend that folks are staying on baseline systems longer. Apple isn't immune. They need a Mac Pro that can be bumped up over time. It isn't a specialized Vega this year and then hide in Rip Van Winkle mode for 2-3 years and then do another specialized. They need to iterate and also open some slight opening for other computational (not necessary boot display ) iteration.
The 2009 is on the vintage list. The 2012 is going onto the vintage list this year too. The need a path for folks to jump off. Once the officially supported macOS updates stop those folks will move to Windows (and its associated hardware) increasingly more often.
I haven't seen any details on thermals. For the public materials it looks like Radeon Vega Mobile GPU will be alot like the Vega that is attached to the Intel CPU in that package mash-up. Perhaps bigger HBMv2 stack ( 4 GB instead of perhaps 2GB. ) but same general range.
It should be an option for the MacBook Pro 15" if only because probably get some logic board space back with the single HBMv2 stack versus multiple GDDR5 chips.
I thnk some folks think you'll magically get a Vega into the MBP 13". That I'm not so sure about. There is really no "extra' board space now so "smaller footprint " GPU to replace a "bigger footprint" one isn't a tradeoff to make. Even a bigger CPU package (with the dGPU fused in ) has substantive doubt.[/QUOTE]
I'm so tired of having a bazillion peripherals plugged into my iMac. I really hope this nMP can actually house more hard drives. If it can't even do that, I'm probably jumping ship to another brand.
The "clean up the mac line up" event would more so be a one time event. I'm not talking about an annual event outside of WWDC. This is a more a real cleansing of fog of whether going to dump macOS or not ( Apple has consistently said not but relatively obvious that much of the tech press and tech speculation world is on a different page). Two set up some guidelines expectation of what the update rate will be. customers are replacing systems at slower rates. If Apple is going to 'dial back' update frequency in response a bit then communicate that .
The whole point of getting out of MacWorld was that were not slave to some relatively arbitrary calendar week for release. If something needed a bit more time to fix and get right to ship then do it. The yearly drumbeat of the iPhones made alot more sense when the phones were largely on 2 year contracts. Apple's "every September" event for the iPhone is going to start to fray badly in 2-4 years.
Macs are already at a much more market maturity level. The 'drama queen' mantra from some Mac users to have the same kind of "equal" dog and pony show as the iPhone gets to show that Apple really really cares is grossly fundamentally flawed. That's just irrational sibling rivalry stuff that really wouldn't be productive for the Mac product line as a whole.
Agreed, but let's face it - if Apple doesn't announce new iMacs and MacBooks / MacBook Pros at WWDC and instead waits until October, this board will be in flames because more than 12 months have passed since the last hardware update and folks will be triggered. But if they don't at least talk about the Mac Pro at WWDC, this board will be incandescent.
It wouldn't necessarily be Fall. There is zero good reason to "hold" completed Macs until October every single year. If it makes sense due to major component release dates to ship then OK. But to move all the Macs to a single month in the year is goofy. IHMO, putting the Mac Pro 3-4 after the OS release would help. In terms of crticial production deployment macOS 10.x.0-3 is usually a bust. It seems to take Apple 3-4 releases to get to something even close to rock stable ballpark.
I think if Apple fixed some of the other comatose Macs that it wouldn't be as critical as your are implying. People would grumble but some will wait ( partially because don't really want to buy anything anyway or looking for what Apple probably isn't going to sell ( a box that is oriented to being primarily a container for stuff. )
How dare you assume that person has a specific gender and isn't fluid ?
And why does your handle sound like the male pseudonym of a 19th century female novelist ?
My predictions for next week's Apple's Education Keynote:
- All New iPad Pro Mini with Pencil Support ~ 8" slim bezels
- Even Cheaper iPad 9.7
- Macbook Air Replacement
- Mac Pencil (to use on the magic touchpad)
- More Educational Swift stuff.
- Mac Pro? nope, no word, no cues yet.
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More hard drives than the current Mac Pro (and iMac Pro), probably hinges on whether giving up on the literal desktop constraint and going back to desk-side Mac Pro. if small enough for a desktop I suspect they'll stick to the "flash is the future" mantra with higher volume and reliability efficiency.
More hard drives than the regular iMac ( one ) is opened up with going to desk-side. If there is space for one, it seems likely there would be enough space for two ( two parallel sleds or two stacked ones ). With 10-14TB drives appearing now a limited of two gives bulk storage capacity of 20-28TB; which is covers a wide spectrum of workload use cases.
3-4 hard drive sleds is a bit questionable. One, Apple still hasn't finished APFS support for Fusion and Hard drives. Even on SSDs APFS is some cases slower than HFS+. Support for Apple RAID disk format is deprecated ( eventually won't boot). There is probably at least a small faction inside Apple that just wishes HDDs would disappear to make development costs easier. The four drives of the 2006-2012 models is largely to support RAID . 3 wide HDDs can't compete with single x4 PCI-e v3 SSDs in terms of speed or latency. The only upside is bulk capacity at better than single HDD speed. It is not 'fast' anymore. It is just 'not as slow as a single, relatively very slow drive.'
It won't be surprising if Apple provided multiple PCI-e SSDs slots (hopefully M.2) instead of SATA to support multiple drives cobbled by a flavor of RAID to present more capacity than a single drive of that type as the solution. ( it lines up with their "Flash is the future" mantra. And would likely be a further step forward in acknowledging that non Apple SSDs exists as suitable use options. trim-enable has a non default option suggests that myopic view of SSDs is still in place. )
1-2 HDD enables one HDD drive for internal system back-up (e.g. TimeMachine ) and one near-line archival, static storage (e.g., old completed projects that don't need working scratch space.). APFS doesn't pragmatically have all the roll back ease of use as TimeMachine has at the moment. Long term back-ups are highly dubious insides the same physical system being mirrored ( only incrementally better than RAID as 'back up"). The $/GB metrics for SSDs is still pretty bad for stuff users hardly ever look at. in short, Active stuff on SSD and 'old', inactive stuff on HDDs.
More hard drives than the 2006-2012 Mac Pro standard 4 drive sleds? quite highly unlikely. No optical drives extremely likely means no 'extra' SATA data/power cables floppy around inside anymore, nor the empty vacuum for 5.25" drives. Unlikely the new Mac Pro is going to be optimized to be a NAS node or a large DAS inside the box. The GUI-less server is unlikely to be a primary design constraint.
1-2 are really coupled to each other. One of the primary purposes of the iPad mini was to be a more affordable iPad. If Apple delivers a more affordable iPad then not really alot of need for a mini. iPad hasn't had three sizes. ( Pro two 12-10.5 , iPad two 8-9.7 ), but three seems to be a stretch beyond design resources Apple has allocated.
[ relative back to Mac Pro topic.... same issue why Apple wouldn't do 2-3 tower designs for different subsegments. From track record a stretch to get one tower-like design out the door. iMac Pro is a relatively small variation off the iMac to expand the line up. ]
If Apple put pencil support into the even cheaper (or some models of regular ) iPad even less support for a mini. ( Pro would be enhanced CPU/GPU , high gamut 120Hz screen, more speakers , etc. ); there is a still substantive stuff left to differentiate the "Pro" models.
[ relative back to Mac Pro topic..... Apple needs a Mac Pro entry price that is not exclusively higher than iMac Pro. ]
3. A rebirth of an iBook as an iOS based clamshell would make more sense versus the Chromebook onslaught.
( Apple shifting the iBooks app to just Books opens door to bringing iBook out of retirement. )
Apple still needs a $799-899 MBA replacement for primarily the mainstream market (not k-12 ), but that really isn't going to blunt Chromebook and Windows S damage that is being done. Intel's slide on 10nm Cannonlake Y and U solutions probably is why these won't be for sale after the keynote. Perhaps Apple will pre-signal these, but I wouldn't bet on it. ( it is basically a natural upgrade so announce when ready to ship. )
Something in the $399-699 range might be more competitive with the chromebook onslaught. Last year's (and largely paid for ) iPad Pro chip. spill/rugged keyboard. non supersize trackpad, kid-rugged enclosure that isn't super ultra thin, 10.5-12.9 sized screen.
I imagine though Apple will keep pushing the iPad as the solution, but I think that is missing the boat. The MBA is more of a post K-12 issue.
4. Trackpad decoupled from desktops doesn't make any sense.
5. Swift isn't the issue. Device (and app ) management is. Apple has some stuff but not as good as it needs to be to compete. ( appstore in-app payment deployment ,etc. ) Can't just be solely about programming classes in schools. That is a huge miss of education market bottleneck problems that need addressing.
Apple's model of pushing costs of iPads off to parents and personal devices is flawed idea. Devices with home managed app stacks is generally a bad idea. Access to social media during class typically doesn't work and Apple doesn't have a pragmatic solution for it.
If Apple gets up for 5-10+ mins rambling about Swift in the presentation then a wasted a trip to Lane Tech. Not enough Swift programmers is largely Apple's problem, not the student's primary problems. It would illustrative of just more selfish, decoupled from real work, Apple focus.
6. Mac Pro in K-12 school context doesn't have much weight at all.
The iPad mini was dead as soon as the iPhone Plus models became a thing and cannibalized most of its users. Apple hasn't bothered updating it because it offers nothing besides being the cheapest iPad.
Not really. A bigger bump would be a refreshed iPad Touch with similar bigger screen (plus mature/paid for processor) and current iPad Touch prices. The mini's have found a niche in some "business" areas as an inventory/checkout/walking around computer device that is easy to carry in one hand and have perhaps a stylus to ease checking off/writing stuff in the other hand. Usually in some kind of rugged case so that would survive being dropped and/or knocked around a bit. But of late the iPad itself dropping down to old mini prices and the mini moving up higher than the iPad that is the biggest problem.
iPhones are less rugged. The screens are smaller ( so have to scroll more through checklists , etc. ) and the cellular data really isn't a major issue in several of the use cases. Most folks were not buying at $800 device to replace at $300 one. Also another bigger factor is that 8" alternatives have dropped into the sub $200 range (e.g., Amazon does quite selling color screen tablet that works as media/ereader that is good enough for most folks) . The iPads also hit the wall earlier because they were largely never on 2 year contracts. You didn't need to buy a new on every 2-3 years.
As that mania fades from the iPhone it is seeing very similar issues.
I think you are kind of alluding the old market where folks bought an iPhone 4-5s and wanted bigger screen when came home and got an iPad (or mini) for the bigger screen. That was some boost to baseline mini market sales that got lost over time, but probably never was the underlying base volume driver. Frankly the even earlier uptick in Android phones going large would have just as big of an impact if phablet was the major driving issue.
It has some sense, but really you imagine Apple selling educational iBooks, I doubt. So, i consider more likely Apple's magical K-12 offer would be a mere 9.7" iPad with some rugged economical (no cheap) keyboard cover) all bundled for about 300$.
An ARM Macbook/iBook (either macOS/iOS) is another possibility but unlikely as its development will be very expensive compared to a simple Rugged Keyboard cover plus the cheap iPad 9.7.
The new Apple pencil on an entry level iPas unlikely to target the 9.7" ipad, it will canibalise the iPad Pro 10.5 sales,, while the iPad mini have been a DieHard device for Apple, providing it PRO features will be smarter than to the old 9.7" model, but it will never be as cheap as the outgoing iPad mini neither the basic 9.7 iPad.
Do you ever tried to sign a PDF form on the Magic Touchpad? even with an stylus its an horrible experince, to me make sense to enable the Apple Pencil on the Mac, not just to sign, also for precise CAD/Drafting will be an convenient alternative to dedicated Digitizer (also cheaper)
Right
An Sneak Peek for the mMP will be something natural at an NAB scenario, at K-12 context, the best we could expect is an new Mac Mini w/o too much fanfare.
Touchscreen laptops are a thing the market has spoken on, and Apple is on the wrong side of history on this one. Sure, touch on screen is probably inappropriate for a desktop computer, but Apple’s problem, is refusing to acknowledge that a laptop is a fundamentally different device to a desktop, and there’s no reason for it to be bound to the same interaction constraints.
The market hasn't spoken on it as Apple continues to sell non-touchscreen laptops that sell well. That PC makers who are hemorrhaging sales throw touchscreens into everything doesn't really prove much.
I don't think Apple's closed the door on a laptop form factor or a convertible with a touch screen (I mean, that's basically what the smart keyboard does. It's just a matter of whether or not they bundle it in or more tightly engineer them together.) They *have* closed the door on that product being MacOS-driven. I'd say that's the right call. If the future of (mass) computing is tablets and mobile devices as Apple guesses it is, that leaves the Mac better equipped to handle the edge cases like the people here who want a flexible pro Macintosh, not cursing that they've made buttons ginormous so people can hit touch targets.
No one who wants to do any serious work with a pen is going to want to use the comparatively tiny space of a touchpad to do it. Hell, trying to learn on such a small surface would be a detriment to your skills progression. It'd be funny in that I imagine Apple could do a better tiny drawing tablet than Wacom can, but aside from niche use cases like signing a PDF form, I struggle to see what people are getting out of the added expense.
There are at present at least 10 Ipad apps that turn your Ipad into a graphics tablet. I have not tried them yet but think I may. For the price it is certainly worth a go See link.
https://creativemarket.com/blog/10-apps-to-turn-your-ipad-into-a-bad-ass-drawing-tablet
Over the years I have used 2 old school graphics tablets. One I purchased, a second the office purchased. Neither I or any of the others designers in the office ever liked the seperation of drawing on the tablet and trying to match the screen. The new Wacom fixed that problem but none of us were willing to ask the office manager to invest in the new tech. They disapeared into storage.
It is unlikely I would find the Ipad tablet app useful for CAD work. The CAD software has so many menues and pulldowns that I would never be able to see them on my 12” ipad. Skeching, freehand drawing and photoshop retouching YES.
In any case the Ipad and apps are getting more powerful every month that the MacPadTop and Ipad should merge. I use my Ipad so much now I forget and touch the mac screen and nothing happens. DUH it’s just more natural then the mouse. What’s a mouse?
https://creativemarket.com/blog/10-apps-to-turn-your-ipad-into-a-bad-ass-drawing-tablet
Over the years I have used 2 old school graphics tablets. One I purchased, a second the office purchased. Neither I or any of the others designers in the office ever liked the seperation of drawing on the tablet and trying to match the screen. The new Wacom fixed that problem but none of us were willing to ask the office manager to invest in the new tech. They disapeared into storage.
It is unlikely I would find the Ipad tablet app useful for CAD work. The CAD software has so many menues and pulldowns that I would never be able to see them on my 12” ipad. Skeching, freehand drawing and photoshop retouching YES.
In any case the Ipad and apps are getting more powerful every month that the MacPadTop and Ipad should merge. I use my Ipad so much now I forget and touch the mac screen and nothing happens. DUH it’s just more natural then the mouse. What’s a mouse?