Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[WRONG]

This could be the most accurate prediction posted in the thread so far. 😉

You're forgetting the prototypes prediction of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named...
😀

Anyway, are we seriously discussing again about what iGPU/Processor is the MBP going to use?! 😵
What page is it, 200?

 

[youdontsay]

It's almost impossible to have a waterproof macbook pro due to the machine requiring proper ventilation. Fans need to constantly cool the CPU and other components so the machine won't overheat. In order to properly water proof you'll need to get rid of the fan (intake/outtake) vents. That would require seriously reducing the power of the CPU and other components and would dramatically make the machine less productive.

It's possible to waterproof an iPhone or Apple Watch because they don't produce as much heat and don't require fans to cool them down.

Indeed, good point 🙂

 

[rentmjol]

Anyway, are we seriously discussing again about what iGPU/Processor is the MBP going to use?! 😵😀
What page is it, 200?

Agreed, this should be common knowledge for people who haven't even visited this thread!

 

[waaaas]

People should only consider the dGPU if they need to do proper gaming or really GPU intensive work, not just some 4K editing or minor encoding etc - which even can be done on a 12" retina Macbook (Albeit slower). To get a dGPU so these things are slightly faster, is not worth the downsides that a dGPU has (and it has many).

So at all costs, waiting a few more seconds rendering/encoding/medium settings on game on an iGPU is the way to go unless you are doing some really high volume level of gpu intensive tasks/graphics demanding gaming on a regular basis.

Even for proper gaming I wouldn't consider the dgpu . For proper gaming there is only the option with (igpu/dgpu) + egpu. Sure this is not the case for someone who plays only undemanding games. But for me its igpu + egpu , because I may need the graphic power only at home where my egpu is 😀 Sounds a bit naive but its the better deal I guess.

 

[MacBH928]

So at all costs, waiting a few more seconds rendering/encoding/medium settings on game on an iGPU is the way to go unless you are doing some really high volume level of gpu intensive tasks/graphics demanding gaming on a regular basis.

are you saying the dGPU is only slightly faster than IrisPro? I am not sure that is right
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Ok, so most of you guys seem like you've worked with Macs before on a consistent basis. I haven't.

What's some key things I should do once I get my first MacBook Pro? Like, protection-wise, both physically and on the actual OS. Any helpful transition guides from Windows to Mac? Any shortcuts, applications, programs, that are essential to being productive and efficient on macOS?

Carbon Copy Cloner. You buy external drive, you use CCC, now if anything happens to your macbook you have a bootable external drive. I like Alfred too but not sure if the newer Spotlight replaces it

 

[kingston1987]

Use boot camp, it's the best. Since windows is free, boot camp is free. It means you partition your hard drive and install windows natively on it. There's a guide that does this for you installed on every mac, don't worry.

So I have a copy of parallel 10 or something that I got from BH Photos awhile ago free as part of a purchase of I forgot what. Should I install boot camp on the macbook instead of this? Is bootcamp better?

 

[md7]

So it is the Intel Iris Pro 580, is that supposed to be good ? Bad ? For Daily Chores ?

It's the best iGPU from Intel at the moment. Maybe Intel Iris Pro P580 is marginally better, but not much. So it will probably be able to handle all your daily chores, depending what you mean with daily chores of course. Playing games at highest resolution and at ultra settings will probably not be a good idea.

 

[maflynn]

So I have a copy of parallel 10 or something that I got from BH Photos awhile ago free as part of a purchase of I forgot what. Should I install boot camp on the macbook instead of this? Is bootcamp better?

Bootcamp provides the best performance, as windows has direct access to the hardware, but you need to leave OS X. If your needs are such that you need only one app or don't want to leave OS X. Then virtualization is a better choice.

 

[prashcr]

I have a feeling people won't notice a meaningful difference between iGPU and dGPU for most of those tasks you listed, the Iris Pro 580 is pretty powerful. dGPu if anything could cause unwanted issues, slowdowns, crashes and what not. To be honest, I am just not really for AMD GPU's in general, if they had like GTX 1050, I would be much more willing to support the dGPU model. But not for an AMD card, especially one similar to RX 460 - I just predict people will complain about all sorts of issues.

Would be happy to be wrong.

I would be happy to get an iGPU 512GB mbp but I get a dgpu + better CPU for $60 more so it seems pointless to skip the GPU.

 

[dazza8402]

Hi all, long time lurker on here - first time poster. I've always had windows laptops but over the years I've slowly integrated myself into the Apple world - iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs etc. Been waiting for the next version of the MacBook Pro for what seems a lifetime and will be finally making the jump from Windows to Mac once the new Pros are released.

I'm currently running a 2010 Win 7 Dell with a 2.00GHZ quad core processor and 6GB ram. I mainly use it for running iTunes, downloading media and ripping them through HandBrake so I can put my films into iTunes. Obviously my Dell is slow as **** now at performing the video encoding tasks.

What spec MacBook Pro would you recommend? I want it to perform the above tasks with ease and also future proof it as much as possible as I want to keep the mac for 4-5yrs.

Cheers

 

[Arthur75]

I'm probably going with the base model iGPU, despite the tradeoffs in performance. I want the most quiet and reliable laptop possible.

I am also sitting on the fence regarding iGPU vs dGPU, but now quite decided on the 15" (hoping it will be sensibly lighter than the current one).
And also leaning towards iGPU, to minimize heat/fan noise and potential additional issues.

 

[prashcr]

While waterproofing is impractical, spill proofing would be nice and a lot of lenovos come with it. But that would take up space from the battery and make the laptop thicker.

I am also sitting on the fence regarding iGPU vs dGPU, but now quite decided on the 15" (hoping it will be sensibly lighter than the current one).
And also leaning towards iGPU, to minimize heat/fan noise and potential additional issues.

There's an app that lets you override the graphics switching and disable/enable gou when you need it so I don't think it should be too much of an issue

 

[MarcBou]

Even for proper gaming I wouldn't consider the dgpu . For proper gaming there is only the option with (igpu/dgpu) + egpu. Sure this is not the case for someone who plays only undemanding games. But for me its igpu + egpu , because I may need the graphic power only at home where my egpu is 😀 Sounds a bit naive but its the better deal I guess.

But really, what's the problem with the dGPU? It just seems weird that has so manny problems like people say and they dont solve them. Also there is a problem, in Apple's website if I pick the dGPU MBP it costs 2799€, but if I pick the iGPU MBP and chose the same specs of the other one (512GB RAM and 2,5GHZ CPU) it costs 2729€. So I'm paying almost the same but don't get dGPU?? Makes no sense.

 

[3JL]

But really, what's the problem with the dGPU? It just seems weird that has so manny porblems like people say and they dont solve them. Also there is a problem, in Apple's website if I pick the dGPU MBP it costs 2799€, but if I pick the iGPU MBP and chose the same specs of the other one (512GB RAM and 2,5GHZ CPU) it costs 2729€. So I'm paying almost the same but don't get dGPU?? Makes no sense.

@MarcBou, I was doing the same calculation, coming to the same conclusion. For me it is either iGPU+dGPU or iGPU+eGPU. In this light the price difference is crazy, so I am opting for dGPU!

 

[augustya]

It's the best iGPU from Intel at the moment. Maybe Intel Iris Pro P580 is marginally better, but not much. So it will probably be able to handle all your daily chores, depending what you mean with daily chores of course. Playing games at highest resolution and at ultra settings will probably not be a good idea.

With daily chores I mean maybe using a Music Mixing APP, A Video editor APP. not so much of high end gaming, but I am sure certain old games will be able to run right, at normal settings.

 

[benutzername]

Just keep fingers crossed they introduce 512GB as the 15" base model for an adequate price.

I'd like the idea of 32GB of RAM at 15", but don't really want a dGPU. I do lots of photo editing with Adobe Photoshop/Camera RAW and some layout with InDesign. In the moment, I use (and love) my 13" late '13 with i5, 8GB/256GB. That little ****er is still in best condition and its speed is okay for me. Will the upgrade from 16GB standard to 32GB worth 500€ for me?

 

[efegue]

I think we should make a club out of the participants of this thread. Don't let it die! 😀

 

[maflynn]

Just keep fingers crossed they introduce 512GB as the 15" base model for an adequate price.

I could be wrong (I know I am quite often), but I don't see the 512GB being stock

 

[Quasselstripper]

We're almost there, just one more week…

 

[waaaas]

But really, what's the problem with the dGPU? It just seems weird that has so manny problems like people say and they dont solve them. Also there is a problem, in Apple's website if I pick the dGPU MBP it costs 2799€, but if I pick the iGPU MBP and chose the same specs of the other one (512GB RAM and 2,5GHZ CPU) it costs 2729€. So I'm paying almost the same but don't get dGPU?? Makes no sense.

Well I thought it was significantly cheaper , but it isn't . Your point 😀 But you have to keep in mind that the igpu version much cooler and maybe a bit more quiet is , due to another fan

 

[prashcr]

But really, what's the problem with the dGPU? It just seems weird that has so manny problems like people say and they dont solve them. Also there is a problem, in Apple's website if I pick the dGPU MBP it costs 2799€, but if I pick the iGPU MBP and chose the same specs of the other one (512GB RAM and 2,5GHZ CPU) it costs 2729€. So I'm paying almost the same but don't get dGPU?? Makes no sense.

From their perspective, they want to encourage prebuilt models by making BTO more expensive.

 

[geachy92]

Hi all, long time lurker on here - first time poster. I've always had windows laptops but over the years I've slowly integrated myself into the Apple world - iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs etc. Been waiting for the next version of the MacBook Pro for what seems a lifetime and will be finally making the jump from Windows to Mac once the new Pros are released.

I'm currently running a 2010 Win 7 Dell with a 2.00GHZ quad core processor and 6GB ram. I mainly use it for running iTunes, downloading media and ripping them through HandBrake so I can put my films into iTunes. Obviously my Dell is slow as **** now at performing the video encoding tasks.

What spec MacBook Pro would you recommend? I want it to perform the above tasks with ease and also future proof it as much as possible as I want to keep the mac for 4-5yrs.

Cheers

Even the 2016 rMB (the thin one with no fan) I tried out in May could do Handbrake encodes up to 4 times quicker than my 2010 MBP.

I don't know how quickly you want Handbrake to run but the 13" will be more than capable and if you're going for a 15" it'll be an absolute breeze.

 

[Uni Grad]

Bootcamp provides the best performance, as windows has direct access to the hardware, but you need to leave OS X. If your needs are such that you need only one app or don't want to leave OS X. Then virtualization is a better choice.

I also agree that 512 GB seems a bit too much, but given that its 2016 and its being called a "pro" machine, the base should be 512GB considering the current 15 inch is already at 256 GB. The base 13" should at least start off at 16GB RAM, and should go up to 32 GB. Keep the rest of the MacBooks at 8GB and 16 GB.

 

[MarcBou]

From their perspective, they want to encourage prebuilt models by making BTO more expensive.

But the dGPU comes in the prebuilt model

 

[melchior]

I could be wrong (I know I am quite often), but I don't see the 512GB being stock

Yup

I also agree that 512 GB seems a bit too much, but given that its 2016 and its being called a "pro" machine, the base should be 512GB considering the current 15 inch is already at 256 GB. The base 13" should at least start off at 16GB RAM, and should go up to 32 GB. Keep the rest of the MacBooks at 8GB and 16 GB.

Such optimism. Pro hasn't meant Pro for a decade.