Im not so sure. I don't see how you can possibly power 72EU's and two full cores with 28TDP. Seems like the silicon would just be throttled back at all times due to thermal limiting.
Ofcourse, I wouldn't say no to it either.
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Im not so sure. I don't see how you can possibly power 72EU's and two full cores with 28TDP. Seems like the silicon would just be throttled back at all times due to thermal limiting.
Ofcourse, I wouldn't say no to it either.
Feels like a long wait. As a video editor/motion graphics artist that uses my 2012 Retina MBP a tonne, this is basically my wish list:
• Skylake
• Slightly larger screen (less bevel) - I'd love a 17 inch screen but I don't think that will ever happen again.
• Longer Battery Life
• USB-C
• Upgradable to 32 GB RAM. This is something I don't really hear about, but I'd LOVE to get some extra RAM in this thing. I don't mind paying a premium for this.
• Faster processor
• Better Graphics card
• Maintaining extra ports. This is one that has me a little concerned. I get why Apple wants to reduce the amount of ports, but there are often times where I'm working on a train with 2 TB drives and two USB-3 drives all plugged in at once, and using all four at once. It would stink to lose that ability. Having dongles on hand all the time is annoying. That being said, I thought I'd be using my Ethernet/Firewire 800 dongles (as well as my DVD drive) more than I did, but they were still crucial to have. As a travelling person who is self-employed, there were so many extra parts I couldn't leave the house without, and my thin computer became pretty bulky with all those dongles and drives in the bag.
Most other things (lighter/thinner, colours, etc) all are fine but I don't really care. MacBooks are already thin and awesome looking.
• Skylake
• Slightly larger screen (less bevel) - I'd love a 17 inch screen but I don't think that will ever happen again.
• Longer Battery Life
• USB-C
• Upgradable to 32 GB RAM. This is something I don't really hear about, but I'd LOVE to get some extra RAM in this thing. I don't mind paying a premium for this.
• Faster processor
• Better Graphics card
• Maintaining extra ports. This is one that has me a little concerned. I get why Apple wants to reduce the amount of ports, but there are often times where I'm working on a train with 2 TB drives and two USB-3 drives all plugged in at once, and using all four at once. It would stink to lose that ability. Having dongles on hand all the time is annoying. That being said, I thought I'd be using my Ethernet/Firewire 800 dongles (as well as my DVD drive) more than I did, but they were still crucial to have. As a travelling person who is self-employed, there were so many extra parts I couldn't leave the house without, and my thin computer became pretty bulky with all those dongles and drives in the bag.
Most other things (lighter/thinner, colours, etc) all are fine but I don't really care. MacBooks are already thin and awesome looking.
Agree with a lot of that.
32 GB Ram is a good bet, both the Dell XPS 15 and Lenovo P range will have 32GB come January...( well 64 GB for the Lenovo)
Can easily see more pixels on screen/smaller bezel...the ports thing I do worry about...GPU/Processor incremental upgrades I guess...
Still holding out for Jan...but looking more like March...going to be tough holding till then!
I hope that is true, especially smaller bezel part. That would make it so much better. Hopefully the same footprint with bigger screen.
If he's never ever been right were screwed because if he's wrong on all these points - no redesign, no usb-c, no SD card slot, same size screen bezel, mag safe gone, no skylake w/ iris pro, no march release, probably September 2017... WERE DOOMED, I TELL YOU, DOOMED!
At least we will have the glowing Apple, but no colors Yes, I expect that if there's a 28W part with Iris Pro 580, it will clock the iGPU slower than the corresponding 45W quad core part for the 15" . Iris Pro 580 is a substantial performance boost from Iris 550, and while I don't have either data related to die real estate needed for the Iris Pro or performance relative to the Iris 550 at a slower clock, if such a 28W part is available, it would be quite a compelling option for the 13" MBP.
Keep magsafe and replace TB ports with USB-C, no problem there. Magnetic connector is awesome and distinguishes the charging system from all other laptops. Slick, easy to use and save against cable trip.
I figured I'd ask on here since I was waiting to upgrade to Skylake to upgrade my '08 MBP...
I am a college student who has been my brother's old late 2008 15 inch MBP for years now. My father was going to get me a new MBP as a graduation present / birthday present / christmas present (hey, it counts for all three alright!) this upcoming year so I decided to use my money to upgrade my late '08 with a new SSD drive and memory. Unfortunately, my MBP ended up dying on me over Christmas break, and now I have no computer. I took it in to various repair shops (Apple included) and they said it is the logic board and replacing it is basically like buying a new computer. So I am not sure what to do since I wanted to wait for Skylake. My dad says I can get my new MBP (retina 15 inch most likely) anytime this year, but I am not sure if I should bite the bullet and get one this upcoming week or wait a few weeks (or months?).
There appears to be a computer shop that will replace the logic board but it will be at least $250 - $300. So I was thinking of maybe repairing it and then waiting for Skylake? But do you think there will be a big difference between the current and latest 15 inch retina MBP and the Skylake version that is worth using only an iPad for?
Also, I see a lot of people saying on here (at least I think that is what I see) that the 2014 version appears to be faster/better. So is buying a 2014 15 inch retina a better bet? Also, is the 13 inch retina a better bet considering it has a newer processor?
I am a college student who has been my brother's old late 2008 15 inch MBP for years now. My father was going to get me a new MBP as a graduation present / birthday present / christmas present (hey, it counts for all three alright!) this upcoming year so I decided to use my money to upgrade my late '08 with a new SSD drive and memory. Unfortunately, my MBP ended up dying on me over Christmas break, and now I have no computer. I took it in to various repair shops (Apple included) and they said it is the logic board and replacing it is basically like buying a new computer. So I am not sure what to do since I wanted to wait for Skylake. My dad says I can get my new MBP (retina 15 inch most likely) anytime this year, but I am not sure if I should bite the bullet and get one this upcoming week or wait a few weeks (or months?).
There appears to be a computer shop that will replace the logic board but it will be at least $250 - $300. So I was thinking of maybe repairing it and then waiting for Skylake? But do you think there will be a big difference between the current and latest 15 inch retina MBP and the Skylake version that is worth using only an iPad for?
Also, I see a lot of people saying on here (at least I think that is what I see) that the 2014 version appears to be faster/better. So is buying a 2014 15 inch retina a better bet? Also, is the 13 inch retina a better bet considering it has a newer processor?
More substance, less sauce.
If you can wait, wait. Otherwise the 2015 is lot faster then the dinosaur you have.
Try to find if and how much you can get back if you sell your computer repaired. I had a similar situation but for me it was on the $800s range the repair for a 13" mid-2012, it was a no-go. If shelling out $300 can allow you to wait and the sell it back for, let's say $200, then it's not that bad. If you can't sell but somebody could benefit from that computer and you feel inclined too then that's also a plus (parents, siblings, cousins, etc that might have an use for it)
When the time to buy comes try to:
- use student discounts (you are one)
- tax free stores
- credit cards that give you instant 5% on purchases (have heard about some Discovery cards here, but have no clue how to have one, I'm in Canada. Could somebody shine in on these deals?)
Then again, you might pay for a wait that might last quite long too, although unlikely (wishful thinking)
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Finally! 2016 is over! We got our Apple TV. We got our Apple Watch... We got a bunch of other crap... now... give us the MacBook Pros! I took a large chunk of my last paycheck of 2015, set it aside, and I'm ready for Apple to take my money as soon as they deliver the goods .
.A screen monitor can last many years, while graphics card some upgrade it every once or every couple of years. Others will want to go all-in with SLI dual card rigs. All of this could make the screen unnecessarily thicker also.That'd be so cool!
Skylake TB3 makes laptop 'eGPU ready' (TB2 and TB1 were also eGPU ready actually), what we need is better eGPU cases/PSU options and proper operating system support. Currently is mostly DIY or custom brand solutions for specific laptop categories (as far as I see).
As long as it's in a slot and you can swap them in and out and overall nothing got compromised, then I might be okay with that. Could have a 'slot' for connecting and supplying power to a range of mid to high(lower power) graphics cards, however, it could mean 'for mac/apple certified' tags with price premiums and others.
Finally! 2016 is over! We got our Apple TV. We got our Apple Watch... We got a bunch of other crap... now... give us the MacBook Pros! I took a large chunk of my last paycheck of 2015, set it aside, and I'm ready for Apple to take my money as soon as they deliver the goods
You said it ma friend!
9-to-5 Mac thoughts on new updates. We already know most of this but its another hat in the ring:
indeed, it will.
the integrated chip is transparent to the user and only responsible to drive the crazy resolution for devices that can't do it themselves. it won't have performance-accelerating purposes.
How would that work? When you mean devices, you mean TB ready devices that could connect to that integrated GPU so that everything graphics related happens there, i.e. all TB enabled Macs. But then if it is 5K it would need TB3 level bandwidths, so only the hopefully soon to be released MacBooks.
Why thicker? An iMac is just as thick and houses an entire computer... If Apple somehow replaced the RAM hatch with a MXM type of GPU card, albeit with integrated cooling, that would be cool but bot like Apple. A fixed solution with a m390 or m395(x as option) sounds more likely to me.
This coupled with an Iris 580 would mean light gaming on the go and decent at home.
I was referring if leaving potential for higher-end SLI options... but you are right, an iMac houses an entire computer, it could very well house a GPU.
I would rather an option for an external graphics adapter be separate from the screen. I don't really want a 5k screen at some ludicrous price point, but I would consider an eGPU box. Though this wouldn't be at all 'Apple-like'.
This list actually doesn't sound too far fetched at all. In fact most of this seems almost inevitable based on Apple's history:
- Redesign: Apple usually redesigns the MacBooks every 4 years anyways. Using the current style but thinner sounds pretty reasonable. The question is how much thinner. If Apple concentrates too much on thin and light, we will loose batter life and power.
- Colors: Adding the same color choices as the Macbook also sounds pretty realistic. I know I am certainly looking forward to having choices beyond just silver.
- No Glowing Logo: This also sounds pretty realistic, especially seeing that they removed it from the Macbook.
- Smaller Bezel: I certainly hope so! The Dell XPS has shown what a modern laptop should look like. Now we have to wonder if Apple will squeeze a little more screen real estate into the existing bezels or will they keep the same screen sizes and just reduce the bezel size? I for one am hoping Apple slightly bumps up the screens to 14" and 16". It would also be nice to see Apple bump the color gamut up to DCI-P3 (as they have already done with the iMac's.
- New Keyboard: This is also realistic considering they are using a new keyboard design on the Macbook and the new wireless keyboards for the iMac and Mac Pro. This will also give them room to make the case a little thinner. Hopefully it has more travel than the Macbook's super shallow keyboard.
Magsafe Charging: This one seems a little iffy... On one hand, Apple can just use USB-C for charging. On the other hand, having a dedicated charge port that can charge the battery quickly without taking up a USB-C port sounds nicer.
SD Card Slot: I can definitely see Apple keeping the SD slot. The MBP is used by many professional photographers so having the built in SD slot is definitely a luxury for them.
USB-C: This is inevitable. Its already on the Macbook so there is nothing stopping it from coming to the Pro series. Apple may want to use TB3 instead (uses the same port as USB-C). The real question is what will USB-C replace? If I had my way, USB-C would only replace the TB2 ports. This way we could have USB-C without having to give up the other ports (and be forced to travel with adapters to get back the functionality we lost). Hopefully Apple doesn't go the way of the Macbook and make USB-C the only port option.
Skylake chips: This is just common sense. Hopefully the new Iris graphics will be good enough to handle a modern day game at low-mid settings and 30fps.
Release in March: I certainly hope so! They have released new MacBooks in March in the past so its reasonable to expect them to do the same this year.
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